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~60mg MXE, some ganja and alcohol creates a weird altered state, it feels like my whole life is a circus. hahahha, last couple of days have been so great that im glowing of good vibes.. whats the thing that keeps us from being happy when all you need is in front of you? Carpe diem brothers

 
Hey y'all, glad to be your mod once again! They said my title might not be changed yet, nevertheless I am once again a mod of this great forum. :)

Xorkoth, you have nothing to fear, it just takes you, and you've got plenty of experience under your belt. Would *strongly* suggest staying away from the buprenorphine before however.....they dont play nice together. The 37.5 hr mean half life of bupe does Ibogaine no favors, and the kappa antagonism of bupe presents a problem. Stick with the seed tea.....you are doing it like every other day, yeah? Just stick with that, and lower your dose as much as you can prior, and be as sick as you can. Ibogaine at +1g will blow those withdrawals out of the water, and give you an amazing oneirogenic experience to boot. The lack of cravings afterwords is oh so nice as well. :)

I been meaning to post some more details and answers to your questions in the Ibogaine thread, I will, just been busy as hell lately...springtime, farming and all.....bare with me! I think it is exactly what you need, and you are the ideal candidate man. Soon you will be free of those pesky opioids :D

Thanks for the words man. :) I did just purchase 3 8mg suboxones, I had heard they don't play well together but I was thinking I'd take 1-2mg whenever I absolutely needed to and stop 3 or 4 days before and go back to poppy tea at the minimum level. DO you think that would be wise, or unwise? I definitely want to be on something that it plays well with, but tapering on poppy tea alone is really difficult for me, especially since I have 20 pounds left (I was getting 25 pound boxes from the local discount grocer for $56, best deal on poppy seeds you could ever ask for but as a result I have a shitload sitting around).


I hate life so much mang that I often wonder why I'm still here, then I remember what I never forgot in the first place.... Seriously though life..., you best be "Hell", then when I die physically my energy will just disperse like it had never aligned in the first place. God damn though, just a bit of a breath catcher here even to much to ask for? These days I feel it is.....:( Without my dog and cat I think I'd go crazy but these last couple of months have been pretty severely depressed at times which made it hard to.....do what I like to which is nearly smother them with love. I feel bad though because my little girl dog just always stares at me when I'm sad and thinking. I know it's eating her up that I'm being eaten up, which in turn eats me up. I try to pretend to be happy and play with them but it's like they know it's a fake day by the way they act. I find animals to be much better at sensing emotion than human, especially when you and the animal are companions.

I feel you man, I feel so guilty when I am depressed and I can't really show my sweet baby kitties the love they deserve and that I have for them. Fortunately in the past week I have really crossed over a hump. I realized that the only toxic thing still in my life is opiates, and shortly I will be addressing that in a very direct and powerful way. Keep your head up man, life is a rollercoaster and there is always another up. <3

Today I'm gonna paint, clean the house, and then go hang out with a good friend this evening. Should be a great day. :) Plus I just got re-modded, that's great for a little boost too. :) I love this forum so much, and I loved moderating it for a good 5 years in the past. I feel like it's a part of me and that now I have reclaimed my place.
 
Xorky- congrats on the new modship! (or return to such)

You are in a unique situation...most Ibo providers recommend a month or more off of bupe before undergoing an Ibogaine session...but that is for folks who have been on it long term, higher doses, and have it built up in their bodies. Many actually suggest going to pod tea for that period..

But you have been on seed tea for a long time, and poppy tea, be it pod or seeds, also has a longer ( and more complicated) withdrawal than straightforward opioids. Do you have access to a short acting opioid for a week or two pre Ibo? If not, my personal opinion would be to avoid the buprenorhine altogether and just stick with the seed tea. I know it varies quite a bit in strength, but if you can get by dosing every other day I'd just stick with that, even if you can't successfully taper. Just go as long as you can without pre Ibo....but regardless of the strength of the tea, a good dose of Ibogaine will wipe away the acute withdrawals, and a good portion of the PAWS. Not all, but enough to give you some momentum...if you are lucky you may well get some insight into your addiction. The astounding trip is just a bonus :)

It will wipe you out...but you can function a few days afterwords. You will have some fatigue, and likely only need 4-5 hours of sleep a night for the first few weeks. But you will also hopefully have an amazing indescribable glow, and a deep joy at the possibility of actually being able to live (happily) opioid free. It's not a magic bullet, but the closest thing I have found!

MGS- glad you are feeling better man. It's a long haul, innit? I think we did our 2 nd Ibo sessions at the same time....got some stuff I wanna go over with you....gimme a minute...

