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[Mr. Krinkle]

i think some experience from a few good panic attacks from weed, makes a rough stretch in a trip a walk in the park

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Although I love weed more now than I ever did, I can fully appreciate its insidious nature.

As far as I'm concerned, cannabis and psychedelics do not mix well - even though they're both classed as hallucinogens...

 

[JackARoe]

Ok I'll bite. I love my weed. Been smoking 45 years with a year or two break for parole piss tests. Give me the most anxiety inducing weed and I will use it for sleep.

I remember even just out of high school a few friends saying they could not smoke weed anymore. I saw it happen to a friend that I smoked with all the time. And everytime he took a few hits while tripping he would get to a real bad place.

Then of course as I aged a lot of people stopped because of anxiety. I also have a few friends that never stopped and know how to grow top shelf.

I am not a big smoker, two hits off a glass pipe after dinner and before bed. Knocks me out.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

It looks like I'm one of the seemingly few that can trip and smoke during the trip and enjoy the experience. We are all wired differently, we all follow the beat of our individual drummer and all have different reactions to this and other experiences.

Even though I tolerate this experience I do not encourage others to do this, especially if one is not accustomed to psychedelic experiences.

(ediited to change "experienced with" to "accustomed to" to reduce redundancy)

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

It looks like I'm one of the seemingly few that can trip and smoke during the trip and enjoy the experience. We are all wired differently, we all follow the beat of our individual drummer and all have different reactions to this and other experiences.

Even though I tolerate this experience I do not encourage others to do this, especially if one is not experienced with psychedelic experiences.

I used to be able to tolerate psychedelics but not cannabis (even though I kept trying).

Now it's the other way round


We ARE definitely all wired differently...

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

im ok with a fat bong rip or 2 at the tail end of an lsd trip nowadays and i was normally doing that before i stopped back in December

i just haven't smoked at the beginning of a trip recently and not really for any particular reason either

but back in my 20s and 30s, i always did and it never caused me any issues with my trip

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

The first time I did this I saw the weed literally growing in the baggie before my wondering eyes. Then the gates opened and I was hit by a wall of fractal colored explosions and patterns brighter than the sun. I liked it!

Only mad dogs and merry pranksters I suppose...

 

[swilow]

i think some experience from a few good panic attacks from weed, makes a rough stretch in a trip a walk in the park

Indeed. One of the most intense drug experiences I ever had was age 19, smoking two enormous hits from a bong after a 4 month break. I was literally seeing geometric patterns oscillating through empty space and than I felt like I'd lost the ability to recognise human faces. My girlfriend looked like a total stranger, just a collection of random holes on this eerie simian skull. The level of panic was simply extraordinary, I wanted to call an ambulance, ha imagine that. I've never experienced that amount of sheer terror on any psychedelic, even very high doses. Anyway, I recovered my wits after what felt like 3 eternities and kept on smoking.

Although my first salvia trip totally rocked me in a similar way.

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Indeed. One of the most intense drug experiences I ever had was age 19, smoking two enormous hits from a bong after a 4 month break. I was literally seeing geometric patterns oscillating through empty space and than I felt like I'd lost the ability to recognise human faces. My girlfriend looked like a total stranger, just a collection of random holes on this eerie simian skull. The level of panic was simply extraordinary, I wanted to call an ambulance, ha imagine that. I've never experienced that amount of sheer terror on any psychedelic, even very high doses. Anyway, I recovered my wits after what felt like 3 eternities and kept on smoking.

Although my first salvia trip totally rocked me in a similar way.

That was just weed?

Hmmm...

Almost makes it worthy of taking a 4 month tolerance break...

 

[swilow]

Just weed and panic. I was always really sensitive to it though, and going through a pretty bad mental health crisis concurrently. Seemed to totally spin me out with genuine flashbacky sort of feelings for months. The first time I smoked (unknown) synthetic cannabinoids had a similarly evil feeling to it, but I came to enjoy that.

