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I got too excited from the lower dosages of 4-HO-EPT. I really wanted and expected it to develop more too. I still like it when it’s good, I’m just not really sure what to do with it now, and don’t really feel the need to push it again. I think maybe one day I’ll just start taking barely-above-microdoses just to try to get a slight buzz or something. It doesn’t feel bad when you avoid side effects, so maybe it’s just best thought of as a high or something (or at least, I think that’s what I might try it as).

I thought I would love 4-HO-MPT and I was right, but aside from that I kind of agree with what you said. I do actually enjoy pretty much all of them in at least some way though. Even 4-HO-McPT is a good high. I’ll be looking forward to hearing about 4-AcO-DPT if you try it, there’s not a lot written about that one.

EPT is great. I wish that one was the one I had stocked up on. ;-; I have to use it more sparingly than most things now.
 
Kaleida said:
Even 4-HO-McPT is a good high.
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Yeah I enjoyed it, my one experience. I wrote a TR, even though it wasn't exciting, just because of how rare TRs of it are. It was entirely pleasant and enjoyable, just very light, and not fully psychedelic, with the feeling that it would never fully develop at any dose (but to be fair, I have no way of knowing if that's actually true, perhaps 250mg or something would be incredible).

I have not had 4-AcO-DPT, but I have had 4-HO-DPT a handful of times, and there is something compelling about it, but I think I have never reached a full dose (I believe I have taken it up to 40mg).
 
One of the latter isn't super orally bioavailable, right? That's why people generally insufflate it? I look it up every time I consider trying it, then promptly forget when I lose interest.
 
They are fun. :) Figuring out that scene just takes a lot of time and learning, and effort. I've been in the game since 2005, but I was actively trying to figure out how to find these things since 2002/2003, and finally found my first source in 2005. Then by 2006/2007 I was pretty connected. Now it's 20 years after I first started looking and I am very tapped in, but I sure as hell hope so after all that time :whistle:
 
Xorkoth said:
They are fun. :) Figuring out that scene just takes a lot of time and learning, and effort. I've been in the game since 2005, but I was actively trying to figure out how to find these things since 2002/2003, and finally found my first source in 2005. Then by 2006/2007 I was pretty connected. Now it's 20 years after I first started looking and I am very tapped in, but I sure as hell hope so after all that time :whistle:
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Oh I know pretty well! My cousin used to get em showed me this site back then probably would have gone by glimmi think that was it might of been 420 at the end not sure so I know where to look I just don’t know where ya get me.. haven’t played with ‘em probably since 07-08
 
I loved 4-HO-EPT, usually took 50mgs and it was a wonderful trip very euphoric. Not much going on visually, little psychedelic mindstate but the body high from it was incredible. Also really enjoyed 4-AcO-EPT and it was much of the same i only needed to slightly up the dosage.

One time when i took a bunch of Clonazepam i ended up eating a vial with all my 4-AcO-EPT i had left, around 350mgs. Well i had a breakthru trip and saw a dancing woman entity, closed eye mind you. Beautiful geometric patterns, i pretty much got couch locked for hours. So that being said the safety profile is sound.

Never found either of these to be overstimulating for me personally. But i have heard that mentioned by a number of people. Id say that the 4-HO is the one i would pick up if i ever felt inclined one day.
 
cosmic charlie said:
I loved 4-HO-EPT, usually took 50mgs and it was a wonderful trip very euphoric. Not much going on visually, little psychedelic mindstate but the body high from it was incredible.
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This is part of what I was getting at before. When it does work, it's ridiculously hedonistic. Like a tryptamine acid dripping in golden sunshine radiating pure erotic joy. The problem for me is just that I can almost never get it there for whatever reason. Most of the time it just makes me couch locked like you said but without that euphoria, and without that sort of high I tend to prefer to be more stimulated than sedated on psychedelics.

cosmic charlie said:
One time when i took a bunch of Clonazepam i ended up eating a vial with all my 4-AcO-EPT i had left, around 350mgs. Well i had a breakthru trip and saw a dancing woman entity, closed eye mind you. Beautiful geometric patterns, i pretty much got couch locked for hours. So that being said the safety profile is sound.
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Nothing could possibly be surprising at that dosage lol. But it sounds great. Even at low dosages I can tell it would be that kind of trip if pushed far enough. It gives me lots of human imagery in the visions I do get to a greater degree than most things actually even though the visions are usually quite light for me. That's part of why I always felt it would be great, I just never wanted to push it quite ^ this far.
 
Didn't see this before.

