atom_boy
Bluelighter
its my opinion that there is nothing that works well to cover the taste of cactus, somethings work better than others but i wouldnt really classify them as working well.
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Peruvian Torch powder - Has anyone ingested it this way?
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Trichocereus Panza
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^how long does that last? I was thinking of something similar... I'm not sure what to use yet, but something that will make my tongue feel like it's coated in wax for a while, as I stealthily chug some syrup.
I recently ordered 1 kilo of Peruvian Torch incense. Using this as the starting material-can someone recommend the best way to go wrt extracting the alkaloids?
I'm pretty much a novice at this and would appreciate some advice from someone who has experience here.
I appreciate any help/insight you have to offer. Thanks
I'm pretty much a novice at this and would appreciate some advice from someone who has experience here.
I appreciate any help/insight you have to offer. Thanks
atom_boy
Bluelighter
look up on the net about an acid base extraction, there is some great info in the nook archives.
atom_boy
Bluelighter
VertexShader said:
possibly some sort of pesticide/fungicide in the cactus that didnt agree with you
Voodoochild870
Bluelighter
Damn, I still haven't gotten around to doing this yet. 
renzokata
Greenlighter
aight guys, i've taken peruvian torch from 40-to 90 grams and i know how to get the best out of it unless you are chemist, cuz thats a lot of complicated stuff. this is what i do to get the best quality trip i can, though it takes time. a couple hours. get a big pot and a t-shirt that is clean that u dont plan on ever using again. dont boil the water, let it simmer, slowly. add a little lemon juice to aid in the extraction(it also lowers the ph on it, so its not so alkaline(part of why it tastes so bad). it's still gonna taste bad, but it's gonna be a little more sour and in my opinion, easier to down though. now after doing this so many times, i've clearly came to the conclusion that the quality of the trip and energy of it, will depend a lot on the personality of the person who makes it. if you burn it, it's gonna affect the feeling of the trip, even if you get a strong dose. for one person. i take 50 grams dried and put it in the t-shirt, then i tie it together and make a HUGE TEABAG. let the water simmer down, while your continously dip the ur giant t-bag in and squeeze and keep doing it, adding more water if you have to. when you have done this a good amount. take a seperate pot, preferably stainless steel, u wanna see the water crystal clear. keep dunking and squeezing until the water doesnt change color anymore. now very carefully simmer all this down to a good amount you will feel most comfortable downing, without burning it. its very important you dont burn it. you will have an amber/brownish, very thick tea left over that is the texture and color of maple syrup. i've gotten it down to enough to just fill a shot-glass. the trip comes on faster and more powerfully, it also leaves your body faster. which is exactly what your looking for. i personally, absolutely hate waiting for the effects to wear off so i can get some good quality sleep. the lingering body-feeling isn't exactly pleasant either. and as a remedy for that, i smoke weed. it's a really good mix actually. you can do this with large amounts and sell the shots 30-35 a piece, skeptics u might wanna give a discount to. but once people realize that it is legit, they will pay for it. i made mescaline pretty popular around here, where the only tripping people know about its mdma and shrooms. people are always asking me about it. i really need to order more.
in case those are wondering, putting it in capsules is probably the worst way to experiance this plant. it really makes you feel sick to your stomach. and of course you have to wait forever and i really dont think our digestive system is strong enough to give us the whole trip at once, instead we get a low quality-sick feeling, trip, that lasts forever. i had a really bad day because of trying this method. i dont reccomend it.
you can, if you dont wanna wait, just mix a little water, and eat spoonfulls of it. this is what i've mostly done, mainly because im lazy and wanna get the show on the road. you'll get a big bowl of it and it's gonna be a job getting it down. doing this to me, gives you the oppertunity to feel the plant inside of you, in more of a spiritual way. if you wanna cover up the taste, then chocolate pudding will be your best friend. coat your tongue with it and keep shoving giagantic spoonfulls in your mouth and swallowing them(like a pill). do it real quick so you dont have to taste it, its not good feeling having it sit in your mouth either. take a cigg/weed smoke break if you must. when the upset stomach kicks in, you know its working. from then it will start slowly and before you know it, the time it took from eating it, to comming up, will be lost in a spectacular trip. "how long ago did we eat it? was it 10? i dunno, im tripping my ass off!". it kinda just hits you but you can't really ever tell when you started to peak-it's like trying to know the exact time you fell asleep last night.
you can mix it with an maoi. i've done it with peg harmala(a weak maoi) and had a very colorful trip. it was more like a tradional peyote trip, like the kind you see in huichol artwork. most of my mescaline trips aren't very colorful like the mushroom, but are very sharp. i've seen snakes with eyes for scales(snakes made of eyes), i've watched my ceiling turn into a gateway into another world. tripping outside is the best though. tripping on the beach and just looking at the hallucinations the sand produced reminded me of the many trips natives have taken in the desert and what it must have been like for them. go to your park and watch nature become alive. it's beautiful and it will teach you a lot. theres a lot nature has to teach us. but with the maoi, the visuals were different, flashes of just color, lasers of light in my room, bursts, and flashes of colourful mosiac jewels behind my lids.