 

[Kaleida]

I never had any problems whatsoever with cannabis when I first started using it, but it became highly anxious for me over the course of my first few years with it to the point that I had to force myself to stop using it for around six months. When I went back into it, I started very small and purposefully challenged myself with anxious trips going up slowly with the dosage one trip at a time. Eventually I got to the point where the anxiety means nothing to me, even when I do feel it, although I almost never do, especially with tolerance. To each their own but I'm quite happy that I learned to conquer the anxiety and get back into it. These days I'm back to having no limits or concerns with it whatsoever. I mostly smoke it but I even like things like 100-200+ mg dosages of edibles because of how intense and psychedelic they can get. One of these days I plan to increase the dosage even further than that like one step up every weekend or something like that and write a retrospective trip report about it. I've been looking forward to it for a while but haven't had the opportunity to do it, but I actually will in the relatively near future.

If you are biologically male, I’ve seen some claims that testosterone lowering with age in men can lead to more anxiety, and much greater sensitivity to the negative mental effects of cannabis.
This trend seems to be noticeable with many Bluelighters.

The whole cannabis becoming more anxious over time thing happens with biological females too though. I wouldn't really trust any source that claims to know the exact reason personally. Everyone wants to say "X natural chemical change leads to Y effect" but most of the time we don't really understand our own biology that well.

Cannabis kinda makes me bug out too honestly, like the beginning of the experience isnt super enjoyable but after like 30-45mins i can kinda dig it. This is when i only use it one off every blue moon, when i start doing it all day i dont get the anxiety so bad. But sadly i have Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome which is a legit curse. Because if i even attempt to start using Weed daily even short as a week sometimes i get violently ill.

Like the worse feeling ive ever known even more painful than opioid withdrawals. Legit vomit every thirty mins for 5-7 days, impossible to be comfortable or sleep. Only things that offers slight relief is being in an extremely hot bath, the last time i ran the water bill up in my apartment by hundreds of dollars. Spent by no exaggeration about 14hrs a day in the tub, having to hold my hands and feet out to not be a complete prune.

That fucking sucks bro. This possibility genuinely terrifies me because I used to get physically uncomfortable from cannabis a lot and always found that hot baths would make the discomfort go away, but it never reached the point of vomiting. It kind of seems like that phase passed eventually, thankfully. I really hope it doesn't ever start coming back.

P.S., enjoy the baths on FXE but please be careful. D.M. Turner died from drowning in a bath while on ketamine.

I still love weed. I’ve been a daily smoker for around 20 years. But in the past year I’ve started taking a break from all drugs for extended periods of time. It started with following along with Joe Rogans Sober October. That’s when I realized that being sober was a lot easier than I imagined it being. Most recently I did a month and half of no substances but when I went to California to visit family I couldn’t resist so I started up with weed again. At first it was VERY strong. Like 1 hit is all I needed to get really high. I noticed some twinges of anxiety in those first highs but like Charlie it wears off in 30 min and then I’m left with a relaxing high that I enjoy. I Jump right back into using daily and now don’t have the anxiety anymore. I’m going to take another month of sobriety in May. I’ve started to really enjoy the clarity of thought as well as the tolerance reset. And you can’t beat the dreams that withdrawing from weed gives you.
You also can’t beat the quality of sleep from a 20mg edible and a couple bong rips.
I’ll most likely continue using drugs for the rest of my life but I’ve really started appreciating sobriety as it’s own high.

Sobriety is great when you can manage it for a while. I get crazy vivid nightmares when I stop smoking cannabis though. My advice is to practice lucid dreaming during a period of heavy cannabis use, keeping a dream journal and such. Lots of people complain about not dreaming while using cannabis all the time, but it's definitely (I mean, probably) just because they're too stoned during the dreams and also forgetting them later. If you train yourself to have vivid dream memory while high you can still dream actively every single night even while being a regular stoner and it's great, I love my dreams while using cannabis because they're pretty much always just weird or goofy in some way and basically never notably negative, and I can still become lucid occasionally without even having actively thought about it in many years.

Also, I'm curious of safety issues with 5-meo-mipt/5-meo-dipt and suboxone. Would the mild maoi effect be harmful with those? Got a batch of 5-MeO-MiPT in for the first time in years and it has a special place in my heart and I've never tried 5-meo-dipt but always wanted to amd finally have some, so debating between those and a psychedelic amphetamine.

5-MeO-MiPT and 5-MeO-DiPT don't have meaningful MAOI properties. Almost every psychedelic inhibits MAO just a little bit, even things like psilocin.

