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cosmic charlie said:


This is one of my favorite Zappa songs 😛
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Yeah that one specifically stood out to me when I was listening earlier. The ragtimey piano in that musical setting is pretty fun.

I put on the album Argus by the band Wishbone Ash, now. One of the unsung gems from the 70s. They only had this one album that I would say is A+ material, but damn what a good album. I didn't discover it until a few years ago but it instantly became one of my favorites. They do some cool twin guitar harmony stuff, labelled "The British Allman Brothers" by some in the press at the time. And "British" as a label in 1973 functionally meant "more progressive than that American blues based rock" :)

@cosmic charlie this is track two on the album but I think it might be a better single song for a first listen of the band. The opening track is rather different in tone from the rest of the album, this song kind of gives a mix of everything they do tho:



I met a man who felt the same way
That the world had passed him by
Told to me all his troubles
That the world had made him cry

Life had kept him waiting
Regretting his pain inside
Had to feel underrated
And hated, besides

Life had kept him waiting
Regretting his shame inside
Had to feel underrated
And hated, besides

Sometime world, pass me by again,
Carry you, carry me, away....
Sometime world, pass me by again,
Carry you, carry me, away....
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This one rocks too:



I'm leaving to search for something new,
Leaving everything I ever knew.
A hundred years in the sunshine
Hasn't taught me all there is to know.

In the valley, we will gather there,
Helpless in our surrender.
Tomorrow the plow becomes the sword -
Make us stronger in our danger.

Time will pass away,
Time will guard our secret.
I'll return again
To fight another day.

I'd have to be a warrior -
A slave I couldn't be -
A soldier and a conqueror,
Fighting to be free.
[x3]
 
Was just sitting here thinking about big picture shit... Not sure I would have connected the dots if I hadn't had the discussion on Reddit earlier explaining how chemotherapy works by interrupting the chemistry of mitosis. Nor would I have connected the dots if I hadn't (in years past) meditated so deeply on the sensations I experienced during my four years of chemotherapy. But as I was lying here analyzing my own bodily sensations under the effects of 2C-B and FXE, thinking about the constant apoptotic flow of cell division, it occurred to me that the combination of conscious intention and psychedelics might literally allow you to rewrite your own DNA to become more harmonized with natural human biological function (i.e. "be more healthy" on an intrinsic level).

And after Googling, sure enough, MAPS is already on it, but the idea seems to be a relatively new concept in academia. The oldest literature I can find connecting psychedelics to epigenetics only goes back to 2017!

Psychedelic Support: Bridging Psychedelic Psychotherapy and Epigenetics – Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies – MAPS

maps.org maps.org

Always tickled with myself when I can make predictions that end up being verified by literature. I really need to get a degree so I can finally be ahead of the fringe instead of just behind the fringe!
 
www.lucid.news

First Study on Psychedelics and Epigenetics Explores Ayahuasca’s Effects on Gene Expression - Lucid News

An innovative study finds that ayahuasca impacts the expression of DNA, illuminating what makes ayahuasca so therapeutic.
www.lucid.news www.lucid.news

Frontiers | Hypothesis: The Psychedelic Ayahuasca Heals Traumatic Memories via a Sigma 1 Receptor-Mediated Epigenetic-Mnemonic Process

Ayahuasca ingestion modulates brain activity, neurotransmission, gene expression and epigenetic regulation. N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT, one of the alkaloids...
www.frontiersin.org www.frontiersin.org

Hypothesis: The Psychedelic Ayahuasca Heals Traumatic Memories via a Sigma 1 Receptor-Mediated Epigenetic-Mnemonic Process - PMC

Ayahuasca ingestion modulates brain activity, neurotransmission, gene expression and epigenetic regulation. N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT, one of the alkaloids in Ayahuasca) activates sigma 1 receptor (SIGMAR1) and others. SIGMAR1 is a multi-faceted ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Easiest reading material of these citations here, tho it paints a bit of a false picture. DNA is not as unchangeable as we once thought it was. There is a constant back and forth happening that causes your DNA to essentially alter itself over time. The system of a cell is so chaotic that there's no reason to assume that the most complex machine in it (DNA) is wholly immutable, that false assumption has led science down some wrong turns.

hightimes.com

Is Psychedelic Healing in Your Genes? A Team of Scientists Seeks to Find Out

Dr. Joe Tafur and the Modern Spirit Epigenetics Project seek to understand the impact of psychedelics on intergenerational and cultural trauma.
hightimes.com hightimes.com
 
Argus is a great album with an equally great cover art

Also surely an interesting idea, the psychedelic-genetic connection. Epigenetics is probably a mediator of many things.
 
