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laika said:
what base is bossing up equivalent to

Sodium Hydroxide. Do not handle without proper safety equipment.

At first I read that as bass, and I was gonna reply bari sax. Please, somebody tell me that they get the joke.


bill said:
I guess third base?



Brief exposure can cause temporary or moderate residual injury. At least that's my understanding.



A quote for you PD socialites, or "swirlies" as the eldritch elders are wont to say:

We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.
 
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you been keeping it real entheo?

Keeping it so real! I've been busy applying to every business I can walk to the last few weeks. Really regretting getting 2 DUI's but I'm trying to stay in the zone of positivity. I saw my vocational rehab counselor last week and said that the state will pay for 4 years at the University of Missouri once I turn 23 :) So only 1 year and 10 days until I get a full ride I guess.

I'll be enjoying Grainstorm tonight as well as Enjoy By: 4-20-14 by Stone tonight boys and girls!
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Devestatingly Dank on the neck label ;)
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Lol

It's funny though for like the last week my dad has been suggesting we just go to Florida
So I might be down soon friendo

I'd def like to stop by again if it's cool

Of course. Would love to have you over again :)

I'm currently on a ridiculous downloading spree to try to catch up with whats going on in 2014 so far beyond the bands I'm exclusively loyal to. Now I'm branching off and downloading the bands that "I've heard of." The next spree of course is the random picks, if something in the band name, album title, or cover art catches my attention, I download it.
 
I haven't found anything yet. But I haven't tried searching for exclusive Post Rock releases yet either, which I will do. Crippled Black Phoenix has a new album out. I don't know if you consider them post rock or not.
 
Welp, guess I'll explore my resources and local stores in search of unwashed poppy seeds. I've heard poppy seed tea has a long duration, similar to methadone. Or just find a good source online through knowledgeable friends or even online buddies.

I think I'm really gonna need poppy seed tea, therefore a source for these unwashed poppy seeds. Also got some vendors that are barely decent :( might have found some that will be trust-worthy and actually be selling kratom with active mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine, and kratom's beautiful spectrum of alkaloids which vary between strains AFAIK.

Should I go with the kratom and testing these newly recommended online vendors or give one of my previous vendors who I had used when they were just starting up, another chance? I ordered some bail kratom, and I was mixing it in with apple sauce and using a spoon to measure my doses. I thought it was bunk shit, but it could have been top-notch product. When I really think back though, I couldn't feel ridiculously mammoth doses of hydrocodone or oxycodone, and morphine was only useful via IV ROA at that time. How did I really expect to feel kratom with a tolerance like that?!

Maybe I should give this US online, kratom vendor another shot? Because they've gained more popularity and customers, of which many rated their strain of choice very highly from this vendor hmmm

I know if I can find some unwashed poppies, poppy seed tea would be more appealing for a methadone habit. Kratom might feel good when I'm at Hell's gates, detoxing in a sweaty bed day and night. I'm fucking scared! haha

Xorkoth, I've read your posts and know you're very familiar with good-quality kratom and opioid WD. I trust your judgement, what do you think I should use to kick this 70mg methadone habit: kratom, poppy seed tea (I'm worried about finding them unwashed around Dayton, OH) or something stronger (ie morphine or codeine) ?
 
Xorkoth, I've read your posts and know you're very familiar with good-quality kratom and opioid WD. I trust your judgement, what do you think I should use to kick this 70mg methadone habit: kratom, poppy seed tea (I'm worried about finding them unwashed around Dayton, OH) or something stronger (ie morphine or codeine) ?

Hmm, well, honestly it's probably true that you won't feel kratom, or you will feel strange effects. Now that I am on poppy seed tea instead of kratom, I can't really get high from it. It does help with withdrawals but kratom has withdrawals too.

I have never withdrawn from methadone, but I hear it's the worst. I have withdrawn from poppy seed tea and it's also bad. I actually switched to poppy seed tea to get past kratom withdrawals (I used it 3-6 times a day for many years non-stop. For me kratom withdrawal has the worst leg restlessness of any opiate I have been addicted to, it's so bad I even get arm restlessness). I didn't mean to get addicted to it though, I could kick myself because I used it 3 times, every other day for 5 days. Kratom withdrawals lasts about 5 days, and after that I didn't take them again for 3 days and I felt fine. Then I liked poppy seed tea so more much more than I liked kratom with such a tolerance to it, so I used it a few more times, and what do you know, I was addicted to that.

