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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Euphoric Rambles for Swirling Souls

3 hits of some actual 90+~ µg LSD hits.. :)

It was a little disappointing that I drank a lot of beer way early on, going of a walk and getting to buy some hash then going on the thrill ride was really nice and watching children enjoy themselves on a very classic ride was incredibly touching to me, lots of nostalgia though usually the whole fair-scene turns me off but I was fine tonight. I watched Mozart and the Whale for the first time and liked it, also nostalgia as I had been meaning to watch it with my then-girlfriend... :)

Right now watching an old Charlie Chaplin, Modern Times which is another sort of trip xD.

I have some experience in the psychedelics and amusement rides department, once as part of a domestic forum of trippy-headed party-goers, I went to a really faitytale-like park on 2C-B and nitrous etc among other things which was a really weird day.. and also have been to six flags on acid before which was amazing.
I think this old scene of 5-10 years ago is meeting up again one very last time around novemer... it would be really nostalgic to go

I hope you're having a nice nice weekend? :) <3
 
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That does sound really nice, I can imagine being really nostalgic while tripping in that kind of place too. :) Wow, I never thought to watch a silent film on psychedelics, but that actually does sound really interesting haha. I've never seen that one (or any really), but I'm looking into it now and it actually sounds pretty interesting.... Definitely going to have to check that out!

That 2C-B+others at the fairytale park sounds great haha. Especially since it was as a group! I'd love to do something like that one day with the right people/area. Six Flags on acid sounds intense too, I've known a few people to do that. I actually met someone once who supposedly went to Fright Fest after eating a bunch of peyote buttons. 8( I guess whatever floats your boat lol.

My weekend's going nice, thanks. <3 I work through the weekend so it's more like a weekday for me, but I'm off work now and relaxing with a bowl. :) I'm trying to savor it because I think I'm going to take tomorrow off (from smoking) before my trip on Monday.... Getting more excited about that every minute! :D

Glad to hear you're having a good weekend too, xammy!
 
I'm extremely glad I made the choice to stir up a little swirl-pool with 4-AcO-DPT tonight. <3 It's been exactly a season since I last tripped.

In light of the presidential debate, I've been thinking about the election. Trump support represents the impulse of anger; he is seen by his supporters as a vehicle for the violent destruction of a political system that people want to believe they are victimized by. People that place the blame for their own poor economic status on bad government policy want Trump to take a knife to the establishment. They're not wrong; he absolutely would, because he really hasn't a clue about politics. The problem is, you can't just bomb the White House to make a positive change -- to create a true revolution, you must have made a carefully and lovingly crafted plan for the new system that will take its place!

You can call Clinton corrupt, or evil. You can wildly disagree with her political philosophy. But she has one thing that Trump doesn't have, and that's a shred of sanity. The best we can do is to hope that, once she's in charge of the fate of America, she will wield that sanity for the sake of good, not evil.


Haiku time: (not politically motivated)

The weight of your burden
is the strength required to bear it
and the feat to prevail
 
sanity, so called, is what got us here, in this surreal cordon sanitaire of sane worry about the stock market or social media or political correctness or whatever else; we retreat from madness, collective, societal madness, only by a measure of control that dehumanizes us for in some sense there is that spark of madness, or original sin, in all of us. whenever I've come back to sane sterility after visiting a third world country or a festival or doing a drug deal or whatever else that takes us outside the cordon, I feel the falsehoods and illusions all around me and their fragility. as Yeats had it, after a truly apocalyptic world War,
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

what rough beast indeed. do we chose sterility, emptiness, castration, and submission to the status quo, or madness? I'll pick madness. I've been in war torn countries with bombs going off. I've had shots fired at me in anger, I've been pistol whipped, zip tied to a chair, hooded with a black pillowcase, and given a mock execution during a home invasion. I've slept on the streets not knowing where I'm going next. I've held felony weight with the red and blue behind me. madness all. but I was a human being. no automaton.

the New World Order is exactly this; sterility, castration, submission, thought reform, trading our humanity for a safe space and our birthright for a bourgeois lifestyle. that's what Hilary and her ilk are about. it's Satanic, it's wickedness beyond any scope of imagination. these are unbelievably wicked people who want to redefine the entire world, to lull us into a false ontology that's really ideology; we do so already when we call men women and women men and when we make thoughts and opinions crimes and equate them with hate and when we radically change the very definition of a social universal such as marriage; when we'll jump through any possible hoop and discard Ockham's razor wholly when we're presented with any evidence that goes against the prevailing dogma (different predispositions of various types in various groups varying with reliable statistical significance rather than the outmoded but politically correct idea of the tabula rasa, or that every child should expect college, or whatever.)

