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My salvia and oral cannabis experiments continue, I don't have anything overly crazy to say about it right now like before but I really do love these drugs.

Yesterday I finally smoked salvia again for the first time since my last post on it, I smoked the rest of what I had in the tray from those experiments which was about half a bowl of plain leaf. Something I should say that I forgot to mention in my prior post which applies to both salvia and oral cannabis is that when I have that little "breathe in" or "breathe out" pause which seems to signify first reaching the peak of the experience, that does seem to be accurately like how the experience begins, but also that will keep happening every so often for a little while until the experience dissipates, it's not like a one-and-done thing, but instead feels more like there's a pinwheel spinning in my mind and every time I get back to the same blade I started spinning on it causes me to have to go over that hump again so to speak, and it generally gets weaker each time, although not necessarily every time. I assume the number of times it happens in total may also relate to the specific dosage I use and how long it takes for the neural activity causing that effect to return to baseline levels. So this time with salvia, I had that same effect right at the beginning like with my past times, although I had learned from my previous few trips to let go of the anxiety I had about smoking it when approaching that initial point in the first place, and suddenly that peak did feel very weak and was over very quickly, passing almost like background noise I barely even noticed (again though, this is notably only with like half a bowl of plain leaf, not some high-strength extract or something). Instead, the trip was more focused on the rest of the effects like visuals and body buzz, which came on more slowly and settled in for longer.

At the beginning the visuals were notably alike psychedelic geometries, although they weren't that strong or vivid, but I would have considered them notably smooth and opaque if they had occurred on a serotonergic psychedelic. There is a somewhat technological aspect to their style that reminds me of things like LSD, 2C-x molecules, and some synthetic base tryptamines in particular more so than in things like mushrooms or DMT. These genuine geometric visuals were either over quick or didn't hold my attention for very long. Because I wasn't feeling particularly overwhelmed or dissociated like I was more used to at the beginning of salvia trips, I got up and went back inside (smoking outside only at the rental house I'm currently staying at) and went to lay on my bed. Another very interesting opposite parallel between salvia and my oral cannabis experiences occurred at this point. A few days before this, I had taken 30 mg of Δ9-THC orally and laid on this same bed, and suddenly had one of those bursts of activity with my "breathing out" effect I noticed, and it kind of felt like my perception of the bed suddenly popped like a bubble, and left in its wake was a new perception of the bed which made it feel like it was all made of a luscious pink fur, which it is nowhere near as comfy as in real life, and I laid there stroking it and rolling my face in it as if it actually was made of that material and it really felt comfortable in the way that I would expect it to if it were. Now, a few days later, as I jumped down on the same bed after smoking salvia, I felt a similar burst of activity that replaced my perception of the real bed with something from a fantasy, but in this case, the bed was replaced with something that felt more like a deep, blood red bed made of spikes all coming up at me, although it didn't hurt to lie on, just felt a little quirky psychologically. In retrospect, I find this similar to when I took 50 mg of MALT orally - a drug I also unusually strongly related to salvia the first time I smoked 50 mg - and started hallucinating the carpet at my old apartment to look like a mountain range that I was floating over, with all the tops of mountains seeming to be sticking out and pointing up to me like stalagmites, and looking not unlike the spiky blood red bed I was seeing in my mind's eye now.

I ended up just rolling around in bed getting lost in thought and listening to music for a while, and interestingly, at a certain point around twenty minutes in I mistakenly thought that I was just very high on cannabis, before having to remind myself that I was actually on salvia and hadn't used any cannabis yet that day. The buzz was fascinatingly similar at that point, it really felt a lot like I had just smoked some good cannabis and treated the experience in the same way, except that my mental imagery was still different in a way that was also still similar to cannabis, like some human imagery in my mind's eye that was mostly female on salvia but would have been mostly male typically on the same type of cannabis high, something I've also noted about them before. This lasted a good while, as it was almost two hours after that that I actually ingested any cannabis, and I still felt nicely buzzed by the time that happened, not tripping in any way I can immediately remember but enjoying it for sure. At that point, I decided to eat 50 mg of Δ9-THC in edibles, and go smoke a bowl of cannabis while I waited for it to kick in. I remember that bowl synergizing well with the lingering salvia high and wondering how smoking blue lotus might mix with those things as well, but I don't think this smoked high had much of an impact on the later edible high when it kicked in (I've generally felt like I'm able to tell them apart, even while on both).