Wishing you the best man :)

Help- sorry you are depressed and in pain! I know the feeling...my intense depression of the last few years is finally (I hope) lifting...but it is taking great effort. Im also finding that a good deal of my physical pain has been my depression manifesting itself as such. I have some serious physical issues, but my brain has been making them far worse. I don't know your situation, but wish you the best...maybe spring will help things along :)
 
Yeah I can order some kratom and do that from when I get it (2-3 days from tomorrow) until the ibogaine. Do you think that would be best?

Man I have such a great glow, have all week, and especially all weekend. I just talked with my soon-to-be ex wife for an hour and a half... the call was originally for the purpose of going through her closet to determine which clothes to ship her for Spring, but we got to talking and I feel even better now. She told me she wants to just give me the house, no strings attached, so we have no conflicts at all regarding how to split our stuff. She also said she doesn't think she has any right to any of my money or things or to alimony. We did Facetime, last time I we did that (over a month ago) I felt horribly sad seeing her face, but this time I didn't feel sad at all, and the conversation was easy and pleasant for both of us. :) Despite everything I truly have nothing but good will towards her, and that feels awesome. :) Holding onto negativity is so toxic.
 
^ come back soon ya thought provoking and inspiring son of a.....;)

Xork- when do you do the Iboga? I hear many success stories of people switching from LAOs to Kratom for a few weeks pre flood....

For me, I was on such high doses of Kratom (50g a day) for so long, that the Iboga worked fabulously for the opiodergic aspects of Kratom...I can deal with that shit standing on my head....but the other antidepressant/adrenergic/calcium channel blockade/NMDA antagonism/insert MOA here (Kratom is oh so messy long term!) aspects Iboga didn't deal with so well....but I'm coping...running, meditating, therapy, immersing myself in the farm, etcbetcbetc....

So if you are on doing the Ibogaine in a few weeks or a month I would say Kratom is a great idea...but months down the line, better off sticking with poppy tea!

Wait, NKB (New Kids on the Block??) can we get a pic of that tie? With you in it of course. Preferably drunk, up for three days, and gazing at flowers. Por favor? (I say all these things with love ;))
 
I'm taking it on the 26th of this month. I just want to do the best thing for the ibogaine to do its best work. I could switch to kratom, but if you say that it didn't deal with kratom too fully then maybe it would be best to stay on poppy tea. The thing about poppy tea that I am worried about is that it has such a long withdrawal. I don't want to get to the end of ibogaine's anti-withdrawal time and end up still being in withdrawal. Kratom withdrawal lasts 5 days maximum for me, but if ibogaine doesn't fully deal with it then maybe I don't want to switcj. I WAS going to take 1-2mg of suboxone when I felt bad enough that I couldn't handle it, then the next day take MXE or something, then sub again... for a total of maybe only 4 or 5 sub doses, spaced at least a day apart, with the intention of avoiding ever becoming dependent at all on sub. But if you think that's too risky then I won't. Everyone says sub doesn't play well with ibogaine at all.
 
I dont know what happened yesterday but I was tripping hard. Mxe showed me something i havent seen before. I wasnt in m-hole but it was very very intense. Extreme synesthesia, i havent felt music that intensely even with high al-lad or 200mcg lsd doses. Mxe is really something, that peaceful place where it gets me really makes me appreciate life like never before. And i wasnt so cynic to begin with. Wow.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3797969/

Very interesting read about inducing synaesthesia with chemical agents.

I did some googling and that sound-feel synesthesia that is called Auditory-tactile synesthesia is one of the rarest form of it, and usually appear in only people who have had some kind of accidents. Its amazing to think about how some people are born with this 'ability' and their whole perception of the world is completely different than most of the people. Its usually in childhood when an individual realizes that others don't perceive the world like you.

I also found this book about this phenomenom, I downloaded it from the internet and it seems very informative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wednesday_Is_Indigo_Blue
 
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you guys might be a lil jealous, the other night I had sex after eating 40mg mxe, drinking a few IPAs, smoking some weed and taking a gram of mushroom shake that was from the bottom of what used to be an enormous bag of mushrooms then snorting 20 more mg MXE as the mushrooms were starting to kick in. It was very DMT like and I realized during sex that I was just absolutely lucky as fuck to be having sex on such a bangin cocktail of drugs. typically I can't get hard when I'm that far out of reality but this was a fucking blast.

I also had my first rectal K experience the night before so my dissociative tolerance was higher than normal. I went for 225mg but not all of it absorbed into the water I think I got about 160 and I had a pretty good experience. I was anxious it would come on too strong and I would end up like throwing up/shitting wherever I was at when it hit me, but it was a very clean experience, much much better than nasal IMO because you don't have to taste that nasty sterile taste that reminds me of a hospital. I think it actually lasted decently longer too, I think it was over two hours.