i use mescaline for spiritual means. i dont need it anymore to see but it's a boost in anyones perception, even for very wise ones. what is more important that the visual quality of mescaline is the emotional quality. if you interact with others who are sober on mescaline, its very easy for me, to see the person for who they are, break down the barrier, and show them love and compassion. i've taught many sober companions the teachings of life right as i was learning them. all the ego games, suffering, victimization, the crucial circle of life and death, goes right out there door. the temptation that we find so much difficulty avoiding, becomes a nonsense. something to laugh at. the stupid little ego games people clutch to that prevents us from loving and having true confidence in oneself. and you'll be suprised. it's not the mescaline that will change you. it's totally up to you. mescaline is only a tool to teach you. and if you are really into psychic awareness and meditation, then i could not reccomend a few people stop on their job they call life and have an "employment evaluation". i myself, being a psychic find that the mescaline makes it easier for me to use that. it's not a conciousness i raise, it kinda just comes with the trip to me rather i want it to or not. it's not really any fun getting trapped out in oceanview(the hood) and have to listen to the disgusting garbage crackheads, hustlers, and 5th view "tough guys" carry around while waiting for a broken down bus to take me back to virginia beach. so just understand, its not the mescaline, it's you. the mescaline will only teach you. i hope all this information is useful to spiritualist and psychonauts alike and to those who consider themselves both. i know i do. i wish nothing but best for you all on your journey through life.
in case those are wondering, putting it in capsules is probably the worst way to experiance this plant. it really makes you feel sick to your stomach. and of course you have to wait forever and i really dont think our digestive system is strong enough to give us the whole trip at once, instead we get a low quality-sick feeling, trip, that lasts forever. i had a really bad day because of trying this method. i dont reccomend it.
you can, if you dont wanna wait, just mix a little water, and eat spoonfulls of it. this is what i've mostly done, mainly because im lazy and wanna get the show on the road. you'll get a big bowl of it and it's gonna be a job getting it down. doing this to me, gives you the oppertunity to feel the plant inside of you, in more of a spiritual way. if you wanna cover up the taste, then chocolate pudding will be your best friend. coat your tongue with it and keep shoving giagantic spoonfulls in your mouth and swallowing them(like a pill). do it real quick so you dont have to taste it, its not good feeling having it sit in your mouth either. take a cigg/weed smoke break if you must. when the upset stomach kicks in, you know its working. from then it will start slowly and before you know it, the time it took from eating it, to comming up, will be lost in a spectacular trip. "how long ago did we eat it? was it 10? i dunno, im tripping my ass off!". it kinda just hits you but you can't really ever tell when you started to peak-it's like trying to know the exact time you fell asleep last night.
you can mix it with an maoi. i've done it with peg harmala(a weak maoi) and had a very colorful trip. it was more like a tradional peyote trip, like the kind you see in huichol artwork. most of my mescaline trips aren't very colorful like the mushroom, but are very sharp. i've seen snakes with eyes for scales(snakes made of eyes), i've watched my ceiling turn into a gateway into another world. tripping outside is the best though. tripping on the beach and just looking at the hallucinations the sand produced reminded me of the many trips natives have taken in the desert and what it must have been like for them. go to your park and watch nature become alive. it's beautiful and it will teach you a lot. theres a lot nature has to teach us. but with the maoi, the visuals were different, flashes of just color, lasers of light in my room, bursts, and flashes of colourful mosiac jewels behind my lids.
i use mescaline for spiritual means. i dont need it anymore to see but it's a boost in anyones perception, even for very wise ones. what is more important that the visual quality of mescaline is the emotional quality. if you interact with others who are sober on mescaline, its very easy for me, to see the person for who they are, break down the barrier, and show them love and compassion. i've taught many sober companions the teachings of life right as i was learning them. all the ego games, suffering, victimization, the crucial circle of life and death, goes right out there door. the temptation that we find so much difficulty avoiding, becomes a nonsense. something to laugh at. the stupid little ego games people clutch to that prevents us from loving and having true confidence in oneself. and you'll be suprised. it's not the mescaline that will change you. it's totally up to you. mescaline is only a tool to teach you. and if you are really into psychic awareness and meditation, then i could not reccomend a few people stop on their job they call life and have an "employment evaluation". i myself, being a psychic find that the mescaline makes it easier for me to use that. it's not a conciousness i raise, it kinda just comes with the trip to me rather i want it to or not. it's not really any fun getting trapped out in oceanview(the hood) and have to listen to the disgusting garbage crackheads, hustlers, and 5th view "tough guys" carry around while waiting for a broken down bus to take me back to virginia beach. so just understand, its not the mescaline, it's you. the mescaline will only teach you. i hope all this information is useful to spiritualist and psychonauts alike and to those who consider themselves both. i know i do. i wish nothing but best for you all on your journey through life.
Tunnelfission
Bluelighter
I personally have tried peruvian torch powder, I really enjoy the experiences overall.
I grind up the dried skins in a coffee grinder, a few at a time and get my whole amount into a bowl, a bowl of dried cactus powder then capsule them off by hand... dont care if theyre to tight because it always ends up being alot of capsules to stomach anyways... i personally ate 38 capsules my first time.
I threw up the 2nd and 3rd time doing this but not the 1st!
I grind up the dried skins in a coffee grinder, a few at a time and get my whole amount into a bowl, a bowl of dried cactus powder then capsule them off by hand... dont care if theyre to tight because it always ends up being alot of capsules to stomach anyways... i personally ate 38 capsules my first time.
I threw up the 2nd and 3rd time doing this but not the 1st!