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last call in the terminal! all aboard the 3-MEO-PCP ROCKETSHIP. T- 5 minutes for lift off!

FREE TICKETS FOR EVERYONE!

P.S. complimentary drinks on the house
 
18mg 4-ACO-DMT IV fucked my world up. For the first time in ages I couldn't handle my trip. lol I was actually scared.

Have any of you ever IV'd 4-ACO-DMT?

I'm hesitant to ever do it that way again!
 
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first stop: Sea of serenity, Moon. We'll be arriving there shortly and we'll refill our tanks and open the ship for more souls to enter.

When exiting to the platform MIND THE GAP! We will be leaving briefly so if you need to go to the toilet, be fastandbulbous if you desire to get back onboard.
 
DING DONG! "This is your conductor, Manfredd ActionMan speaking. We will be shortly arriving at our next destination, Venus. The weather seems to be quite hot on this particular evening so we highly recommend you to leave all excessive clothing and get naked! The gods don't mind :) Don't forget to board the ship since we will be leaving towards the next destination shortly"
 
I don't know what else to do at this point, so I just railed another 10mg 3-MeO-PCP as I watch the world Bern in all of its glory....tears of joy, its out of my hands at this point.
 
Just A Guy said:
18mg 4-ACO-DMT IV fucked my world up. For the first time in ages I couldn't handle my trip. lol I was actually scared.

Have any of you ever IV'd 4-ACO-DMT?

I'm hesitant to ever do it that way again!
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I actually really love 4-aco-DMT IV'd. I think it's the in-my-faceness that I like from DMT but with the mushroom-flavor. Oddly I do the same dose orally and IV'd, but I lower it for nasal.

I've probably tried IV about 15 times over 6 years. I prefer 4-HO-MET IV because it's more euphoric.
 
Hmmm. 4-HO-MET is euphoric huh? I'll have to give that one a shot sometime.

No, I really went into that trip all wrong. Was thinking about all the reasons why I shouldn't be doing this right now, and was in a freaked-out way before I dosed -- Totally amateur move from a guy who has habitual experience with other psychedelic substances. It was more intense than I had ever experienced. Most visually abusive & wonderful effect I'd ever experienced. It fought hard to dominate me. I refused to let it considering the circumstances. I'm going to try this again, orally, though, at 25mg.
 
4-HO-MET is the exact opposite of euphoric IMHO. For some reason I react much harsher to it than others. I don't really like tryptamines at all I've been finding out.
 
I found 4-ho-met to be dysphoric for the first few times I would use it. In the middle of the trip something would switch and I would get this moody stimulating darkness to my thoughts. Then I started mixing it with stuff and that all changed.

3-meo-pcp felt like it added just what I was looking for in low doses, high doses were very disturbing. I actually fell into a week binge shooting 4-ho-met and 3-meo-pcp in the same syringe and it took me about 2 weeks to not desire to do it again. It went from a "I'm going to only try this once" (10mg 3-meo-pcp and 5mg 4-ho-met)... to every 8 hours I was doing a shot of 15mg 3-meo-pcp and 20mg 4-ho-met. Let me tell ya, I saw some things! Best part was a fun trip to the lake by my place with a few friends who picked me up right after a morning dose. Between seeing whirlpools in the water and "feeling fish" (I think I was imagining it) it was one of the most full blown experiences I had in awhile. Stimulation on the end is a bit annoying though.

O-PCE made it really confusing and fun.

Then for some reason I really started liking it on its own. It became one of my "club drugs"
 
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I really want to IV 4-ACO-DMT, but I don't have any IV experience, and my friends would look at me in a weird way if I want to stick a needle in myself so I can't really ask them to help me.
 
kidklmx said:
I really want to IV 4-ACO-DMT, but I don't have any IV experience, and my friends would look at me in a weird way if I want to stick a needle in myself so I can't really ask them to help me.
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Biggest think I found with using a needle with it is that I needed practice before I did it. With 2c-e it's so disorienting that it's instantly enjoyable but with this there is like 3 minutes that you get to clean up before it in your face like "you need to TRIP, young space cadet".
 
Just A Guy said:
18mg 4-ACO-DMT IV fucked my world up. For the first time in ages I couldn't handle my trip. lol I was actually scared.

Have any of you ever IV'd 4-ACO-DMT?

I'm hesitant to ever do it that way again!
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I have IVed it. It was a pretty brutal experience for me. But I had IVed it before and it wasn't a bad experience. The first time I IVed 15mg.
The 2nd time I iv'd was about 14mg in each arm. So a total of about 28mg. It was such a great experience the first time, I felt it would probably be even better the next time I tried it in higher dose, I was wrong.

I remember the first time, it hit me literally in 3 seconds. There was no come up, no nausea, no anxiety. It was just there, had no time to prepare. I went outside in my backyard and laid in a lawn chair and just admired the sky. The trip was very short tho. Lasted about hour and half,

The second time IVing was pretty rough. i was in the guest bedroom at home. No one was going to be home the entire wknd. Set and setting were good. Mind state was good, at least I thought. I was very excited that everyone was going to be gone for the wknd. Just like the first time I IVed it, the trip began instantly, felt manageable so IVed the other syringe I had prepared. I had my earbuds and playlist ready. This trip was getting weird fast. The CEVs were exactly like the OEV's. I can't even describe what they were. But at one point I wasn't sure if my eyes were closed or open. I put my head under the covers and still same visuals.
Then things started to get sinister. My hands began to hurt. The skin on them felt like it was stretching. So I got up from the bed and my hands looked swollen and blue (kind like what a dead body would look like) I noticed my feet and knees looked the same. They looked gross, and swollen and dead.