That's some fascinating stuff. :) Also, this is the first time I've heard of (or heard) Wishbone Ash, thanks for sharing, that does indeed rock.
 


One time me and my friend ate an eighth of mushrooms and when we peaked had this song playing over and over @pharmakos. It was such an epic day, that evening we walked to the beach and saw thousand seagulls in the sky it was incr edible. Then on the walk back we saw a 5 foot long Opossum, what a disturbing creature. Had to disappear into the other direction and find an alternate route. Not sure what was real, lol 😏
 
pharmakos said:
Very little to speak of in the way of visuals, but I have always tended to be a hardhead when it comes to visuals
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I've never found it to be very visual even at 30-35mg orally. I can't recall if it was rectally (I suspect not,) but it's very visual when insufflated. It's not very pleasant coming up hard and fast while also in severe pain, though.
 
I find 2C-B to be very visual, it's got the classic "persian carpet" thing going on, and very colorful. In fact it's one of the more visual psychedelics I can think of for me. But not at lower doses.
 
I was just putting the most recent substances I received in vials (allylescaline - actually that was a while ago but I had it in the bag still, 2C-T-7, tiletamine, and DOB), and the DOB puffed up a tiny cloud of powder, which I'm pretty sure I inhaled. I have never bothered with a mask or anything while handling the DOXs, but yeah, that thing happened that is the reason one should do that. I might be starting to feel a little "funny". If so... well here we go, I guess. It couldn't have been more than a couple hundred micrograms, I don't think. That is, if I inhaled any at all.
 
I made friends with the drug fairy. ;) But for real, it feels that way. I helped a friend out with something, basically received large amounts of a couple of RCs. For my trouble, and his appreciation for what I've done with BL and trip reports for so long, I think, he just started sending me stuff he had in cold storage in quantities that he could spare quite a bit of a lot of things I value so much. <3 Including MXE, 2C-C, 2C-D, 2C-I, 2C-E, and 2C-T-7. And also a few doses of tiletamine which I'm really excited about.

This friend isn't on BL, it's someone I've known a log time, who reached out to me out of the blue. And I realized that I know the actual drug fairy! :trippy:

Pfafffed said:
Bon voyage! Thanks for the reminder to use the N95 I have next to my scale!
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I think I probably didn't actually get any, or maybe a microdose to the point I didn't feel much of anything. Thought I had a come-up feeling earlier but I may have been psyching myself out. In any case, yes, a good mask that filters out particles is pretty important when working with super potent substances, especially if they're in fine, flour-like powder form.
 
I rewrote my dna on a heavy acid trip in 2019 I have not aged a single day since then.

I have been sober since my dmt trip in mid Jan. Even though I can't remeber the trip and felt like I got nothing from it. My life has greatly improved in many ways. So maybe the dmt rewired my brain

My depression has cleared away. I feel alive and totally disconnected from the internet mostly. Only checking in on it once a week.

I will no longer be a slave to my desires.

I have cut out junk food compeltly and trying to become the healthiest of myself.

The dmt must of upgraded my character In this video game called life.

Stay well everyone.

I want to know if the gov is covering up aliens. Are they Chinese spy drones or aliens

Most likely chinese or Russian spy craft. Man that spy Ballon made me laugh my ass off. 🤣
Winnie the pooh commie leader needs to take 25 tabs to his skull and wake up lol

Life is a hell of a journey. The ride is always up and down. Enjoy the good times build resilience for the hard times work hard play hard and come to some balance eventually.

Look ahead and invest in the green transition. Life changing wealth is here to be made over the next two decades as the economy and world is transformed into a sustainable green economy.

