My salvia and oral cannabis experiments continue, I don't have anything overly crazy to say about it right now like before but I really do love these drugs.
Yesterday I finally smoked salvia again for the first time since my last post on it, I smoked the rest of what I had in the tray from those experiments which was about half a bowl of plain leaf. Something I should say that I forgot to mention in my prior post which applies to both salvia and oral cannabis is that when I have that little "breathe in" or "breathe out" pause which seems to signify first reaching the peak of the experience, that does seem to be accurately like how the experience begins, but also that will keep happening every so often for a little while until the experience dissipates, it's not like a one-and-done thing, but instead feels more like there's a pinwheel spinning in my mind and every time I get back to the same blade I started spinning on it causes me to have to go over that hump again so to speak, and it generally gets weaker each time, although not necessarily every time. I assume the number of times it happens in total may also relate to the specific dosage I use and how long it takes for the neural activity causing that effect to return to baseline levels. So this time with salvia, I had that same effect right at the beginning like with my past times, although I had learned from my previous few trips to let go of the anxiety I had about smoking it when approaching that initial point in the first place, and suddenly that peak did feel very weak and was over very quickly, passing almost like background noise I barely even noticed (again though, this is notably only with like half a bowl of plain leaf, not some high-strength extract or something). Instead, the trip was more focused on the rest of the effects like visuals and body buzz, which came on more slowly and settled in for longer.
At the beginning the visuals were notably alike psychedelic geometries, although they weren't that strong or vivid, but I would have considered them notably smooth and opaque if they had occurred on a serotonergic psychedelic. There is a somewhat technological aspect to their style that reminds me of things like LSD, 2C-x molecules, and some synthetic base tryptamines in particular more so than in things like mushrooms or DMT. These genuine geometric visuals were either over quick or didn't hold my attention for very long. Because I wasn't feeling particularly overwhelmed or dissociated like I was more used to at the beginning of salvia trips, I got up and went back inside (smoking outside only at the rental house I'm currently staying at) and went to lay on my bed. Another very interesting opposite parallel between salvia and my oral cannabis experiences occurred at this point. A few days before this, I had taken 30 mg of Δ9-THC orally and laid on this same bed, and suddenly had one of those bursts of activity with my "breathing out" effect I noticed, and it kind of felt like my perception of the bed suddenly popped like a bubble, and left in its wake was a new perception of the bed which made it feel like it was all made of a luscious pink fur, which it is nowhere near as comfy as in real life, and I laid there stroking it and rolling my face in it as if it actually was made of that material and it really felt comfortable in the way that I would expect it to if it were. Now, a few days later, as I jumped down on the same bed after smoking salvia, I felt a similar burst of activity that replaced my perception of the real bed with something from a fantasy, but in this case, the bed was replaced with something that felt more like a deep, blood red bed made of spikes all coming up at me, although it didn't hurt to lie on, just felt a little quirky psychologically. In retrospect, I find this similar to when I took 50 mg of MALT orally - a drug I also unusually strongly related to salvia the first time I smoked 50 mg - and started hallucinating the carpet at my old apartment to look like a mountain range that I was floating over, with all the tops of mountains seeming to be sticking out and pointing up to me like stalagmites, and looking not unlike the spiky blood red bed I was seeing in my mind's eye now.
I ended up just rolling around in bed getting lost in thought and listening to music for a while, and interestingly, at a certain point around twenty minutes in I mistakenly thought that I was just very high on cannabis, before having to remind myself that I was actually on salvia and hadn't used any cannabis yet that day. The buzz was fascinatingly similar at that point, it really felt a lot like I had just smoked some good cannabis and treated the experience in the same way, except that my mental imagery was still different in a way that was also still similar to cannabis, like some human imagery in my mind's eye that was mostly female on salvia but would have been mostly male typically on the same type of cannabis high, something I've also noted about them before. This lasted a good while, as it was almost two hours after that that I actually ingested any cannabis, and I still felt nicely buzzed by the time that happened, not tripping in any way I can immediately remember but enjoying it for sure. At that point, I decided to eat 50 mg of Δ9-THC in edibles, and go smoke a bowl of cannabis while I waited for it to kick in. I remember that bowl synergizing well with the lingering salvia high and wondering how smoking blue lotus might mix with those things as well, but I don't think this smoked high had much of an impact on the later edible high when it kicked in (I've generally felt like I'm able to tell them apart, even while on both).