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you guys might be a lil jealous, the other night I had sex after eating 40mg mxe, drinking a few IPAs, smoking some weed and taking a gram of mushroom shake that was from the bottom of what used to be an enormous bag of mushrooms then snorting 20 more mg MXE as the mushrooms were starting to kick in. It was very DMT like and I realized during sex that I was just absolutely lucky as fuck to be having sex on such a bangin cocktail of drugs. typically I can't get hard when I'm that far out of reality but this was a fucking blast.

I also had my first rectal K experience the night before so my dissociative tolerance was higher than normal. I went for 225mg but not all of it absorbed into the water I think I got about 160 and I had a pretty good experience. I was anxious it would come on too strong and I would end up like throwing up/shitting wherever I was at when it hit me, but it was a very clean experience, much much better than nasal IMO because you don't have to taste that nasty sterile taste that reminds me of a hospital. I think it actually lasted decently longer too, I think it was over two hours.

Did you cum? I know I cant come on MDMA (at least I cant come the same night i've taken mdma, i dont know if i could come during the actual high, probably not). Having an orgasm on LSD+weed is by far the most intense experience, i actually was frightened for a nanosecond there when I came. Its insane really. I'd like to have sex on LSD.. I only had sex on MDMA once but didnt come. The girl was rolling too and she was enjoying it so much that she actually shed tears of pure joy. Girls seems to get very good kicks for sex by MDMA (not saying guys dont)

Achieving an orgasm on MXE takes a long time for me too. Once I dosed and started to masturbate because I thought that I had time but i had to give it a great effort to actually come. Orgasms dont even feel that intense on MXE imo. I feel like MXE reduces my normally so high libido.
 
alas, I did not cum, but still the sensation of having sex alone in that state was definitely one of the most satisfying sensory experiences of my life.

I came on LSD basically the first time I was ever allowed to cum inside instead of pulling out and I will probably brag about it like an asshole for the rest of my life ;)

it felt like I was shocked by lightning and my DNA all simultaneously split in half and replicated themselves 8o

for about a half hour afterwards I couldn't stop talking about my "soulgasm" hahaha

edit: actually according to the person I got it from it was ALD-52. It definitely could have been but my erlich test can only confirm that it's a tryptamine/lysergamide and cannot distinguish between LSD and what is basically n-acetyl-LSD(ALD-52)

It was on a perforated blotter sheet that had a trippy image on the front and what looked like remnants of purple solvent on the back of it along with actual visible crystals on the side that didn't have an image. I ate the hit that had what looked like the biggest pile of crystals on it haha. anyone know what that solvent might have been and if it might indicate whether or not it was LSD or something else(possibly the legendary ALD-52)?
 
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you guys might be a lil jealous, the other night I had sex after eating 40mg mxe, drinking a few IPAs, smoking some weed and taking a gram of mushroom shake that was from the bottom of what used to be an enormous bag of mushrooms then snorting 20 more mg MXE as the mushrooms were starting to kick in. It was very DMT like and I realized during sex that I was just absolutely lucky as fuck to be having sex on such a bangin cocktail of drugs. typically I can't get hard when I'm that far out of reality but this was a fucking blast.

I also had my first rectal K experience the night before so my dissociative tolerance was higher than normal. I went for 225mg but not all of it absorbed into the water I think I got about 160 and I had a pretty good experience. I was anxious it would come on too strong and I would end up like throwing up/shitting wherever I was at when it hit me, but it was a very clean experience, much much better than nasal IMO because you don't have to taste that nasty sterile taste that reminds me of a hospital. I think it actually lasted decently longer too, I think it was over two hours.

My wife and I, about a year before we split, decided we were going to stop using condoms. I was so excited, it took a couple of months (of no sex at all) before she felt comfortable enough with it. The night that happened to be "the night" was the first time I tried MXE, it was at a Halloween party and I had a "low-moderate" dose, I would guess 20-25mg by the effects I had. I was a great experience and it was sometime later in the plateau/come-down that we got home and got down. I was still feeling it fairly well though. I was worried I wouldn't be able to do it but it actually worked out super well, I was still slightly anesthetized and wonky. It was fucking awesome (no pun intended) =D

EDIT: SONN, hilarious, I didn't realize your post was about a really similar story. :D
 
wonky sex can be great sex too, who else knows it? %) haha

however I just want to reiterate that the mushroom shake I ate was from bag that used to contain a half lb of cubensis and I ate the powder that had accumulated at the bottom. All I can say is wow! it snuck up on me because it was so smooth and I was on MXE but when I got in the bedroom I was seeing patterns floating through the air and was very pleasantly dissociated. During sex it got really crazy almost out of body like my spirit was flying up into all these patterns above my body, while my body was doing the repetitive act of having sex in an almost trancelike state. what's even funnier is that a lot of my visuals were related to the way her booty looked at the moment lol

it beat the hell out of any coked up sex i've ever had that's for sure and I've basically binged on coke and sex with my gf plenty of times. The first few weekends of us sleeping together were just us waking up and having coked up sex for hours then going out to a party at night haha