Thats exactly how weed is for me too these days. I am very careful with how much I smoke and with whom. I rarely smoke at home by myself because my mind will race. I tend to handle it better with one or two close friends or while out doing something. I agree that its a full fledged experience on par with psychedelics. Got too stoned the other week while on DMXE as I was laying in bed with my lover at their place. We proceeded to have the best, most primal sex either of us have ever had. I was just so stoned that sex was the only thing that was keeping me grounded. It was superb. DMXE is a wonderful sex drug for me and weed can be too if I'm careful not to smoke too much.

Cannabis makes me so horny and I smoke it so often that it's hard for me to feel horny without cannabis. Or maybe I've just been smoking it for so long that I expect too much from horniness now....

Ok I'll bite. I love my weed. Been smoking 45 years with a year or two break for parole piss tests. Give me the most anxiety inducing weed and I will use it for sleep.

Yup. More anxious = more potent. Gimme gimme.

It looks like I'm one of the seemingly few that can trip and smoke during the trip and enjoy the experience. We are all wired differently, we all follow the beat of our individual drummer and all have different reactions to this and other experiences.

I literally will not trip unless I have cannabis for it. It almost feels like a waste of a psychedelic for me.

Indeed. One of the most intense drug experiences I ever had was age 19, smoking two enormous hits from a bong after a 4 month break. I was literally seeing geometric patterns oscillating through empty space and than I felt like I'd lost the ability to recognise human faces. My girlfriend looked like a total stranger, just a collection of random holes on this eerie simian skull. The level of panic was simply extraordinary, I wanted to call an ambulance, ha imagine that. I've never experienced that amount of sheer terror on any psychedelic, even very high doses. Anyway, I recovered my wits after what felt like 3 eternities and kept on smoking.

Although my first salvia trip totally rocked me in a similar way.

I drove myself to an urgent care center from a cannabis panic attack once. The doctor accused me of being on cocaine and tried to force me to take lorazepam.

Cannabis without tolerance for me feels similar to taking a psychedelic and smoking salvia at the same time. Manic energy, colorful visuals, the wheel, entities, everything. I often lament the fact that I can't use it like that whenever I want and simultaneously be an everyday stoner, it just doesn't work. I really do like having it as a regular thing though. But I also kind of hate it in part because it still makes me trip somewhat hard (for what most people expect) even when I do have tolerance. It's a complicated relationship.

 

[phenethylo J]

I never really got anxiety issues from it but are allot more dependent on cannabis than I was when I was younger. Recently went through 6 grams of oil+ 7 grams of flower in 2 1/2 weeks. Usually don't smoke flower anymore but they my shop sell very crystally shake for cheaper than dirt weed prices. Because I went through it so quick I had almost nothing for 420 or when I had to take some x rays for a check up on my back issues the day after. The week without it after that was hell. This time just got 4 grams of oil and am trying to make it last.

Think I'm going to plug some 2c-p and mxe shortly. Haven't really been tripping lately at all. Last time I tripped was last January with the same combo but before that was just a tiny bit of mxe a year prior.

 

[Xorkoth]

Thats exactly how weed is for me too these days. I am very careful with how much I smoke and with whom. I rarely smoke at home by myself because my mind will race. I tend to handle it better with one or two close friends or while out doing something. I agree that its a full fledged experience on par with psychedelics. Got too stoned the other week while on DMXE as I was laying in bed with my lover at their place. We proceeded to have the best, most primal sex either of us have ever had. I was just so stoned that sex was the only thing that was keeping me grounded. It was superb. DMXE is a wonderful sex drug for me and weed can be too if I'm careful not to smoke too much.

It's really hard to find the time for psychedelic amphetamines. Don't think I'm gonna get around to trying any of them this weekend. I'm just at home by myself and the thoiught of trying to stay entertained for that long is daunting. At the very least I'd like to have a dissociative or two on hand to pepper in on the tail end of things. Not sure what I'm gonna do on my 4 day weekend. I took 55mg of Memantine today. Don't feel anything really but its only been 3 hours. Don't want to take too much and screw up the possibility of taking something tomorrow. I'm leaning towards 4-FMA since I've tripped 2 out of 3 of my last weekends and I don't have any proper dissociatives. Will probably take time off this summer to indulge in DOC because I've been hankering to give that another go as its been 10 years almost since my one trip with it. I look foirward to hearing what you think of TMA-2. A lot of mixed reports but the positive reports make it sound like a worthwhile chem

Psychedelic amphetamines really require another person for me to get the most out of them, they kind of feel like a waste if I'm by myself. I think that's a good idea to wait.