The oral cannabis was the real standout even of the day for me, although like the salvia, it also came on more subtly than before. I felt my first "breathe out" pause moment about forty-five minutes after eating the gummies, but it was kind of disappointingly weak, and I was afraid that I had spoiled it by smoking a bowl before it could kick in, but I think maybe I was just expecting it too much or something (which in my experience often lessens trippy experiences of multiple kinds). A few minutes later another one came, feeling a little bit better but still not too crazy. I remember getting some light colorful bursts in my mind's eye but nothing that stood out enough to clearly remember. A few more minutes later one happened that I do remember and wrote down, I was looking at the window in the living room for it and it felt like the blinds and wall suddenly became covered in psychedelic patterns for a brief moment, although I do say "felt like" because as is common for me with cannabis visuals, they were sort of in this weird place where they really do look like what visuals look like when it feels like I'm seeing them with my normal eyes like normal sight, but they often take place in my mind's eye instead even though still being placed on my external environment, which is the same kind of thing that happened with the aforementioned pink furry bed visual, and I think may also be similar to when people say that "feel" rather than see salvia visuals, which I can also compare to the spiky red bed experience that felt fundamentally similar to that. The thing that really did it for me though finally came at just before an hour after eating the gummies, which I now consider to be more like the real peak, and it was beautiful. Suddenly, I saw very colorful flashing little dots of light shooting up my entire field of vision like psychedelic fireworks suddenly obscuring everything I could see behind them in a grande finale with several all at once or in quick succession, and when they reached the top part of my field of vision they did actually burst into realistic firework-style patterns, but once they had fully bloomed out like that, rather than just fading away into the background, they suddenly solidified into realistic flower visuals with completely realistic colors and textures in the middle part and the petals, which would then gently spin for a moment, before their colors starting smearing out and all the imagery sort of just melted into the background and then dissipated into nothing like it was drifting away in the wind, and it was absolutely beautiful, and pretty much all over just a brief moment after it started, as per usual with these kinds of cannabis visuals for me so far.

I had a few more smaller releases after that, one of which did give me a little bit of orgasmic moaning like I mentioned in my previous salvia vs oral cannabis comparison, but not much, and I don't recall anything happening again that was as notable or strong as the aforementioned visual display. Around an hour and a half after dosing I wrote in my notes that it had been a while since I felt a release I thought, although I was feeling a really good high which I at the time felt was perhaps better than any high I normally get from smoking cannabis, although not necessarily that much stronger than it overall, and it was only 50 mg of course. It was a really nice feeling though, I wrote that my eyes felt like they were relaxed to the point that it felt like I could fall asleep even though I wasn't tired in that way and felt comfortable just lying there awake but blissed out. I also ended up making a comparison between the high and an ETH-LAD experience I had on I believe 200 μg(?) (it's been a while since the trip and I don't think I made a report of it) where part of the high felt like I was being bathed in liquid rays of golden sunshine, even though I was just chilling indoors.

As odd as I think this might seem to some, I actually think cannabis may give me my favorite psychedelic visuals on average, or a big proportion of them anyway. The clear caveat is that on cannabis, they are infrequent and only last a brief moment; it's not like I'm going to be drowning in visual distortions for hours upon hours like with serotonergic psychedelics. But, when the visuals come, they're often really nice, cool, and memorable, more so than really almost anything else I've taken I think, even though often in a more down-to-Earth, not necessarily like life-shattering kind of way. It's just a fun experience overall. I'm also starting to wonder if it is that way and so great because it's basically like oral cannabis is like literal Heaven opposite to how salvia is like literal Hell.

Definitely looking forward to more experiments still. Hope everyone else is having good trips too. :)
 
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This is probably my favorite albums of all time by one of my favorite bands NOFX. Ive been listening to this since i was twelve years old and i can never get enough. Flying through the streets on my scooter completely blasted off FXE, doesnt get better than this. Ill be blasting this album till the world falls off its axis.

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Just plugged 250mgs of FXE, first disso in two weeks.