all of these are cold hard counterfactual beliefs. but they're presented in a slick and sane manner that makes it seem the only way, the only right way, the only safe way. it's Brave New World; read your Huxley, it's happening, and Hilary is its public face. The shocking thing is that educated intelligent people buy into this but then again this is not so shocking as the very wicked ideologies that created this whole mess permeated our educational system generations ago.

We as a society are at a turning point. arguably were already totalitarian. it can get worse. I just hope there's enough madness left to disrupt the process before it becomes inevitable. if a madman is running, elect the madman, because sanity as we're calling it today is going to be our downfall. society needs more chaos, hunger, violence, death, decay, all that; we've forgotten or humanity as we're so detached from it. no wonder people find religion, classical literature art, music &c., things which have been considered eternal for centuries or millenia, irrelevant today. we're not even living like human beings anymore. the world might as well have already ended. and ironically to come back from that brink will only happen when we find ourselves on another. but we will. the center cannot hold! one day we'll get our humanity back. today Trump, buffoon though he may be, may be our best option (the supposed huge scandal of his off color remarks about women recorded accidentally contains no material anyone who's ever hung out with the dudes in a a titty-bar or been in a locker room hasn't heard; so really, this out to humanize Trump, over the inhuman Hilary, who may honestly not exist but as an avatar for the interests of, for lack of a better term and although this one is fraught, the New World Order.)

From a post I made in the art thread a while ago, very relevant

Futile%20Cleaning%20of%20that%20Pesky%20Human%20Stain.jpg


William Harris, Futile Cleaning of that Pesky Human Stain, ink on linen, 40x30"

[Harris] says; “My painting Futile Cleaning portrays individuals covering, cleaning, and blotting out the light that shines upon them. It's based on some artistic aspirations of Ad Reinhardt, who said, My painting represents the victory of the forces of darkness and peace over the powers of light and evil … With his intentions and work in mind, my painting sheds light on one way we seek to discard the human element - trying to block out and cover up any light that shines on it.” He is turning the abstract painter Ad Reinhart, famed for claiming that he was “making the last paintings anyone could paint” on his head! He is telling a reportedly great and famous artist, in a sophisticated way only another painter can; “Jamb It!” Yet, does anyone notice? Is anyone buying Williams work for six figures? Not yet, but hey the guy is only 31, still young for an artist of serious artistic ambition.

Floyd Alsbach, Stuckist Painter and Critic, On Conservative Culture and the Arts


My painting represents the victory of the forces of darkness and peace over the powers of light and evil

The way that I read this is: darkness and peace means that we can pacify the world, create a peaceful, but totalitarian and unenlightened society, unquestioning of authority, uninquisitive in general; or we can be aware of ourselves and each other, but this necessarily involves the evils that humanity has always experienced. Of course these are two extremes, but there's a lot to be said for our society heading towards the former—mesmerized and pacified by popular entertainments, strong and coercive laws, and such to the detriment of human nature, which is fundamentally evil (in the Christian sense, or in any sense that you want to take it, that humanity has throughout it's history been marked by wars and other evils) but also has "light," whereby we can enlighten ourselves and do other than evil; whereas in the society of "darkness and peace" we have lost the "light" for the sake of a permanent peace, sacrificing our true nature, with it's infinite possibilities (see Genesis 3, "the tree of knowledge of good and evil" was the "apple" that Adam and Eve ate, giving them the dual nature of mankind that we have today) and free will. Without that, we may have peace, but not humanity.
 
My weekend's going nice, thanks. <3 I work through the weekend so it's more like a weekday for me, but I'm off work now and relaxing with a bowl. :) I'm trying to savor it because I think I'm going to take tomorrow off (from smoking) before my trip on Monday.... Getting more excited about that every minute! :D

Glad to hear it! You too sammy, and all you guys..

Oh 4-AcO-DPT tac? Exotic... doesn't sound very potent but on the other hand quite quite nice..