I'd say poppy seed tea is probably better than methadone to come off of, but I wouldn't know for sure. It has a very long withdrawal, 2 weeks of acute withdrawal. It's pretty bad but I have an easier time with it than kratom withdrawal honestly, most people think that's weird but there it is, and at least 1 other person agrees with me. Poppy seed tea is my favorite opiate I've tried, including heroin. I love the long duration (like 18 hours long) and that the whole next day I feel fine also. It makes me feel very peaceful and happy, and I get motivated and sociable and want to do useful things.

Poppy seed tea contains morphine, codeine, and other opiate alkaloids, so it's actually stronger than the things you listed as "stronger". Probably not stronger than methadone though, but I'm pretty sure you'll be able to feel it.

I wish I could tell you what the best answer was for detoxing, but unfortunately I'm facing the same thing and can't tell what to do, except I'm on poppy seed tea. I did go cold turkey from it once. It was bad, I'm afraid to do it again. It seems like the best course of action would be to switch your addiction to something with a short half-life (codeine, kratom, heroin is pretty short too but I don't want to recommend that to you), and then go cold turkey on that or, if you have willpower, get some suboxone and take the minimum amount you can to keep away withdrawals and repeat as necessary for the ~1 week the withdrawal will last, and then stop. I am strongly considering that but I hate the thought of having to get re-addicted to kratom, seems counter-productive. And I'm afraid the withdrawal of poppy seed tea (2 weeks or so) would be too long for me to not get addicted to the suboxone which also has a super long withdrawal.
 
Hmm, well, honestly it's probably true that you won't feel kratom, or you will feel strange effects. Now that I am on poppy seed tea instead of kratom, I can't really get high from it. It does help with withdrawals but kratom has withdrawals too.

I have never withdrawn from methadone, but I hear it's the worst. I have withdrawn from poppy seed tea and it's also bad. I actually switched to poppy seed tea to get past kratom withdrawals (I used it 3-6 times a day for many years non-stop. For me kratom withdrawal has the worst leg restlessness of any opiate I have been addicted to, it's so bad I even get arm restlessness). I didn't mean to get addicted to it though, I could kick myself because I used it 3 times, every other day for 5 days. Kratom withdrawals lasts about 5 days, and after that I didn't take them again for 3 days and I felt fine. Then I liked poppy seed tea so more much more than I liked kratom with such a tolerance to it, so I used it a few more times, and what do you know, I was addicted to that.

I'd say poppy seed tea is probably better than methadone to come off of, but I wouldn't know for sure. It has a very long withdrawal, 2 weeks of acute withdrawal. It's pretty bad but I have an easier time with it than kratom withdrawal honestly, most people think that's weird but there it is, and at least 1 other person agrees with me. Poppy seed tea is my favorite opiate I've tried, including heroin. I love the long duration (like 18 hours long) and that the whole next day I feel fine also. It makes me feel very peaceful and happy, and I get motivated and sociable and want to do useful things.

Poppy seed tea contains morphine, codeine, and other opiate alkaloids, so it's actually stronger than the things you listed as "stronger". Probably not stronger than methadone though, but I'm pretty sure you'll be able to feel it.

I wish I could tell you what the best answer was for detoxing, but unfortunately I'm facing the same thing and can't tell what to do, except I'm on poppy seed tea. I did go cold turkey from it once. It was bad, I'm afraid to do it again. It seems like the best course of action would be to switch your addiction to something with a short half-life (codeine, kratom, heroin is pretty short too but I don't want to recommend that to you), and then go cold turkey on that or, if you have willpower, get some suboxone and take the minimum amount you can to keep away withdrawals and repeat as necessary for the ~1 week the withdrawal will last, and then stop. I am strongly considering that but I hate the thought of having to get re-addicted to kratom, seems counter-productive. And I'm afraid the withdrawal of poppy seed tea (2 weeks or so) would be too long for me to not get addicted to the suboxone which also has a super long withdrawal.

I was only talking about stronger full-agonist opioids used for detox like codeine and morphine often is in particular countries. Stronger esp in comparison to partial-agonist bupe or the quasi-opioid tramadol and metabolites.

