Expensive & limit # people in patient assist.- do I have to steal to afford? WTF!?
I live in the SE US- actually, it wouldn’t be a long drive for me to visit celebratefor20, so I’ll quote his prices below mine.
I first got on Suboxone in January ’09 quite cold turkey in June (ended up in the psych ward) and after a nasty binge got back on it November ’09 have been on it since. I’ve been with the same Sub doc the whole time; however, two different facilities, she left the first facility in June (which is why I left, that and the cost) because they
truly only cared about money, I followed her to the second facility were they do things as if they
actually care about you not only getting off full agonists and on Sub, but after a year
getting off Sub… never once heard anything about an “end game” slash taper plan at the first facility
I haven’t had insurance of any sort since I’ve been on Sub- it’s easy to get my other meds through patient assistance programs, however there are limits to the number of patients per doc for Sub- total bullshit IMO
The first facility charged $600 your first month: that was an “induction fee” that even people with insurance had to pay out of pocket- greedy bastard running the place (not my actual doc) only really cared about getting that $600 up front, fuck it if you leave after that, hell more profitable if you do then come back and pay the $600 again
After the first month, it was a flat $350 a month,
no cash discount. Furthermore, even if I had insurance, I still would have had to pay cash and then file the claims myself to seek reimbursement from insurance 8)
The 2nd facility and one that I’m currently at, unlike the first one, is not just Sub patients it has “counseling center” in the name, the downstairs are all therapists and upstairs are the docs. I see my Sub doc once a month, that’s $150 for 15 minutes; however, although sometimes it’s more or less in and out, at least once every 3 months (or more it seems) I have something important to address, e.g. a medication change, major stressor, etc.
Those times she spends 45 minutes to an hour with me, I don’t feel the least rushed, and she still charges me for 15 minutes- that’s how docs should be IMO
In addition, I see a therapist twice a month, cash is $110 however I pay $45 a visit, which is the lowest fee on his sliding scale. At the first facility, I had weekly 15 minute visits with some jackass former steroid dude who was still big as hell-
all I did for 6 months, 4 times a month was come in, take a piss test, and have him tell me, “We still need to work on your schedule.” Well duh fuckface, I had the schedule of a vampire but he wasn’t helping 8)
In contrast, the guy I see now is not one of their normal therapists, he’s an addiction specialist- I should know, that was my area of expertise/practice for years- I have high standards for psychologists having been in the game, this guy is the
real deal
[I asked for my script to be bumped from 16mg/day to 24mg/day so that I have a shit load saved… while I was off Sub, this after quitting cold turkey June last year then going to the psych ward, plus the pressures of a loved one being very sick-
Despite all these pressures plus being a doctoral student, I was able to avoid full mu agonists, which would have brought everything crashing down, by snorting 2mg Sub when I had cravings, honestly I did it 5 days a week 2 off to keep tolerance at bay, because it made me function better and the antidepressant effect was
much needed
I was once clean for 5 years, but after relapsing, even though I’ve been on Sub this time 8 months, I have
serious doubts if I can ever again be
completely opioid-free, or even if I
want to- still have lots of ambivalence and I’m no longer a 12-stepper, would rather walk a middle ground between addiction and complete abstinence- can’t afford to do 16mg/day forever or frankly even now, but stash enough to last me a long time if keep Sub dose low, which IME is easy so long as you’re not on maintenance taking 12mg or more- less if different ROA than sublingual.]
I went with Costco, they’re
by far the cheapest and if you’re a member without insurance you get an additional 10 to 30% off- I moved this April and the Costco is 2.5 hours away (but so is my Sub doc), regardless I called both RiteAid and CVS for a price quote on my (generic!) clonazepam qty. 90,
it was literally 10 times or more what I pay at Costco!
Suboxone 8mg
Qty 60 = $385 = $6.42 a pill
Qty 90 = $577 = $6.41 a pill
(although if I include the price of mandatory doc and therapist appts, it was $10.30 a pill at the first place $9.08 each at current)
Didn’t bother price shopping the 2nd time, but first time on Sub scripted 60 I called every chain pharmacy from Wal-Mart to Target to Rite-Aid to CVS. Guy I quoted below isn't too far away- we don’t have the discount he has for $7.27 a pill, but he said without discount $10.99 at CVS which sounds right to me, I remember qty. 60 was about $650 at all the other joints, one place I think was
$750 for 60, I just remember that with the exception of Costco the best price without insurance was about
$11 per pill or a little less.
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celebratefor20 said:
I live in Hendersonville, North Carolina...
Dr. Fee - $225/Month (10% cash discount included.)
-No "intske/urinalysis fee...$225/month, once a month, period.) This guy speaks very little english & writes me 120 8mg. (4/day)
Per tab (Wal-Mart in my town in NC): $7.27.
(Small discount as quantity increases; $28.72 for 4)
***i use my county's uninsured discount program available to any resident w/o anything besides proof of county residence, no paperwork and available immediatly. Knocks 1.98 off every pill, so $7.27 is after discount. They're $10.99 each at CVS w/o discount.)