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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Euphoric Rambles for Swirling Souls

it's always nice to be completely sober for a few days, it's like waking up from a dream.

I finally remembered my dreams. Too bad it was a dream where my mother died. I had a moment upon waking up when I didn't know if it was real or not.
 
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Say i am going to a concert with no rentry. I have 150mg K I wanna use. If i pack on a straw and cut of tip bump and reburn will that work. I am thinking most will jist stay stuck to straw.
 
But if you're sharp and adequate you should recognize the difference in context between a flipped out schizophrenic and a person who has no issues with delusions of any kind but instead gains benefit. It's a good sign if they are more free to talk about it, I don't like it when people are so stuck in their thinking that they can't let go of something preprogrammed, basically like a prejudice (or morals?).

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But why cant it be both (zoidberg style)
 
Say i am going to a concert with no rentry. I have 150mg K I wanna use. If i pack on a straw and cut of tip bump and reburn will that work. I am thinking most will jist stay stuck to straw.

I'm maybe missing something, but wouldn't it just go up the straw? Why would it stick? Are you snorting? Seems like you could do what I do with 3-MeO, pack some in a little foil packet and bring a snorter.
 
Fuck it i got it figured out. Mxe and k watching two amazing live bands. Only thing else I could ask for is a bed an an IV line drip ;-)


Such an awesome show
. Love live music
 
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it's always nice to be completely sober for a few days, it's like waking up from a dream.

When you use psychoactive drugs with enough regularity, sobriety starts to feel like its own sort of high. It's just another unique state of consciousness. So far, I think it's my favorite trip, although I wouldn't want to be on it 24/7. ;)
 
So far, I think it's my favorite trip, although I wouldn't want to be on it 24/7. ;)

Haha lovely put. Can relate.


I another swirling news, seems like 2C-D isn't for me.
I went to see a band last tuesday, and I wanted something to spice up the show but had ran out of weed and didn't wanna continue my last weekend's disso binge. So I remembered I had some 2C-D, which is short-live enough to fit into a tuesday night.

I had tried it before orally up to 30 mg, and had always been underwhelmed, it felt like a stimulant primarily. I figured snorting 25 mg would be a good idea this time.

FUCK ! The initial burn wasn't THAT bad, even though it hurt, but then I had the feeling that I had destroyed my nostril, for at least an hour. My nose felt clogged with a ball of black pepper or something. Horribly uncomfortable, bothered me the whole time.

As for the trip itself, well, it come on fairly instantaneously, I felt some stimulation and then I felt the psychedelia set in in like 15 minutes. While coming up I felt for minute that I had overdone it, as it was coming up hard and strong, and it made me feel uncomfortable being around so many people. So I drank a can of beer to calm my nerves down, but then when the trip hit the "plateau" which was some 30 minutes after dosing, it didn't feel as strong as I anticipated during the coming up. I wonder if the beer dulled the trip, but then again it was just a can, I wasn't drunk or anything.

So I don't know, I'm not sure I would want to go through that pain in the nose again only to have a skyrocketing come up that leads to a mild 2C-E like trip minus the mindfuck.
And now, after experimenting for a while I don't have enough for a big enough oral dose.


Show was good though.
 
Well hot damn, 4-EMC is great! I got it just because it was laughably cheap, but I actually really like it. It didn't feel stimulating at all, it just felt like a warm blanket of soft empathogenesis and euphoric sensation. Nothing overwhelming but every aspect of it was positive and lovely, there were literally no downsides. I started with 200mg rectally + 50mg nasally, then redosed 5 times in total over the course of 7 hours, for a total of probably close to a gram. I didn't feel fiendy at any time, the redoses were done at intervals I allowed myself to do beforehand. There was no comedown at any point, and I felt the same lovely way the whole time, every redose actually worked. There was a period of time that I felt pretty rushy, right after my first redose of 160mg rectally (after that I did it all nasally), during that time I sat down with a massive grin and my eyes were rolling back in my head listening to music. Despite ALL that 4-EMC, my heartrate did not seem to go up at all, I did not feel stimulated, but the feeling felt very complete, I didn't feel like I was lacking anything. I had a fair amount of empathogenesis, no controllably pouring out my feelings, but I wanted to talk a lot and share feelings. It was very much an in-control feeling, a nice thing for relaxing with friends. We were originally going to go to a show, but it was an outdoor venue and it was cold, rainy and quite windy, so we stayed in, and I'm glad because I think it was perfect. Over the course of about 9 hours I drank a good bit of beer with it but never got more than slightly drunk, they mixed fine.