Humanity faces many challenges but we have always found a way forward.

 
The valentine theme also led me to look up the availability of MDMA therapy in my region. I'm generally skeptical towards psychotherapy, we've been over this a couple of times.. but if there's anything there, it's with the psychopharmacological variants.

Of course MDMA therapy isn't here yet. But MAPS is running trials even in my proverbial backyard. Weirdly enough a lack of PTSD diagnosis isn't what's keeping me out, they seem to just use a questionnaire. It's that one needs to provide a support contact they can reach in case of an emergency, like when the subject turns suicidal. I don't have any of those, lol. And I guess it's easy to check a phone number on legitimacy?

My worry isn't despair on MDMA, not in a social-ish setting. My worry is all the utter crap I talk on it, under a protocol dictating that everything be recorded for all eternity. But I don't even get to weigh the pros against those cons if I'm unable to phone someone even pretending to care.

On another level I don't feel I'm in the right stage of life to thaw the heart. I need to get rid of factors that could make such process backfire first. So I suppose I could take the hindrances as a sign it isn't time yet.

(Testing the low-dose acid + memantine combo today.)
 
Good stuff @Chris Timothy im really interested to hear about how that goes, looking forward to mixing it with psychedelics in the future myself.

Bet that Memantine and LSD would be pretty incredible, id like to take 100mgs of the Mem with 200ugs of Acid. It would probably make the LSD trip last so much longer due to the potentiation. Would also like to try taking some 4-AcO-DMT on it as well at some point.

Id probably dose the psych like 5hrs into the Memantine trip so it will be fully in effect. Id imagine the visuals would be so powerful. Just dont know when id be able to fit it into my schedule timewise tho, recreational doses of Memantine are just such an investment. The last time i took 200mgs it lasted for three days.

It also will jack in up your disso tolerance worse than any other compound i have come across, like it feels half the potency for me know as when i started playing with it. I gave the whole stash i have to girlfriend to hold onto for far in the future. From what i read it goes down eventually but can take months, and in some ways will never be the same.

Im grateful it helped get me off the Methadone but in retrospect i should have kept the doses lower after the first three days of heavy use. It doesnt seem to be effecting my FXE use too much tho thankfully as i can get really profound effects from that. Like 250-300mgs of the FXE intranasal takes me right where i wanna be as an initial dose, and then i can top off with 150mgs every hour or two and draw it out all night.

Cant wait to go for it this weekend, have a 24hr pass so me andy girlfriend are gonna be partying all evening/nite. Im gonna have us each take 1.8g's of Phenibut Hcl tho right as we do our first lines so it will hopefully allow us to sleep and fight thru the residual stimulation. Dissos really tend to fuck up my sleep royally, this one isnt as bad as others but it can take me about 3-4hrs to sleep after my last dose.

This is with Gabapentoids, last time i had a gram of Lyrica. That combo completely fucked my motorskills tho and i was stumbling all over the place. Im think that Phenibut wont cause that cuz i never have that issue on it normally. She is a little nervous about how powerful it was before but its gonna be more chill cuz she isnt gonna have to worry about driving the same night.

We are gonna be renting a nicer hotel room also. Gonna have us dose at the same time and have two 5 cart balloons of n2O already blown up so we can immediately hop into bed with the covers on so we can be ready for take off. She likes it when i hold her during the trip, its comforting, very bonding experience.
 
As usual, more drugs and life in your post than I can handle, haha.. but yeah been wanting to ask about memantine's tolerance build, thanks for reading my mind. :) Kinda stupidly overlooked it, mentally muddying recreational and daily low dose.. and nobody seems to be talking about tolerance in the B&D memantine thread.

Any insight into what proper spacing would be for it?

My first impression of mixing acid and mem is that it's nice to cleanly center a psychedelic mindspace. But in the absence of overt synergy it feels like a bit of a waste. The combo is also not very kind for the tinnitus. So dunno whether I'll be repeating it any time soon. Big plus though is that the memantine instantly squashed my thrist. So much clearer a headspace than alcohol. At the very least it should stop me barging in here like an unleashed cantankerous baboon every goddamn week, heh.
 
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