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People judge me.....

If people are judging you for using drugs, then you have a drug problem.

Your problem is that people are judging you... because of drugs. So stop doing drugs for a while, divert your interest to other interesting stuff. Being able to do that is in an important life skill to have.

And no offense: but I think some of you guys in this thread need to put things into perspective a bit. As a human being, you're just a feeble little creature without other humans. Our very survival depends on forming close bonds with others. Your relationships with other people should be much, much more important to you than your drug experiences-- however profound those experiences may have been.
 
What kind of advice is that!?!? ^ People judge what they don't understnad all the time, no need to pander to these kind of people.

I agree with the rest though, about more interesting things - but that particular part was absolute crap.

citysmog said:
I wasn't so sure where to post this but I thought PD would be the place, mods feel free to move this if you want.

Well anyway, recently I have lost quite a lot of friends with my use of psychedelics. Quite a large group of my friends stopped being my friend when I went on a bit of an mdma binge (really wasn't that bad maybe 4 times in two months, I now only take mdma once every 2-3 months). They thought I was a "druggie", that I was "constantly fried", really neither was true they just couldn't accept that I did mdma. Even after all this I still had quite a close group of friends.


I was instantly attacked by her best friend who called me a "drug addict" a "bad influence" a genuine "sid vicous" (did not take this one that harshly lol). A few weeks later a close friend of mine had a bad trip while candy flipping, and accused me of dosing him with an unknown chemical, he told me I was a horrible person and that I was nothing but a bad influence on his life. He then decides to cut me out of his life via text which felt horrible.

This morning I woke up with a text from my girlfriend asking me if I could try something, interested I asked what I had to try. She asked me if I could stop talking about drugs for a week, I refused. She is now not talking to me which is horrible, and I refuse to believe I overly obsess over drugs, sure I am interested in their molecular make up and how certain drugs can have such a profound affect on a person's conscious but I am not obsessed just fascinated, I do not even talk about them that much.



-citysmog
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Dude - those people who were your "friends", were never your friends if they think you're always fried - I've been there, and it's shitty - you just have to reassure them you're doing OK drug-wise, and that it's not getting out of hand...talking about them too much is a big problem though, if you're around people who don't do them too much - you can sound naive and preachy - not cool on both fronts.

Those 2 people I highlighted - it's best they're out of your life really - your gf's best mate, well that's a hard one - just talk to your girlfriend calmly about how that makes you feel, considering you're no doubt going to be seeing her every now and then;
the other "friend" - WELL he sounds like he has awful willpower and is using you as a scapegoat...wait for him to come back if he's been valued as a friend, and don't make him feel bad for being stupid.

If he doesn't come back, he never was a real friend, and god riddance really - you don't need people like that in your life.

Sounds like maybe you're a lil too zealous about your experiences with psychedelics - which is cool, it's all exciting, but you might want to talk these kind of things over with likeminded people, and not alienate yourself from friends who aren't ready to have their eyes opened so bluntly.

Peace, this will all workout if you chill dude, no one's attacking you - people posted in here coz they relate and wanna help you out in your situation :)
 
Jblazingphoenix100 said:
What kind of advice is that!?!? ^ People judge what they don't understnad all the time, no need to pander to these kind of people.
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I never advised pandering to anyone, I advised devoting one's energy to a variety of pursuits instead of concentrating an excess of energy on drugs-- that way you can learn to relate to a wide variety of people in a wide variety of contexts, which is an important skill to have as a person. Severing relationships with others over drugs is ridiculous behavior.
 
Splitz said:
People can judge me all they like, if I happen to mention or advocate usage of drugs. I really couldn't give a toss though.
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Well that isn't really good advice do too some people want to help you so bad that they tell the authority’s/rehab/social welfare-system-crap. Or they they tell them because of other reasons or it's simply a little town.

And talking about legalization of drugs is okay, buy the problem is when they see you as a druggie.

Roger&Me said:
If people are judging you for using drugs, then you have a drug problem.

Your problem is that people are judging you... because of drugs. So stop doing drugs for a while, divert your interest to other interesting stuff.
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Phone call
Reality: Are you kidding me?
Some people will say that if you take drugs once a year you have a drug problem and other people think you can do
heroin everyday without thinking it's a problem. And someone is wrong.