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my best friends from my gradeschool days are producing music and getting REALLY big. I'm talking like millions of listens big. They just remixed another rap song into a really awesome upbeat electronic track. It's got a really funky bassline, you guys should check it out

http://soundcloud.com/louisfuton/logic-ft-jhene-aiko-break-it-down-louis-futon-remix-1

LOUIS FUTON

they've already played a music festival and they're consistently making tracks that are kind of defining their own sound I think they might get huge.
 
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I'm taking it on the 26th of this month. I just want to do the best thing for the ibogaine to do its best work. I could switch to kratom, but if you say that it didn't deal with kratom too fully then maybe it would be best to stay on poppy tea. The thing about poppy tea that I am worried about is that it has such a long withdrawal. I don't want to get to the end of ibogaine's anti-withdrawal time and end up still being in withdrawal. Kratom withdrawal lasts 5 days maximum for me, but if ibogaine doesn't fully deal with it then maybe I don't want to switcj. I WAS going to take 1-2mg of suboxone when I felt bad enough that I couldn't handle it, then the next day take MXE or something, then sub again... for a total of maybe only 4 or 5 sub doses, spaced at least a day apart, with the intention of avoiding ever becoming dependent at all on sub. But if you think that's too risky then I won't. Everyone says sub doesn't play well with ibogaine at all.

Xork, what I would suggest based on my admittedly limited experience and the experiences of others would be to take the Kratom for two weeks prior....the aspects of Kratom withdrawal that Ibogaine doesn't deal as well with are the adrenergic/calcium channel blockade/NMDA antagonism/etc....these take Quite a prolonged period of use to really do the necessary up/down/all around regulation....two weeks and you'll just be basically maintaining the opiod addiction you have with the tea (likely a taper, as Kratom can't compete with PST for MOR agonism) and not accruing the more insidious aspects of long term Kratom addiction. This would give the tea's myriad alkaloids time to leach out and your body time to adjust....it might not be a cakewalk two weeks but should be more than manageable. And give the Ibogaine the best scenario to work it's magic.

I'd just keep the bupe away....the long half life, and the kappa antagonism are a no go!

Just my 2€
 
Wait, NKB (New Kids on the Block??) can we get a pic of that tie? With you in it of course. Preferably drunk, up for three days, and gazing at flowers. Por favor? (I say all these things with love ;))

Turns out this laptop has a camera. Wish granted:

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You may notice that my apéritif glass has a floral pattern, drinking some Risata Muscato D'asti (yeah, felt like buying actually good wine

I do not like those sunglasses, I used to have a pair that I really liked, but they irreparably broke (previously replaced arm left them perpetually askew for most of the time I owned them). If you look up SXUC 958 black and white retro wide rims, they were like those, if not those precisely.

I don't always wear a jacket, but when I do, I know that I am patrician in a plebeian's body. *sigh*



Oh, and you couldn't see in the other pic, but my cuff-links match my tie bar, silver & onyx:
WIN_20140414_165413-1.jpg
 
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you look like a reservoir dog

Why thank you.

Would I be Mr. Pink? I feel like PD would make that claim. (For those unfamiliar with the film, that would be Steve Buscemi's character, here's a great scene).

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Nice tie dude

Nature-patterned (noncasual) menswear is hard to find, and usually hideous. It's nice to run into a designer brand piece for cheap. :D
 
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you do look snazzy as fuck. like one of the more chill people that would be at a 'dinner party' for some reason haha

damn I'm watching symposia videos still. This one is from a veteran who had really bad PTSD who took MDMA in a therapeutic setting and it helped him. Apparently 20 veterans kill themselves a DAY! like shit that's a lot. He's talking about how all of his friends/fellow soldiers died on that day like 7 years ago. It's pretty intense, but it's good to put a face to these veterans who are benefitting from MDMA.

I feel like i'm rolling just watching these videos. He just described how awesome MDMA is so well. I wonder how much he took. 270mg was the BEST roll of my life but I wanna do it rectally next time 8o

I just love the feeling of not caring about anything, just loving everything and just being relaxed, ya know... "ecstacy" haha

http://stores.ebay.com/MAPS-Psychedelic-Research <-- apparently that revenue goes to MAPS and hopefully preventing the suicide of vets via MDMA assisted psychotherapy
 
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