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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Euphoric Rambles for Swirling Souls

^Hah you're totally right. I was thinking we should move this conversation to an actual thread in the PD forum, since it's most definitely a harm reduction topic, and PD, and not really the kind of swirly rambles this is meant to be for...

SKL I like the molecule on the bottom lol
 
I've got a quick question for anyone who has used any research chemical base tryptamines.... Do you have any experience vaporizing them in a GVG like DMT?

Yep. I've vaporized a good bit of freebase DPT in a GVG, on copper mesh. Nothing to say, other than that it was very effective, as expected. I wouldn't want to smoke a base tryptamine any other way.



Do you guys have any suggestions for classy organizational methods for chemical collections? Mine are randomly stuffed into a number of orange medicine bottles along with some dessicant, but it can take awhile to find what I'm looking for sometimes.
 
Do you guys have any suggestions for classy organizational methods for chemical collections? Mine are randomly stuffed into a number of orange medicine bottles along with some dessicant, but it can take awhile to find what I'm looking for sometimes.
I keep my substances in amber vials with rubber seal plastic caps which seal fairly well. I then use a label printer (they're not too expensive, worth it in the end) to print off a label which displays the chemical name, and if a liquid, the concentration level. Then I just put them all in a cheap safe box in one of my cabinets. Desiccants absorb a SHIT ton of water from the air here, so unless I have something like blotters in a sealed jar, I don't bother with it these days.

You can get quite a few amber bottles for fairly cheap on the internet, not hard to find. Worth it in my book. Get a variety of sizes, I never know how much of a substance I'll end up getting. Sometimes you need one to fit 5 grams, sometimes only 500mg.
 
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Thanks again for writing that up Xorkoth, it's well worth the read. :)

Ah, that "Recepterome" paper is one of the contemporary classics and has a couple of my favorite people as co authors <3 Good stuff. I like making infographics and stuff so maybe I will put my hand to some of the data.

some infographics I've done in the past....

I remember you posting some of those molecules before, good stuff haha. Cool MDMA information too, I'll be thinking about all that for a while. :)

If you get around to making any for that paper, I'd love to see them! It's definitely a good one, I've referred back to it many times.

Since when did this thread become the Neuroscience forum? LOL I thought it was meant for swirly talk not hard science.

Just kidding, Science On, brethren. I'll try to keep up.

If it means anything, I often feel like I'm tripping when I'm thinking really hard about these things lol.

I'll try to keep it elsewhere in the future if I think it'll get this involved again. :P

^Hah you're totally right. I was thinking we should move this conversation to an actual thread in the PD forum, since it's most definitely a harm reduction topic, and PD, and not really the kind of swirly rambles this is meant to be for...

Yeah, when I brought it here it was mainly just to share an idea and some fun facts with the vets who might appreciate them, I didn't necessarily expect there to be quite as much interest but I'm glad there was lol. I'm honestly starting to run out of actual material to contribute, those 5-HT2B activation potency studies were my big guns, but if a thread was started I would still contribute my thoughts to it.

Did you check out that paper you posted yet? It's pretty neat, it's really getting me to think more about the 5-HT2A receptor's cardiovascular effects as well, particularly with some of these synthetic tryptamines having such high efficacy there....

Yep. I've vaporized a good bit of freebase DPT in a GVG, on copper mesh. Nothing to say, other than that it was very effective, as expected. I wouldn't want to smoke a base tryptamine any other way.

Awesome, thanks for the response. :) I'm glad to hear it. I've actually never used a GVG, but I'm planning to get one now to try with all my base tryptamines. That MET experience has really gotten me excited to see just what they all can do when used this way!

what's a GVG?

Glass Vapor Genie, a specific vaporizer pipe that is supposed to be excellent for use with DMT. I know lots of people who claim it gives them breakthroughs with like 20-25 mg versus like 35-50 mg with other methods.
 
Glass Vapor Genie, a specific vaporizer pipe that is supposed to be excellent for use with DMT. I know lots of people who claim it gives them breakthroughs with like 20-25 mg versus like 35-50 mg with other methods.
I'm gonna keep that in mind %)
 
Did you check out that paper you posted yet? It's pretty neat, it's really getting me to think more about the 5-HT2A receptor's cardiovascular effects as well, particularly with some of these synthetic tryptamines having such high efficacy there....

Yeah I did, really fascinating and good info.

Glass Vapor Genie, a specific vaporizer pipe that is supposed to be excellent for use with DMT. I know lots of people who claim it gives them breakthroughs with like 20-25 mg versus like 35-50 mg with other methods.