Today I don't even have a hangover, my nose is pretty clogged but that's par for the course with snorting hundreds of milligrams of powder. The burn stung a bit but only for a very short time, it wasn't bad to snort at all. As I mentioned, it felt no comedown feelings at any point even after 5 redoses. I feel asleep pretty easily about 2 hours after my last redose, even though I still felt really good.

Honestly overall I might prefer this to methylone. It didn't reach the same peak, but there were literally no downsides. With methylone I do feel a comedown, and I feel really fiendy for more, and after redoses the comedown can get pretty bad. It seems about equipotent with methylone, maybe it's less potent and higher doses would be even better, I'll probably try that next time, an initial 300mg dose. On the other hand, my friend had 100mg nasally and then redosed 100mg and had to sit down because of the intense rushes, and threw up unexpectedly too. Two friends tried it with me, both took way less than I did and seemed at least as intoxicated if not moreso. My other friend took like 70mg nasally and then was floored, he said it was too intense for about 15 minutes. He redosed 30mg after maybe an hour and got floored again. Of course he is really sensitive to everything, he'll be really high from 60mg of methylone, or 75mg of MDMA.

For me, it was not that sort of high where you're like "OH MY GOD THIS IS INCREDIBLE", but I felt really, really good all night and had a really wonderful night, and paid no price for that, it was easy to keep it at the same level. I didn't have a single hint of discomfort, or any lossy feelings as it started to drop in intensity, or any fiending, or anything. I just smoked a hit of weed and I actually feel a low-level version of the same feeling, how nice. :)

EDIT: Well, I do notice that I feel pretty unmotivated today. I feel a general sense of not feeling 100%, I kinda just want to sit around and watch episodes on netflix, I am used to doing something or spending time with my girlfriend during downtime so this is making me feel listless, but I do feel listless when I don't have anything to do for the day regardless of whether I just did a lot of an empathogen the night before. I do think my energy level is lower but I think if I went to hang out with friends, for example, that I'd have a good time and not really notice. I felt better when I woke up than I do now, but I still feel pretty decent. If I had taken that much methylone, for example (using the example of what I previously considered to be the lowest-impact empathogen I've tried), I would feel significantly more drained today. I am considering a low dose of 3-MeO-PCP, it would probably overall be better for me if I didn't but I feel like it would be nice.

I had originally intended on sampling escaline today but I certainly don't feel up to it now.

Also worth noting that I took phenibut 2 days in a row and none today, and whenever I do that I do feel some amount of lowness on the off day. Gotta start reducing phenibut, I've been slowly increasing my rate of usage, and I need to get back down to a sustainable level.
 
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I'm super tempted to try 4-HO-McPT tonight. Either that, or 4-HO-EPT. I ate a tyramine-free diet today just in case I decided to do 4-HO-McPT, if there is any validity to the speculation that it might be an MAOI.

It's both terrifying and extremely enticing to take a substance with no known reports of human use.
 
Yeah being a real guinea pig is kinda exciting. I'd say go for the McPT but that's just because I really want to read an account of it. If you do could you try to write a TR?

I've got DOF and DOiP that I am going to try sometime... DoIP has some minimal reports but nothing conclusive, but I can't find anything on DOF, just that it might be a simple stimulant, and it probably has a much higher dose than other DOXs. And that it could be turned into DOEF somehow, which sounds like a fantastic substance.

I also have MPT, I'm unaware of any TRs on that, I think I'm going to try it soon.

EDIT: I also have some MiPT on the way as of now! Pretty excited about that, Kaleida's report and a few others have me really wanting to give it a go. :) I love both 5-MeO-MiPT and 4-HO-MiPT.
 
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MPT theoretically should be a really powerful ego-annihilator, considering that it's structurally halfway between DMT and DPT, which are both pretty explosive in that regard.

And yeah, I'll definitely be writing a detailed report of both my 4-HO-McPT and 4-HO-EPT experiences, once I take them.
 
I'm super tempted to try 4-HO-McPT tonight. Either that, or 4-HO-EPT. I ate a tyramine-free diet today just in case I decided to do 4-HO-McPT, if there is any validity to the speculation that it might be an MAOI.

It's both terrifying and extremely enticing to take a substance with no known reports of human use.