The oral cannabis was the real standout even of the day for me, although like the salvia, it also came on more subtly than before. I felt my first "breathe out" pause moment about forty-five minutes after eating the gummies, but it was kind of disappointingly weak, and I was afraid that I had spoiled it by smoking a bowl before it could kick in, but I think maybe I was just expecting it too much or something (which in my experience often lessens trippy experiences of multiple kinds). A few minutes later another one came, feeling a little bit better but still not too crazy. I remember getting some light colorful bursts in my mind's eye but nothing that stood out enough to clearly remember. A few more minutes later one happened that I do remember and wrote down, I was looking at the window in the living room for it and it felt like the blinds and wall suddenly became covered in psychedelic patterns for a brief moment, although I do say "felt like" because as is common for me with cannabis visuals, they were sort of in this weird place where they really do look like what visuals look like when it feels like I'm seeing them with my normal eyes like normal sight, but they often take place in my mind's eye instead even though still being placed on my external environment, which is the same kind of thing that happened with the aforementioned pink furry bed visual, and I think may also be similar to when people say that "feel" rather than see salvia visuals, which I can also compare to the spiky red bed experience that felt fundamentally similar to that. The thing that really did it for me though finally came at just before an hour after eating the gummies, which I now consider to be more like the real peak, and it was beautiful. Suddenly, I saw very colorful flashing little dots of light shooting up my entire field of vision like psychedelic fireworks suddenly obscuring everything I could see behind them in a grande finale with several all at once or in quick succession, and when they reached the top part of my field of vision they did actually burst into realistic firework-style patterns, but once they had fully bloomed out like that, rather than just fading away into the background, they suddenly solidified into realistic flower visuals with completely realistic colors and textures in the middle part and the petals, which would then gently spin for a moment, before their colors starting smearing out and all the imagery sort of just melted into the background and then dissipated into nothing like it was drifting away in the wind, and it was absolutely beautiful, and pretty much all over just a brief moment after it started, as per usual with these kinds of cannabis visuals for me so far.
I had a few more smaller releases after that, one of which did give me a little bit of orgasmic moaning like I mentioned in my previous salvia vs oral cannabis comparison, but not much, and I don't recall anything happening again that was as notable or strong as the aforementioned visual display. Around an hour and a half after dosing I wrote in my notes that it had been a while since I felt a release I thought, although I was feeling a really good high which I at the time felt was perhaps better than any high I normally get from smoking cannabis, although not necessarily that much stronger than it overall, and it was only 50 mg of course. It was a really nice feeling though, I wrote that my eyes felt like they were relaxed to the point that it felt like I could fall asleep even though I wasn't tired in that way and felt comfortable just lying there awake but blissed out. I also ended up making a comparison between the high and an ETH-LAD experience I had on I believe 200 μg(?) (it's been a while since the trip and I don't think I made a report of it) where part of the high felt like I was being bathed in liquid rays of golden sunshine, even though I was just chilling indoors.
As odd as I think this might seem to some, I actually think cannabis may give me my favorite psychedelic visuals on average, or a big proportion of them anyway. The clear caveat is that on cannabis, they are infrequent and only last a brief moment; it's not like I'm going to be drowning in visual distortions for hours upon hours like with serotonergic psychedelics. But, when the visuals come, they're often really nice, cool, and memorable, more so than really almost anything else I've taken I think, even though often in a more down-to-Earth, not necessarily like life-shattering kind of way. It's just a fun experience overall. I'm also starting to wonder if it is that way and so great because it's basically like oral cannabis is like literal Heaven opposite to how salvia is like literal Hell.
Definitely looking forward to more experiments still. Hope everyone else is having good trips too.