So let's say that you do LSD once a month, a lot of people where i live would say you have a problem ( 95-99% ).
And that is not a problem, it's because people are stupid and ignorant.
You should not live your life by what stupid and/or ignorant people think.
 
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Roger&Me said:
Your problem is that people are judging you... because of drugs. So stop doing drugs for a while, divert your interest to other interesting stuff. Being able to do that is in an important life skill to have.

And no offense: but I think some of you guys in this thread need to put things into perspective a bit. As a human being, you're just a feeble little creature without other humans. Our very survival depends on forming close bonds with others. Your relationships with other people should be much, much more important to you than your drug experiences-- however profound those experiences may have been.
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Great points, Roger. I agree that in this thread, the importance of these relationships is a bit undervalued. I've been in a similar situation and did lose touch with most of my social network, and it was pretty devastating for awhile. I still trip and do other drugs nowadays, but I certainly am more careful about both the amount which to which I use drugs, and the amount that others know about my current drug use.

@citysmog... The "druggie" label is hard to combat. I recommend you try to remove this label from yourself as quickly as possible.
 
Roger, bro - Oh yeah without a doubt - I'm all up for learning as many skills as poss, and being able to hang with a diverse variety of people - but if these people see him as overdoing it, and he really feels he's not, then I think the ignorant lose out here.

Smogman -
If they only see you so often and like 50% of those times you bump into them you're fried, then that just means you got unlucky and maybe need to see them more, sober - just prove to them (if you valued them as friends, and not just acquaintances, you really don't need to prove yourself to anyone but YOU) that you're really not fucked all the time & make more efforts to see them...they'll see if you got it together.

I cannot stress enough not talking about drugs with these kinda friends though - they know you do them, actions speak louder than words when it comes to trying to change people's minds to the advantages of psychedelics, both therapeutic and metaphysical - so stop talking and just let them see the good influences of them on your life, if they're actually having one.
 
Last year my ex told me that when wed been together her friends were constantly warning her against me because I was a 'druggie'. The same people approach me when they see me and without fail ask me do I know of any pills, coke etc. going around. Hypocrisy is pathetic
 
I think most people have a psychedelic honeymoon period where they become rather obsessed with them and want to spread the word. It's natural and if they were friends worth having they'd indulge you and let you be who you are. If they really don't want to hear it then either fuck them off and get some decent friends or don't talk about drugs to them
 
ImtheOcean said:
Last year my ex told me that when wed been together her friends were constantly warning her against me because I was a 'druggie'. The same people approach me when they see me and without fail ask me do I know of any pills, coke etc. going around. Hypocrisy is pathetic
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same shit happened to me.
 
Why did your girlfriend's friend start insulting you after your gf was convicted of a felony? I assume it was drug related and that you got her using, or using more, or holding your drugs for you (granted the first two would be mostly her fault)? I guess I don't see why you phrased it the way you did unless there's something more to it.

Also, did you dose your friend too high with LSD and MDMA for a beginner? Was it really MDMA and LSD? Why did he think there was an "unknown" chemical in there?

Both of those stories vaguely imply that your use is having a negative impact on those around you (that is, it's not just talk, the talk is just what irks them most frequently). That's usually when ultimatums start being made.

If your use is negatively impacting the lives of others you do have a problem because you've made it someone else's problem, too, and a demand to simply stop talking about drugs to people who don't want to hear it is actually pretty lenient. Hell, a demand that you prove you can quit for a month if you want to continue your relationship with them, like others have stated, would also be pretty justified because you've shown you can't control the repercussions of your use for others. Think of using drugs alone like masturbating and using with other "druggies" like sex. It's an enjoyable private or group activity, but you wouldn't tell people about all your kinks and the sordid thoughts going through your head during it unless they really pressed you for a description or expressed an interest, right?

However, if your "friends" are unaffected by your use and abandon you to what they believe is a miserable fate instead of trying to "help" you merely because you talk about drugs then they aren't friends.
 