I had to stop smoking because of this. I actually feel like it's got something to do with life stresses though. I smoked a few grams over a couple of weeks about 18 months ago and it was fucking great, was absolutely living this WWII documentary series. But when my life was really shit, I would just spiral into complete headfucking anxious rumination every time I smoked. I actually get very little anxiety at all anymore since I stopped, been 3+ years since i was a dedicated pothead. No real desire to smoke again.

That's how it was for me for years, but then the anxiety just became permament, whether my life was going good or not. It sucks because weed is a way better drug to unwind with than any other one.

 

[Xorkoth]

im ok with a fat bong rip or 2 at the tail end of an lsd trip nowadays and i was normally doing that before i stopped back in December

i just haven't smoked at the beginning of a trip recently and not really for any particular reason either

but back in my 20s and 30s, i always did and it never caused me any issues with my trip

Same, I never used to get anxiety from weed, in fact in fact it was anxiolytic, if I felt anxious, I could smoke weed and it would make me feel alright, like a benzo, except way trippier and without the stupidification. I used to always smoke weed at the beginning of a trip, I used to feel like I couldn't properly trip without it. But at some point it changed, and now I wouldn't dream of smoking weed at the beginning of a psychedelic, it would turn the trip into an anxiety attack, guaranteed.

That was just weed?

Hmmm...

Almost makes it worthy of taking a 4 month tolerance break...

Yeah, you should try. Weed is actually a very powerful drug. I get more altered from weed than most drugs.

 

[swilow]

Weed has the ability to give me incredible racing thoughts. My mind can feel totally out of control, not something that happens with nearly any other drug.

This song kicks ass BTW, perfect psytrance structure

 

[arrall]

Just took 30-35mg of MXE intranasally.
I previously attempted about 30mg through boofing a few days ago, but inserted the syringe too deep and thus did not get full effects.
7 minutes into dosing and the rocketship is already taking off.
Looking forward to finally getting a proper trial of this magical substance (and hopefully dealing with the depression that I've been experiencing since I returned home)

 

[arrall]

As someone who has taken MXE twice (once properly because I botched the first dosing) and DMXE ~20+ times:
MXE and DMXE are very similar, at least at the moderate-high but sub-hole dosage range.
MXE maybe feels slightly lighter body-wise, and a bit more energetic.
But these differences could easily be ascribed to batch purity.

 

[Mjäll]

As someone who has taken MXE twice (once properly because I botched the first dosing) and DMXE ~20+ times:
MXE and DMXE are very similar, at least at the moderate-high but sub-hole dosage range.
MXE maybe feels slightly lighter body-wise, and a bit more energetic.
But these differences could easily be ascribed to batch purity.

That's interesting. MXE was many years ago for most of us. A rare treat. I estimated them to be similar aswell.

MXE perhaps carried slightly more mindfuck capacity but that could be attributed to a younger more sensitive brain.

 

[JackARoe]

I literally will not trip unless I have cannabis for it. It almost feels like a waste of a psychedelic for me.

Same here. I have to take a few hits out of a pipe an hour or two after I dose, and then again a few hours later. I use to be jealous of people that could trip without smoking. I did however go 2 1/2 years without cannabis because I had to take piss tests for parole. But I did trip quite a few times in that period and felt great that I could go a whole trip without a smoke. Once off parole I started right back up smoking.

 

[cosmic charlie]

My girlfriend is really heavy into Cannabis and thanks to me she has a constant supply off all types of goodies. Right now this is what is put away in the stash spot. When i buy i get everything in bulk cuz it all comes vacuum sealed anyways and it saves so much money in the long run. Ive been paying for her habit awhile now, but it brings me joy to please her. My other half and all.

48 Delta-9-THC gummies ~ 50mgs each
4 Delta-9-THC vape carts ~ One Gram each
14 grams Planet Dosi Cannabis Flower
28 grams Deathstar Cannabis Flower
28 grams Wedding Cake Cannabis Flower
28 grams Cherry Diesel Cannabis Flower
28 grams Three Kings Cannabis Flower

Not gonna lie im pretty jealous of her sometimes