I'd like to build a "The Machine" pipe, but haven't got around to it yet. Does anyone have anything to say about "The Machine" vs Glass Vapor Genie?
 
I've used the machine and the vapor genie and find the machine to be a lot more effective.
One method i haven't tried but think will be the best is using an oil rig/dab bong.
You could hypothetically get the whole dose in 1 hit with a little practice.
 
You could hypothetically get the whole dose in 1 hit with a little practice.

I've heard people give this as the exact reason they love the GVG though. Were you not able to do it with that?
 
This chat about vapourizing just gave me the most vivid flashback to the tastes of 5-MeO-DMT and DPT vapour.. ugh.. that taste is a hard thing for me to get over, so plasticy/mothbally. My deepest instincts tell me "this is super unhealthy", which is not an ideal mindset for a rapid onset trip. Anyone else have this issue? I also wonder if I'm not vaping right, maybe this taste/smell is from it burning.
 
wow DPT with a powerful empathogen combo, that sounds epic. Have you done combos like that before?

200mg plus mdma 120mg plugged dpt and mxe and ket.

I usually dose 30-50mg dpt. The mdma made 120mg seem like whatever i saw was okay and I just rode it out
 
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I keep my substances in amber vials with rubber seal plastic caps which seal fairly well. I then use a label printer (they're not too expensive, worth it in the end) to print off a label which displays the chemical name, and if a liquid, the concentration level. Then I just put them all in a cheap safe box in one of my cabinets. Desiccants absorb a SHIT ton of water from the air here, so unless I have something like blotters in a sealed jar, I don't bother with it these days.

You can get quite a few amber bottles for fairly cheap on the internet, not hard to find. Worth it in my book. Get a variety of sizes, I never know how much of a substance I'll end up getting. Sometimes you need one to fit 5 grams, sometimes only 500mg.
Tip for this with taped label weigh vial I record weight with. Thrn its easy to know how much you have left once you add substance
 
This chat about vapourizing just gave me the most vivid flashback to the tastes of 5-MeO-DMT and DPT vapour.. ugh.. that taste is a hard thing for me to get over, so plasticy/mothbally. My deepest instincts tell me "this is super unhealthy", which is not an ideal mindset for a rapid onset trip. Anyone else have this issue? I also wonder if I'm not vaping right, maybe this taste/smell is from it burning.

I get the plastic flavor from DMT, but I actually find it pleasant. The other day when I smoked MET in dream herb the nasty flavor of the herb definitely took dominance, but I could detect some of that indole flavor in it still and I actually considered that to be the silver lining. I'm not sure whether or not you actually should be able to taste them if you're vaporizing it properly though, but I don't remember ever not noticing the taste and I always get decent effects.
 
Awesome, thanks for the response. :) I'm glad to hear it. I've actually never used a GVG, but I'm planning to get one now to try with all my base tryptamines. That MET experience has really gotten me excited to see just what they all can do when used this way!

You'll love it. Just make sure you're using a good lighter. Don't use an ordinary disposable lighter; not only does the flint create toxic soot which eventually clogs the filter and stains the glass, but it gives the vapor an unpleasant taste IMO. Unlike lighting a bowl or a joint, when you heat the contents of a GVG, you're inhaling a high volume of the combustion products of the lighter butane (which is theoretically just water and CO2), so you want that butane to be as clean as possible, and due to the bad taste I worry that Bic butane isn't very pure.

I started using a torch lighter with my GVG, but ultimately I was happiest with the lighter that VaporGenie sells on their website and specifically recommends for use with their vaporizers.
 
Good to know, thanks again for the tip! I would have gladly used my Bic in blissful ignorance so it's much appreciated. :)
 
In regards to the classic DMT smell / taste it's something I've learned to adore, love, and in some ways almost worship? It couldn't be farther from nasty plastic to me.
 
Glass Vapor Genie, a specific vaporizer pipe that is supposed to be excellent for use with DMT. I know lots of people who claim it gives them breakthroughs with like 20-25 mg versus like 35-50 mg with other methods.

What in the hell is wrong with a crackpipe? Kids today ... :p

First thing I smoked DMT out of was a gragantuan crackpipe made from the stem of a bong.

Then my usual go to method was an actual rose or glass bulb MA pipe, which I found to be the best method.
 
^Yeah I'm sure the original MA pipe style works fine. I remember the first time I vaped bud, my buddy had a lightbulb he had fashioned into a vape. Hold the lighter and plug it till it gets good and vapey. Can't go wrong with classics lol

Vapor genies are 60+ bucks too, bleh.
 
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