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There is some good advise on here... I think you are definately in your honeymoon state of psycs I am at the tail end of mine. They are so magical in everyway and you love to talk about them, understand them, and use them for every occasion. You probally think that alcohol and all of the other socially acceptable drugs are stupid ect. You want to learn the culture ect. Thats what i went through.. That will definately slow down. Remember also that most people just dont understand some of the insight you have gained. That is ok not everyone will. Just keep it special and do it with a special group of people that do understand you. Im in a position in my life were I know i am far far better off than 99.9% of people so if someone thinks they can judge me i just let to roll off. I have everything money, a increadable wife, great life best job ect. Even with that people will think im some drug addict if i told them about my useage. It is becasue people are scarred of the unknown and ignorant. They will try their hardest to make you conform to what they believe is the correct model. Dont let them bother you.
 
Relationships are ALWAYS two-way streets.

It's not black and white. You shouldn't just expel people from your life for questioning your drug-use, but on the other hand there are plenty of people that are just plain not worth being friends with. Furthermore, there's no reason that all your friends need to know all about your entire life. It's best to keep the most personal information between only the closest of friends.


All the commenters on here saying that close to 99% of their community does not do drugs are making me sad.
 
First of all I wanted to apologize for sounding insensitive in the way i portrayed the value of my relationships. Im new to this online forum deal and im finding that I need to be careful on the words I choose to convey my intended message.
I totally agree with everyone especially roger and jblazingphoenix. I have/had many friends and so called friends and have learned a great deal about myself from each one. I have spent alot of energy trying to fit in my younger years with severe consequences to say the least. Through my experiences I know what a true friend is.
As for my wife I knew she wouldn't leave me for my drug use, shes just traumatized of the fact her brother struggles with crack. I have an open communication with her and explained that I wouldn't do anything to put myself at risk and that the drugs I choose to consume provide insite and enlightenment, not death and destruction.
I have now devoted my life to my family, but it first begins with me, I cant help them if I cant help myself. Now my peeps knows how to get a hold of me if they need me, and not to only smoke my dank either.
 
Real friends don't disown you because you are experimenting with drugs and or using them. Now if you are a full blown addict that's a different story, it shows they actually care and don't want to see you die.

I wouldn't call what you're doing binging either. Inform them on what's up, if they can't deal with it, find new friends I guess and end the pointless drama.
 
With all due respect, dude, if your gf asked if you could stop talking about drugs for a week and you refused if doesn't look like you care about her much. Maybe I'm basing it on an overly brief description but how hard is it to not talk about it for a week around 1 person?
 
Dude.. I know what she's talking about, because I used to talk about drugs all the time too. Now I have a friend who recently met psychedelics and he talks about them all the time as well and sometimes it does get pretty annoying. I'm not quite sure why you told her no, as much as you want to talk about them if you're not overly obsessed over them then why cant you not talk about them, she kinda did just get charged with a felony man. :/ just my two cents.
 
Roger&Me said:
And no offense: but I think some of you guys in this thread need to put things into perspective a bit. As a human being, you're just a feeble little creature without other humans. Our very survival depends on forming close bonds with others. Your relationships with other people should be much, much more important to you than your drug experiences-- however profound those experiences may have been.
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I also want to say.. this post just made you a bit on a idol to me. :)
 
I don't neccesarily agree that interpersonal relationships are more important then drug experiences (or any other experience, for that matter). In past times, I had a very wide group of friends but have found that I simply can't tolerate 90% of them any longer. A lot of it has to do with my own desire for a certain isolation and freedom; I got tired of feeling different to my old friends, especially when I was (and am) certain that the way I think/see/do things is actually the more correct method of living; or at least, its a way of life that leads to more fulfillment of sorts. My own shedding of friends has been rather harsh and possibly abrupt to some, but I simply won't sit around drinking beer and talking about bullshit all night long. I would much rather sit around with me, myself and I and learn. I'm blessed to have my Miss Willow to be with, and my dog-friend Henry; I have a few very close friends, but I simply don't care for acquaintances anymore.

I don't think human beings are feeble at all, and I don't think we need other people to validate our existence. In fact, I don't really have a good reason for needing other humans in our lives at all....
 
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