Didnt wanna dose any higher cuz im thinking tolerance might have dropped a bit. Just laying on my stomach for ten mins give it time to absorb. Pretty pumped ive missed my love after this time away ❤️


2 weeks feels like an eternity right?

i've had a cold so i took the week off last week and it seems like it's been years
 
That’s 3/4 of a full tab. I can sleep 😴 on this dose and still feel it’s effects during the day. I had something to say about it earlier but it’s good acid
 
i was doing 3/4 of a hit for a while there


now i do a hit and a half :cool:


but im on a break - so my next time out, im just gonna take 1 hit


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2 weeks feels like an eternity right?

i've had a cold so i took the week off last week and it seems like it's been years

Yeah it felt like forever, but it was worth it cuz i actually got a decent trip this time. When before by the end of the binge i was barely even feeling it. Pretty sure my 25g's of FXE touched down today, im not gonna get to open it until tommorow and im possibly getting a sample of Metonitazepyne, if they included it.

My Sildenafil, Kanna and Tianiptine also arrived so these orders were quite the success for me. Really hope they sent the zene cuz ive been craving opioids heavily. Im gonna be careful and start off low so dont worry guys. Its possible its not even with the FXE anyways they didnt really give me a clear answer when i asked them about it, just a maybe.
 
Yeah it felt like forever, but it was worth it cuz i actually got a decent trip this time. When before by the end of the binge i was barely even feeling it. Pretty sure my 25g's of FXE touched down today, im not gonna get to open it until tommorow and im possibly getting a sample of Metonitazepyne, if they included it.

Congrats on going 2 weeks without! I've been trying to slow my roll with the dissociatives but it sure is hard. I was using them everyday unless I was out. Now I'm using them maybe 3 days a week. Still not good but an improvement is an improvement.

You may be tired of hearing people say this, but they're said because you are cared for. The mention of Metonitazepyne scares me. I just see absolutely nothing good coming from it outside of a fleeting high, but there is SO much bad that can come from it. I hope that you reconsider and decide to toss it. I don't judge, and if I was given a sample of that stuff, I know that I'd have a very hard time getting rid of it (and if I used it I'd definitely end up back into opioid addiction) so I can't blame you if you don't. Truly playing with fire, my friend
 
Congrats on going 2 weeks without! I've been trying to slow my roll with the dissociatives but it sure is hard. I was using them everyday unless I was out. Now I'm using them maybe 3 days a week. Still not good but an improvement is an improvement.

You may be tired of hearing people say this, but they're said because you are cared for. The mention of Metonitazepyne scares me. I just see absolutely nothing good coming from it outside of a fleeting high, but there is SO much bad that can come from it. I hope that you reconsider and decide to toss it. I don't judge, and if I was given a sample of that stuff, I know that I'd have a very hard time getting rid of it (and if I used it I'd definitely end up back into opioid addiction) so I can't blame you if you don't. Truly playing with fire, my friend

Well i got the FXE and it looks beautiful nice huge rocks, and the Meto came also. That one is this brown color it looks pretty wild. And its actually not a fleeting high that and Protnitazpyne both actually have long durations of action unlink the other zenes. Its one of the reasons i was most intrested in these two. Probably gonna try it orally at first but im think i should probably get an oil burner and just vape the stuff...

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Thats the FXE and Metonitazepyne

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This is after i put the FXE away with the rest of my stash, actually had more left than i thought. The bottle on the right is all rocks and then the one on the left has more broken down powder in it, im gonna use that up first.

Update:

Well ive done some uber small doses of Meto, like 1mg bumps spread out an hour apart and only felt a little warmth. Took about 4mgs at this point over the night. Might do a little bit more in a bit.

eff feel some opioid activity, took 3mgs of Buprenorphine in the morning so it could be blocking some. Keeping that in mind im gonna start off low and slow again tommorow ad i get a feel for the stuff.

Once i did a little more, two tiny bumps in each nostril i got nice and high roughly 6mgs, really lovely stuff. Would absolutely not recommend anyone else starting with doses anywhere near this i have very high baseline opioid tolerance with a twenty year habit, as well as being on Buperenorphine daily.

Amazing that i found such a pleasurable opioid i can use and not worry about my drug tests. And its really cheap ontop of it due to its potency, and the fact my vendor offers great bulk deals. Ive found a winner!!!
 
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I’ll be honest with all of you, I have been down taking care of my parents this weekend, but now I’m ready to party. I think I need a new drug. I wish I like dissociatives. I did take some gabapentin and smoked a lot of weed.

It would be great to get all of you together and pass a joint around. But I guess iMessage board will have to do for now.
 
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