Good luck either way! I am eagerly awaiting your opinion on both of them. :D Good move with the diet too, best to be as safe as possible. You might even want to try approaching things slowly, like stay on it for a few more days at least, and start back with small amounts of the trigger foods just to make sure they don't make you feel weird. Based on people who tried McPT not reporting problems like this I'm guessing it might really not be that bad, especially since it's just one dose, but, you know, just to be safe with these early trials.

And I know exactly what you mean! I totally got that with the 4-HO-EPT, it's a pretty unique feeling. It really makes me wonder, even more than I ever already have, what Dr. Shulgin's life must have been like. Certainly it was one beyond compare....

Yeah being a real guinea pig is kinda exciting. I'd say go for the McPT but that's just because I really want to read an account of it. If you do could you try to write a TR?

I've got DOF and DOiP that I am going to try sometime... DoIP has some minimal reports but nothing conclusive, but I can't find anything on DOF, just that it might be a simple stimulant, and it probably has a much higher dose than other DOXs. And that it could be turned into DOEF somehow, which sounds like a fantastic substance.

I also have MPT, I'm unaware of any TRs on that, I think I'm going to try it soon.

EDIT: I also have some MiPT on the way as of now! Pretty excited about that, Kaleida's report and a few others have me really wanting to give it a go. :) I love both 5-MeO-MiPT and 4-HO-MiPT.

Definitely seconded on the trip report! ;)

I forgot about the DOF, I would like to know what you think of that too. I'm still waiting for some reports on DOiP for mine too.... I'm too chicken to jump blindly into that one, but I'm looking forward to hearing what you think lol.

And awesome about the MiPT! Definitely excited to know what you think about that one too, I think there's some real promise there. The report on Erowid called "The Goddess Effect" is one in particular that seems like it's really touching upon the same magic I felt.

MPT theoretically should be a really powerful ego-annihilator, considering that it's structurally halfway between DMT and DPT, which are both pretty explosive in that regard.

For what it's worth, 4-HO-MPT certainly is for me, with every dose I've taken so far, though none more so than 50 mg. That trip is the only one I've had on anything so far that rocked me in that way on a level that felt as intense and satisfying as high doses of LSD.
 
Be careful guys when trying all those novel substances, I don't want anything bad to happen <3
 
Well, damnit. I'm really disappointed. Talk about getting blueballed.

I took 22 mg 4-HO-EPT, and proceeded to have the most wonderfully tranquil and ethereal come-up I've ever experienced on a 4-substituted tryptamine, which seemed to be leading me into some blissful psychedelic waking dream... which never happened.

Ugh. What I really want to do right now is weigh up a massive capsule of 4-HO-EPT and jump right off the deep end, but that would be reckless for a couple reasons: first, I think I should exercise more caution with novel research psychedelics; second, I would have to take more to compensate for tolerance, and I don't want to waste expensive and rare compounds.

But I'll be fucked if I'm not REALLY curious about what this does when it reaches about 4 or 5 times the intensity of what I felt tonight. I might blast off on DMT just to get rid of my psychedelic hard-on. =D

It really makes me wonder, even more than I ever already have, what Dr. Shulgin's life must have been like. Certainly it was one beyond compare....

I think we should all aspire to be Dr. Shulgins of our own. Not that we should all become psychedelic chemists; but in the words of one of my mentors, everybody is a genius at being themselves. Everybody has something unique to offer the world, which is of a quality that nobody else can achieve, whether it's an artistic talent, a scientific discovery, or even a sense of humor. Someday someone will think to themselves, "I wonder what Kaleida's life must have been like."

Be careful guys when trying all those novel substances, I don't want anything bad to happen <3

It's too bad I wasn't a bit more reckless, because I'd be having a blast. ;)
 
Somehow I'm not too interested in trying new psychedelics at the moment, I will let you guys do the research and then try only the best ones. :D

I only order from domestic vendors because of strict customs in Finland so they aren't available for me anyway.
 
^I'm not feeling adventurous either lately... Though to be honest, me and tryptamines aren't comfy bedfellows. Even so, I also haven't gotten around to 5-meo-mipt, DOC, 2C-P, 2C-E, AMT, 5-meo-dmt and some others I have that I'm sure I've forgotten. I'm feeling old and reclusive lately. I've been withdrawing from my friends and family, I don't know what it is.

Anyways, hopefully I'll get around to some of those. aMT is probably the highest on my list... but we'll see.
 
I recommend 5-meo-mipt and especially DOC! aMT I tried only 30mg so I don't really know what its all about.

Vaporizing 5-meo-mipt was fun, I went overboard with it though and vaporized over 50mg over the night + all the alcohol and weed. Fun but dangerous.
 
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