Pfafffed said:
One of the latter isn't super orally bioavailable, right? That's why people generally insufflate it? I look it up every time I consider trying it, then promptly forget when I lose interest.
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I don't know about 4-AcO-DPT but 4-HO-DPT is that way. I'm not personally convinced it's an actual problem with bioavailability compared to just potency. That's actually what I was referring to with the 4-HO-EPT, I find it similar to 4-HO-DPT in this particular way personally. They both feel like something to me at dosages that are normal for other 4-substituted tryptamines but take considerably more for me to even get a chance at becoming more fully developed.

I've heard good things about snorting 4-HO-EPT, for what it's worth. Never tried it myself. Not really a fan of the route.
 
First time trip on 2C-B tonight. Not sure of the exact dosage, but minimum 20mg consumed. Always heard it was very transparent, but I'm still surprised at the transparency here. Very, very clear thought, little in the way of visuals. Still rolling along at the 5 hour mark here, but surprisingly sleepy considering the fact that I just went through the peak of a ++ or +++ psychedelic experience lol. I definitely see how this stuff was popular at parties back in the day, because it's the sort of experience that would be very easy even for a newbie. But honestly... Far from the most interesting psychedelic drug I've ever consumed. Perhaps I needed to push the dosage higher, but I feel as if the increased body load might not be worth the increased mental stimulation.

Very little to speak of in the way of visuals, but I have always tended to be a hardhead when it comes to visuals. Definitely viewing life in HDR right now, but that's as far as it's going. No movement of any sort.

Also tho, no desire to consume any other substances and dull the mental stimulation. Very much enjoying being deep in intellectual thought and expression. Spent about 45 minutes earlier talking to someone on Reddit and explaining how chemotherapy works lol.
 
Ohh it gets plenty visual when you push the dose up to like 35mgs, or if you mix it with Dissos. Ive had some incredible trips on it dosing 2'-Oxo-PCE or 3-MeO-PCP with it. Those drugs it turns into the most euphoric body high, and the visuals are just insane the whole world swirling and shifting colors.

I watched this one show about Alaska on the big flat screen and the scenery was flowing like water it was so beautiful. And i just hugged my cat for hours cuz i was tripping hard and he kept me grounded. My ex has a picture from one of those nights and i have this enormous shit eating grin.

Glad you had fun 😃
 
I haven't had much in the way of visuals ever since I pushed the dose of 2C-T-21 too high when I was much younger. Pushed that one up to the 25-30mg range and it gave me INCREDIBLE visuals. The fragments of the exploding clock in my Dali poster were literally floating around my room. The wood grain of our doors, the patterns in our faux marble countertop, were all flowing like a river. But I think it fried that part of my brain to an extent, because I have barely ever gotten visuals since, even off of high insufflated doses of 2C-E. I get the standard effects like enhanced colors, sharpness, pattern recognition, etc, but nothing in the way of actual movement or lingering visual phenomena or etc. The closest I've had is intense closed eye hallucinations on DOI, but even that didn't give open eyed visuals.

Dissociatives on the other hand still can give me intense closed eye visuals, merging with the universe's fractal lattice. :)
 
2C-B does indeed get VERY visual, but yeah it takes me 30mg to get very visual, and many people find it takes more. Or, you could mix it with a little bit of MXE, and tat 20mg would have had you swimming in visuals. MXE is incredible at potentiating psychedelics, it's actually quite absurd. Preload just even a light dose of MXE, and dose a 2C-X on top of that, also in a light dose, and tell me if it isn't like you took 3-4 times as much of the psychedelic.

I very much doubt, though, that anyone (or many) have had a +4 on 2C-B. It's just not the sort of drug to produce that level of experience.
 
I explained further in the Tripping thread just now, but yeah, total hard head for visuals ever since my high dose 2C-T-21 experiences when I was younger. Was like my brain said "wow that's cool but that's enough of that" and now it just doesn't happen lol. Might honestly be a mental thing tho. I like maintaining control to the point that I wouldn't be surprised if I stubbornly resist visual disturbances just out of a desire to keep seeing the world as it is.

Edit -- wait that's this thread and I'm just tired :)
 
I never really enjoyed Frank Zappa much in the past, but he's really clicking with me at the moment. I think perhaps my younger self was just too pretentious to enjoy a musician that just wanted to make good music and didn't care about trying to write life altering lyrics lol. Glad I turned him on.
 
Zappa is a unicorn. That was one weird dude, exceptional musician, but his shit is... so weird. Incidentally, though, he was one of the most prolific and inspired composers of the 20th century. His orchestral stuff is even less accessible than his rock-type stuff, but it's genius.
 
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