Stronger to me, after a 6 year addiction to IV China White and ECP No.4 dope is fentanyl, oxymorphone, IV hydromorphone, and obviously, IV heroin.

Honestly, I'll probably score a few MS. Contin if cheap and preferably high-mg morphine pills and I think codeine sounds appropriate. If not the pharma-route, then I want to find quality kratom heavy in alkaloids and a sedating strain. Might go the partial-agonist route with bupe for a short-term taper. PST does sound like my cup of tea (pun intended hah) with the spectrum of long-duration effects, potency, and dreamy euphoria I could see it becoming another long-term crutch in my life. Might be worth a try if I can scope out unwashed seeds locally.

Ugh, I feel dopesick just thinking about my future WD's. I got comfortable on 70mg's of methadone daily for these past ~8 months, but I'm sick of this fucking clinic which happens to be the only MMT clinic in Dayton, OH. Ohio sucks mane. For those 8 months of methadone comfort, I have hell to pay.
 
Got my ibo session/RXment planned for tomorrow evening, family supporting me and backing me, I have K sitting with me for the session who has been coached by my ibogaine practitioner. I had a full physical exam last monday when I had my counseling session so I know my ticker is in good condition, I will have a BP taking machine and K who has been coached on how often to take it, when to call 911, etc, so yeah...things are looking up.

I don't know what I did to deserve all of this wonderful support and patience that everyone has shown me (not to mention financial backing for those who have help me that way) but I won't take it for granted the way I think I have until a few days ago...and I really mean that. I didn't mean to take things for granted either but I don't think I really 'got it' until a few days ago...but better late than never.
 
It sounds like you're in a pretty good place for this, MGS... good luck to you, I'm sincerely sending positive vibes for you and hoping it will stick this time. <3

So my date got cancelled for today... I was actually hoping she would want to reschedule because I'm feeling kind of tired and antisocial today, and then she messaged me basically saying the same thing, and could we reschedule. So, good thing in the end. I think I am going to go to Steak n Shake tonight for dinner, one opened in town recently and I have been meaning to go because, being from Illinois, I absolutely love Steak n Shake.

Oh, and the sun just came out! It was raining all night and morning, nice to see the sun. :)
 
I'm rooting for you mgs ;)


Thanks brother I really appreciate it. I feel a little unworthy of it all but I also know the time for beating myself up for my mistakes is over, it is time to get healthy and to move forward.

It sounds like you're in a pretty good place for this, MGS... good luck to you, I'm sincerely sending positive vibes for you and hoping it will stick this time. <3

Thank you too Xork. You know the thing is, the ibogaine didn't fail me. I wasn't even craving them when I went back, I don't want to get into my thought process here but you and I have spoken about it you know what I was thinking, i was out of my mind. I was a very sick man when I made those decisions, i wasn't thinking that I would have to deal with addiction, it was more of an exit plan. Very sick man but I have psychotherapy sessions scheduled now and unlike last year...I will have follow up therapy and learn how to deal with these crisis as they arise. My best friend told me that I will have many more 'this is the worst day of my life' before my life is over so yeah....need to get help (and I will.)

Sorry your date got canceled. There is always next weekend.

Hmm Steak and Shake...I think that is what is for dinner, that sounds good, I haven't eaten crap in a long time and I need the strength I am sure a burger from there will provide.
 
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I'm glad to hear you have follow-up therapy scheduled, I think that's a good thing for sure. :) You're a good guy and I hate that you've been suffering so much. We all deserve happiness and I'm really thankful you're taking steps for yourself to achieve this.
 
I think I'm going to steak and shake for lunch now :)

MGS you know I support you 100% and you will be in my thoughts. I'm glad we've had the opportunity to explore your needs and I'm always hear to help no matter what. Say hello to the African rainforest spirits for me.
 
I think I'm going to steak and shake for lunch now :)

MGS you know I support you 100% and you will be in my thoughts. I'm glad we've had the opportunity to explore your needs and I'm always hear to help no matter what. Say hello to the African rainforest spirits for me.

I will and Thanatos you were the only person I felt comfortable confessing everything to during this past month. I don't know what I would have done if I didn't have your brain to help me through this mess. Thank you so many times over for standing by me. <3
 
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