I became frightened. I was panicking. I was thinking "oh fuck, I have really fucked up, I have done it this time!" Because my hands and feet looked blue I thought that I injecting did something to my veins that was cutting off oxygen or blood or something to my extremities. Even my lips looked blue. Looking into a mirror really made things even worse. Omg... I was scared. terrified

I thought I was dying. It was very difficult for me to keep reminding myself that my body may only look distorted because I had injected a drug, that distorts vision. I was looking for my phone, to try to take a picture of my hands and feet. I couldn't find it anywhere. I could barely walk, i do think at some point I was crawling on hands and knees because walking was weird or I couldn't. I don't know But never found my phone. I then became even more terrified.

I have always loved being outside while on 4-Aco-Dmt. Being in nature makes me feel a loving and deep connection with earth. So I immediately got up and headed to the back porch. It was very hard to walk, which has never happened on this substance. I made it to my back porch. I had been cold when I was inside, so I had on sweat pants and a hoodie. (I live in the south and it was probably 85° – 90° outside)
It was the middle of the day, but everything looked sinister and I felt very paranoid. I felt someone or something was watching me. Even tho I have a 8ft privacy fence in my backyard.
So I went back inside and decided a shower might help. But it didn't. I kept getting mental pictures in my head of my family coming home, only to find me dead. And how horrible that would be for them. I was fighting this trip every step of the way, which I believe made things worse.
By this time I felt like I had been tripping for a very long time. In the shower my body looked like a corpse. Why I had not aborted this trip with a benzo or etizolam, I don't know!
I even have a little pill case with a few Xanax, etizolam and trazodone that I made just in case a trip like this ever occurred.

Anyways it finally began to wear down.

It felt like forever, but it was only 6:30pm.
I was finally somewhat in my right mind enougt to look at a clock and find my phone. I had IVed at around 430ish. I couldn't believe that only and 1 1/2 - 2 hours had gone by. Because it felt like i was dying forever.

I can't say I didn't learn anything from the trip. I learned a lot. I remember during the worst part of the trip, when I thought I was going to die and my family would find me dead. So after trip was pretty much over, I was angry at myself for being so selfish and inconsiderate of the feelings of others. Injecting any drug is risky, but I had injected an RC. I did feel it was a wake up call that I needed to make some adjustments and changes in my life. I felt so guilty for being so excited and giddy that they were all leaving for the wknd so I could test out some RC's.
I think I needed a psychedelic ass beating, and that was what I got.

Since that trip I have done 4-aco-dmt again, but only orally. And I have had other bad trips with 4-aco-dmt, but none where I truly believed I was going to die. It was just really crazy and scary.
 
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To be honest I have actually gone and done it now this time. My girlfriend had an anxiety attack due to the dysphoria that comes with food poisoning, and in trying to calm her down I decided to give her some etizolam. I lay all of my potent chemicals on top of candy, and what do you know, I had actually mixed up the labels for my etizolam and DOC. Very luckily for me she is the type of person that laughs about shit like this, and needless to say that out of solidarity I partook in this unexpected experiment, but I just can't forgive myself for the hell I have put her through..

Hopefully this is the kind of mistake that only happens to you once. I take great care to avoid things like this, but apparently that is not enough
 
damn you can be glad as fuck that etizolam dose is as low as it is. how much DOC did you give her?

anyway good luck and hopefully good fun!^^
 
Lol jesus... My girl would leave me if I dosed her with a psychedelic, even by accident... I'm almost glad she doesn't have any interest in drugs.
 
Bagseed said:
damn you can be glad as fuck that etizolam dose is as low as it is.
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:D not really? If the mixup was from drugs already laid on candy, they were already dosed so how would the DOC dose be equivalent? kidklmx would have to fill us in but that doesn't make sense. If anything, because the etizolam potency is high for it to need low doses it enabled 'candy-laying' and made this possible..

And wow yes: getting food poisoning, consequently an anxiety attack and instead of getting some sweet relief that you were expecting a DOC trip appears :( - she is incredibly understanding it seems. An 'honest' mistake one could argue, there is no intention involved here with the carelessness that is obvious, but plenty of women (and also a good deal of men) could get incredibly angry. So I'll assume that she is a semi-casual tripper and despite you describing it as a 'hell' you put her through that is why she could roll with the punches?

I can't decide if it is more fortunate that the onset is so ridiculously long that I expect the anxiety attack itself had dissippated before it could be the groundwork of true terror (although food poisoning likely had not resolved if it was true food poisoning), or more unfortunate that DOC lasts so long...

How strong did you dose the candies? Because I can see some doses of DOC to be valuable/worthwhile but at the same time weak enough to be manageable... while other doses would just be horrible.

Understandable that you have a hard time forgiving yourself cause it sounds like a dramatic thing to happen, but you did not mean for it to happen... it's healthy to feel so responsible, just be good to each other in the light of this.. but it's rather the carelessness or the flaw in your drug management that I would transfer the concern to, and make as many changes to your practices as possible to ensure the safety of yourself and people around you. :) Hope she is doing better now.

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