Trump certainly represents the voice of anger and protest, pretending that he stands for the people like populists do. And they have a lot of good points about what is wrong. Sadly though, like many other populists, his "solutions" are not really that workable and realistic and he regularly shows that he is not qualified to actually go to work on it. Actually it's not true that populists can't keep playing the victim role even when elected... shit still would go all kinds of wrong and he can just keep blaming others like establishment, minorities and the scapegoat of the day.

Clinton is dirty and a nightmare of uncanny valley, but if you look into her 'scandals' there isn't really that much malignant wrongdoing. Trump's scandals however are actually very bad and would translate to much more horrible things for the country. Maybe Clinton perhaps is likely to uphold the corrupt elite parts of the system, nepotism and plenty more suspicious relations... and unfortunately wouldn't be someone to fight for and save the country. But everything Trump does and says screams that he is nefariously dirty and fucked up, rather than playing the system with corruption and the lies typical for a politician he is secretly very self-serving and would not fix issues but create them.

The president has limited power, and the administration would do their best to moderate what they say and do - also I'm sure congress / the senate put a huge limit on the power of the president... but his administration would probably have to clean up shitstorms after Trump 24/7. How do you think other world leaders appreciate him representing the country?

Maybe something here and there sounds good if you're shortsighted, but doesn't work that way in the long run, like the adverse effects of alienating immigrants. And a lot of other people are just running some kind of business and only care for the promises Trump makes and the consequences for their business. So what, they rather gamble with Trump than are more assured of limited benefits Clinton promises?

Think of the kind of gamble you'd be making though. Lazy people not planning to vote at all, as if it's not worth trying to avoid the much worse of two evils.
 
SKL, I don't understand what you mean when you say, "the outmoded but politically correct idea of the tabula rasa, or that every child should expect college, or whatever."

I cannot deny that Hillary Clinton is indeed the face of the New World Order, and I agree that we've been trading , "
sterility, castration, submission, thought reform, trading our humanity for a safe space and our birthright for a bourgeois lifestyle." This is the first year I've bothered to register to vote even though I could have many years ago, because to be quite frank, I see Mr. Trump as something holistically more insane. His world view is of instead reforming society, to oppress all he can and sit on top of them with all his buddies and live that bourgeois lifestyle at all our expenses.

While I hate to admit that my vote will be for the Democrats, it's because I see no other choice. We've all been boxed into a corner, where it's either we follow Mr. Trump to our untimely doom and watch as everything falls apart around us, or we follow Hillary and watch as we're being fooled into thinking things aren't falling apart around us. This white house race has been the most despicable of all time. No one vehemently supports either party anymore in their right mind, but what choice have we? Everyone has to look at all the evil and decide for themselves which is the evil they want to live with. Me? I'm going to hopefully live with Clinton's tyranny rather than support the systematic destruction of our country. I know you (SKL) feel passionately that Hillary and the Democrats want to tear down all the morals and mores of many millennia of social evolution, and while I mostly agree, I believe that some amount of what you so hate in this neo-liberalism is alright, sometimes even good. If it weren't for Obama's health care act, I wouldn't be able to go to the doctor right now. If I up and got deathly sick, the Republicans would rather I died than got the care I needed to live. I cannot support someone who wishes me dead. I'm not bothered in the least that two men or two women can get married; I know that for many, it's primarily a matter of semantics, that marriage is a sacrament not to be soiled by the nastiness of homosexuality. I can understand that, but perhaps if y'all (y'all being general) had approached it more in that manner rather than just hooping and hollering that homo's were evil and need to be shut out of society, you maybe, just maybe could have had your way. I hate the political justice warriors just as much as you, believe me. Safe spaces, trigger warnings? What is this fucking bullshit? Society shou;ldn't be obligated to protect you from your own damned demons. I get uncomfortable evety time I see someone trying to kill themselves in a movie or book, because I once wanted to and tried to off myself... but I buck the fuck up and get over it, because that's how life is. Those people who support that need to ask themselves what the purpose of higher education is. Have they ever even considered how one gets over a traumatic event??! You face it right the fuck down! Hiding from your problems achieves nothing... and it truly is sad that the youth now (God I hope somehow I'm considered a generation ahead of them) believe that by hiding from their fears, they'll never have to get over them. This is where the pussification of society is happening and it disgusts me more than any, any other thing going on in this country right now. That's saying a lot, because the drug war sure as hell bothers me... but this? This is just downright absurd, and this is where Huxley's Brave New World​ is becoming our reality.

