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Update at T+11:00. I'm still at +1 with visual enhancements, body high, etc.. The trip peaked at a solid +2 with some good CEVs and good color and visual detail enhancement with eyes open. From what I experienced, I believe this will be a highly visual substance at 6mg+.

This 4mg went a long way. I was apprehensive going into this. For one thing, I expected 4 mg would bring a lot more body effects than 2 mg. For another, I worried that the ++ level at 4 mg would be awkward and uncomfortable for the many hours this substance lasts.

Right after I posted above at T+1:15, I felt the first significant wave, which was very euphoric. And then it just kept building in waves of "heart energy" and euphoria through T+5:00, after which it began a very gradual decline. Body load was minimal for me at this dose, which bodes very well for taking it higher. At the same time, the intensity of the experience was really off-the-charts when considering the tactile and emotional euphoria. It was luscious and exhilarating. Admittedly I'm a bit intimidated by going to 6 mg just because of that intensity, and I certainly wouldn't want to get on the "bad side" of this substance. That said, I've pretty much always been able to stay on the "good side" of 2C-E, so I may just be unusually compatible with these substances.

My partner joined me later, matching my peak with 15 mg of 2C-D. She's such a lightweight these days, I was surprised that we under-dosed her a bit, but she said she got along very well with the 2C-D and will try more next time.

All and all, this was an incredible day with an incredible substance. It may indeed displace 2C-E and mescaline (tied) as my favorite psychedelic substances. Though, it does come with the cost of having to devote an entire day (and then some) to the experience. I also wonder if has a bit less depth than 2C-E (and mescaline) in terms of guidance and insight. While I engaged in plenty of introspection today, nothing really pulled me in, and I mostly felt hedonistic. I will need to be well prepared for my 6 mg trial, and I doubt I will ever take this stuff higher than 8 mg. Even that seems like it would be insane.
 
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If it weren't for the long duration, I'd be much more inclined to try 2C-P. Currently I find even 8 h+ a bit much and I'm fortunate (or unfortunate) to lean towards the shorter duration as far as metabolism goes. It does seem like a tamer 2C-E, provided dosing is strictly controlled.

I don't know how sensitive your wife is, but what I found interesting about 2C-D is that at least for me it is distinctly psychedelic over a very wide range of doses, including the lower end of 15 mg. And unlike 2C-E, the dose-response curve is pretty much linear so it really takes some increases to get out of the more subtle "tofu" region (I still think this nickname is a disservice to that wonderful compound).

Talking about short psychedelics, I intend to get my hands on some diethyltryptamine in the coming weeks. I have a feeling I may fit really well to it, after all it was recommended years ago to me by a more tryptamine-aligned friend. Funnily he said I had a phenethylamine character, whatever that means, when we met. And I'd agree to say he has a tryptamine character, whatever that means.

On a funny side note, I like to compare phenethylamines and tryptamines to dogs and cats respectively. The phenethylamines are loyal and always a good soul, while the tryptamines can have a mind of their own, be mischievous, etc. For the most part this reflects both in their qualitative experience as well as their chemistry.
 
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With 2C-B, 2C-E, and mescaline over the last year, she got higher than I did even though she took ~3/4s of the doses I did. I'm guessing she now needs around 2/3s as much as me to get to the same place, and I consider myself very average and not a hard-head at all with regard to these drugs.

I'm going to try 2C-D again soon at 30 mg, maybe with her now. Unfortunately, every 2C-D experience I had at 20mg and above involved very uncomfortable body load during the first 1.5-2 hours or so. I put it down to individual chemistry or whatever.

Also, I love the analogy but I'm actually a cat person more than a dog person despite generally preferring phenethylamines over tryptamines. Go figure!
 
I'm going to try 2C-D again soon at 30 mg, maybe with her now. Unfortunately, every 2C-D experience I had at 20mg and above involved very uncomfortable body load during the first 1.5-2 hours or so. I put it down to individual chemistry or whatever.
Yeah, sucks that it has such a bodyload for you. For me I only ever get some tension in the neck, and if I have to sit in public transportation my back starts to hurt - I don't get the latter on other psychedelics I think. Also no post-trip headaches. If I didn't knew already you get strong bodyload from 2C-D I would have recommended it to you precisely for being so gentle when you were unsure of what to take. I wonder what causes the difference in response. I think you are a bit of an outlier, most people do not report much bodyload.

Also, I love the analogy but I'm actually a cat person more than a dog person despite generally preferring phenethylamines over tryptamines. Go figure!
I'd love to have a cat but I'm allergic to them. Metaphorically I approach tryptamines in much the same way 🤣 But next to the DMT which I have been vaping here and there in the last few weeks, I actually plan to do some more tryptamines in the foreseeable future.
 
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