Clinton is dirty and a nightmare of uncanny valley, but if you look into her 'scandals' there isn't really that much malignant wrongdoing. Trump's scandals however are actually very bad and would translate to much more horrible things for the country. Maybe Clinton perhaps is likely to uphold the corrupt elite parts of the system, nepotism and plenty more suspicious relations... and unfortunately wouldn't be someone to fight for and save the country. But everything Trump does and says screams that he is nefariously dirty and fucked up, rather than playing the system with corruption and the lies typical for a politician he is secretly very self-serving and would not fix issues but create them.

I agree with you Solipses, and said as much in different words above.
 
Yeah sounded agreeable :)

Is there no such thing as boycotting the voting so much that they have to start all over with the whole election process? It seems insane that one of the candidates can win with devastating approval ratings. The only other option I guess is to sit out 4 years with a president who doesn't really destroy the country, and hope next elections Wiener runs ;p

Just empathizing of course: I don't live there... although the president election can possibly have consequences that reach across the ocean.

My tested 2C-T-2 came back as T-2 but an unknown substance was found as well and they didn't give purity :\ ... well if it's unknown to them that does point to a precursor or byproduct rather than a psychoactive that may be counterindicated, but I guess I'll have to go extra slow with it.
 
My tested 2C-T-2 came back as T-2 but an unknown substance was found as well and they didn't give purity :\ ... well if it's unknown to them that does point to a precursor or byproduct rather than a psychoactive that may be counterindicated, but I guess I'll have to go extra slow with it.
Sounds sketchy man. I'm jealous you've got some 2C-T-2, always wanted to try it, but I certainly don't envy the fact your product is impure :(
 
Yeah weird thing is I traded it and was told it contains 2C-T-21 as the impurity but that was not what was found. How the hell do you contaminate it with 2C-T-21 anyway hehe. It's about 5+ years old but I believe drugs like 2C-X and even the 2C-T-x are rather stable and that the impurity is not a degradation product.

The DOC that I submitted a while back also contained DMA.

I guess it helps to check what kind of intermediates etc are formed especially in the last 1 or 2 steps... but it doesn't necessarily have to be a very significant amount of impurity and in the case of DMA it's not active anyway in nearly the same range and not toxic. No idea what the cutoff is for the amount of impurity found, since technically almost all samples are extremely likely to contain some impurity but the question is what is significant?
I am a bit in doubt about taking the 2C-T-2 because it's not really a drug to fuck with whatsoever, but at the same time don't expect terrible things to be in there. If I take it I would go slow and start low.

Buying an RC stim seems so much worse. Yeah not an argument to take impure drugs but still it can't hurt to ask how bad is it in absolute and in relative terms.
 
My friend and most frequent tripping partner has a full weekend off from his band for the first time since much earlier this year, and he reminded me that I have DOPr... so we're gonna take a full dose of it this weekend. :) I'm thinking 5 or 6mg. Pretty excited, my low-dose trial was intriguing and the available reports of full doses sound fascinating. I have more experience with DOC than almost any other psychedelic, so I'm not too concerned about the possibly 30 hour time span. Well, maybe a little. ;)
 
My synopsis of the presidential race is this: Trump's vision for America, from his own mouth (not to mention whatever it is he hasn't said), is one I vehemently oppose. The kind of stuff he says about Muslims reminds me of things Hitler used to get into power. He deliberately incites rage in people who are so inclined. At the Trump rally here in town, my friend went and heard him say something to the effect of, use violence against Muslims you see in our country until they leave. I'll pay your legal bills. She dressed as a Muslim to the rally to try to make a point and she was spit on, shoved, screamed at, and this guy who had previously punched out a guy and slapped his wife tried to throw her down the stairs, and they let that guy stay and threw her out. As much as Clinton represents the status quo, which is also bad and needs to change, at least the status quo does not include a descent into that. It's utterly disgusting to me, completely morally abhorrent. My biggest issue used to be that he has no political experience at all (which by the way is a great reason to take issue), but it's been totally subsumed by the terrifying level of hatred he seems to have and even moreso that he seems intent on inspiring in people.

Fortunately I don't really think he can win. No democrat is going to vote for him, nor anyone unaffiliated. The only people that will vote for him are Republicans, but he's so insane and extreme that he's divided that party to the point that plenty won't vote for him.
 
Thank you all for adding some very thoughtful words to this discussion.

sanity, so called, is what got us here, in this surreal cordon sanitaire of sane worry about the stock market or social media or political correctness or whatever else; we retreat from madness, collective, societal madness, only by a measure of control that dehumanizes us for in some sense there is that spark of madness, or original sin, in all of us. whenever I've come back to sane sterility after visiting a third world country or a festival or doing a drug deal or whatever else that takes us outside the cordon, I feel the falsehoods and illusions all around me and their fragility.
Hmm... I think you may be hitting on something quite profound. To truly live, you must accept everything life brings, from the roses to the reaper. You can't choose to live in a world of only pleasantries.

I've been in war torn countries with bombs going off. I've had shots fired at me in anger, I've been pistol whipped, zip tied to a chair, hooded with a black pillowcase, and given a mock execution during a home invasion. I've slept on the streets not knowing where I'm going next. I've held felony weight with the red and blue behind me. madness all.
You have certainly been around the block!

the New World Order is exactly this; sterility, castration, submission, thought reform, trading our humanity for a safe space and our birthright for a bourgeois lifestyle. that's what Hilary and her ilk are about. it's Satanic, it's wickedness beyond any scope of imagination.
Is it truly wicked? Or is it an unwitting mistake with the best of intentions? You can't really blame people for wanting to feel included, and for enjoying their bourgeois lifestyles.

we call men women and women men
Should gender be determined by the physical form of your body, or your intuitive sense of self? I think the latter.

we radically change the very definition of a social universal such as marriage
Why should the definition of a social universal remain constant?

Safe spaces, trigger warnings? What is this fucking bullshit? Society shou;ldn't be obligated to protect you from your own damned demons. I get uncomfortable evety time I see someone trying to kill themselves in a movie or book, because I once wanted to and tried to off myself... but I buck the fuck up and get over it, because that's how life is. Those people who support that need to ask themselves what the purpose of higher education is. Have they ever even considered how one gets over a traumatic event??! You face it right the fuck down! Hiding from your problems achieves nothing... and it truly is sad that the youth now (God I hope somehow I'm considered a generation ahead of them) believe that by hiding from their fears, they'll never have to get over them. This is where the pussification of society is happening and it disgusts me more than any, any other thing going on in this country right now. That's saying a lot, because the drug war sure as hell bothers me... but this? This is just downright absurd, and this is where Huxley's Brave New World​ is becoming our reality.
I agree that we shouldn't censor unpleasant topics, but I wonder if it's even really possible in the first place. Yeah, your school teachers might neuter their speech with political correctness, but... real talk goes around in the locker room. ;)

Fortunately I don't really think he can win. No democrat is going to vote for him, nor anyone unaffiliated. The only people that will vote for him are Republicans, but he's so insane and extreme that he's divided that party to the point that plenty won't vote for him.
That's my assessment too.



Oh 4-AcO-DPT tac? Exotic... doesn't sound very potent but on the other hand quite quite nice..
It's really threatening to take the throne from LSD, as my favorite psychedelic. :) I hear it's virtually subjectively identical to 4-HO-DPT.
 
I agree with a lot of what you say SKL, but I don't understand the issue you have with gender roles. Have you always felt this way or does it come from your religion, since I know you converted to Catholicism? I'm honestly really curious because from your posts it's entirely evident you have a problem with it and consider it some great evil or something, likewise with man/woman marriage. I was just wondering how you felt about it before. Is this feeling entirely based upon adhering to religious dictates, or is it more?
 
Hey guys, if anyone here is interested I posted another report for 4-HO-EPT, this time at 40 mg. It can be found here:

(4-HO-EPT/40 mg) - Second Time - Finding the Complexities

It's a little lazier than my previous report, but there's still a good amount of information in it. I'm definitely very happy with this one so far, can't wait to do some more exploring in the future. :)
 

Niiiice

Edit: Anyone know where I could read all the top news since late August? I'm supposed to have been keeping up to date with world news for a course of mine, haven't been, and now need to catch up literally 100%. I don't watch nor listen to the news or mainstream media whatsoever, nor follow on reddit, etc. due to not caring to read about all the violence, hate, etc. going on.
 
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