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I've tried oxycodone once or twice, it was nice high but didnt really blow me away - I think you need to get a little used to them and before you know it you're fucked.. doesnt it go something like that? I hated buprenorphine. Its funny how buprenorphine is the most abused opioid in Finland.
 
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xammy said:
I've tried oxycodone once or twice, it was nice high but didnt really blow me away - I think you need to get a little used to them and before you know it you're fucked.. doesnt it go something like that? I hated buprenorphine. Its funny how buprenorphine is the most abused opioid in Finland.
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Yeah, it takes weeks or months to become addicted to opiates. I played with opiates on a weekend basis from age 14-age 26 and never developed a physical addiction. I think you have to try to get addicted to them to get addicted. For me, it was literally a very conscious decision.
 
Xorky, to your question regarding sub wd
Yes it can be bad if you use it for an extended period of time

But I kicked a long nasty iv h habit using sub
I started out at 6-7mg and tapered about one mg a day for just 7 days and it blew my mind how much easier it made my wd

I was feeling pretty much at 100%, eating regularly, and sleeping fine already around the two week mark, it's def worth it if you use it right
 
Autechre is my best friend's all time favorite band

If you think that's weird give this a listen



I really wanna listen to that next time I'm on a psyche+dissociative combo 8o

the "riff" (if you can call it that) at ~:57 seconds is like so angry sounding to me I fuckin love it =D

to anyone normal it sounds abrasive but when you can experience it in a musical way it's really gratifying
 
xork said:
I am afraid of my own brain
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That's what brought me to therapy.


mgs said:
ruined....perfect
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Perfect is an evil word, and I mean that with utmost seriousness. If you think it, rewind and choose another word. Where there is perfect, ruined follows. When something is ruined, perfect will be applied retroactively, a setback cascading into complete failure at life. I tend to think in that dichotomy as well, in fact, I use the same two words.
 
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Dogs we gon git dat d. I got a dude who gon front tha lmz 2 bags and i got 10 so we gettin 3. Im splittin it with my dude who usually middlemans when i need a ride but this time were going to one of my dealers.
Its supposedly fire according to a text message from this dealer.
He doesnt speak english that well imo and he didnt understand what i wanted when i asked for a front lol.
im excited already. I cant fucking wait. I can never wait, everybody who cops with me gets mad at me cause i always gotta do a shot as soon as we cop in the car.
 
^ perfect example. I remember you fresh and clean LLama, a few years back, inquiring about opiates....happens SO often in PD...sigh.

Good move MGS, I'm feeling for you man, and rooting for you. You can do this...such things seem insurmountable at the time, and it is the worst feeling in the world....But they pass

Edit-redacted per the recipients request :)

(more coming)

Xoxo
 
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Had a bag and a half of shit imo quality heroin and im waiting for this 90mg d amp to kick in.
Found out my main heroin dealer will still sell so no more new guy aka mr inconsistant bags. My other guys shit is fire every time.
 
Sup nevah
Yo dogs i wanna get on subs and quit dope.
I cant do it without subs cause when ive just stopped, its not wd but intense cravings. And ive been on naltrexone before and that just made me shoot dope even more..
but ive noticed online mad people talking about kratom/pst/lope "wd" and wanting to get on subs and shit and im like wtf.
when i tried to get subs i was basically told i come across as someone whod sell them for heroin...
What doctor will give subs for minor ass opiate "addiction" liek kratom/pst/shit like codeine and hydros? sub is way more addictive an ld harder to get off than dope even let alone imo "pussy" legal opiates...
noticed the opiate addiction talk in herw and figured id chip in. Not trying to be mean but ive been iving heroin for more than a year now, snorting heroin for like 2 years so imo i can talk about opiate addiction. When i was "addicted" to speed i didnt turn into a lieing, cheating, stealing piece of shit the way i did once i was on daily heroin use....
i regret ever deciding to snort heroin the first few times. I didnt even really like it at first but boredom and cash flow for the first time in my life led me to start snorting heroin and since then my life has gotten so much worse. yet i still find myself craving a shot or some speed every day. I said id never shoot drugs, and once i tried iv i said id never iv heroin and here i am, an iv heroin user. I recently (a month ago) tried smoking crack which i saidbid never do even after dope. But thankfully the crack i smoked was apparently garbage and it only made me feel more awake to shoot more dope. I was shooting crack last week and i didnt like it much. the dude who got me it, a middleman who gets me dope said he didntbthink he should cop it for me because id get addicted but thankfully i dont like cocaine.
Heroin is so insidious and sinister, and i couldnt see that when i started snorting bags. i wish i would have known what heroin would lead me to do, id have never started had i known...
im sick of chasing the high 24/7 and not being interested in anything else. Dope is almost the only way i can feel happy and not beat myself up over what i became, a common junkie, and a young one at that.
i wish i would have just overdosed and not hurt everybody so much with what ive done to get dope.
the fucked up thing is that originally i thought opiates felt worse than being sober like when i did painkillers a few times in HS. Even when i first got on heroin i didnt like the effect that much, i mainly did it because i simply could and i was bored in the beginning. Now heroin is my favorite thing in life and without it i feel depressed, hopeless, anxious, and socially rejected. heroin makes me forget about everything and lets me feel good for a few hpurs till i run out. Heroin is sadly what i spend most of my time thinking about and chasing. Its a shit lifestyle that i feel trapped in, and im scared to quit because of the void quitting would leave in my life.
 
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I feel really dumb for some of the extremely revealing public posts I made today. Deleted most of em but you have a few quotes are still out there, but I'll survive.

I have been out of my mind until tonight when I involved my family and reached out for some help. I have been alone and it drove me insane(er). But tonight I had a moment of clarity and realized I don't need to be that detailed. The important thing is I am getting help.

It's been rough but thanks for hearing me out everybody. I am safe now and I haven't been for the past month. So it is a good night.

And if you wanna help a brother save face, go ahead and remove any mgs quotes about relationships and shit. That's just embarrassing so I'd really appreciate it if they would just be something we laugh about amongst ourselves. Please. :)
 
Heroin ruined my first relationship, and a very special one at that with an amazing girl. Heroin ruined it for both of us and led to me being dumped and me feeling unsatisfied with her due to the way she reacted to my using and the way she was living/her own use, albeit far less serious and heavy as mine was.
She said i picked the needle over her, but i love her more than ill ever love heroin, heroin just took hold of me and wouldnt let go and changed me into a junkie first, boyfriend 2nd. I wish my love for her was enough to break heroins grip on me. she makes me happiee than heroin ever will yet i cant stop using even for her, even when i really do try. I feel as if the desire to use will never diminish or leave my mind, and that forever ill be either using drugs or wanting to be using drugs.
and i cant use most drugs in moderation, most drugs i cant control my use and once i start, i cant stop using. And i need to use drugs every day or else i will sit and obsess over using until i can get more. lately ive been using heroin maybe 2 days a week but mostly in a binge where i spend between 100-200 at once and get at least a bundle and use it all up in half a day, and have spent all my money the day i get paid pr the day after, all on drugs aside from paying certain obligations.
And my binges generally end up with me so high i cant function and i get caught. high to the point where falling out from shooting too much heroin happens every time i get a good amount of money, which is disturbing.
I feel as if i was born a screwup and will always be a screwup. i just want to be happy and normal but instead i end up being a fuckup junkie whos fucked everything up in life.
 
LSDMDMA&12221417 said:
Heroin ruined my first relationship, and a very special one at that with an amazing girl. Heroin ruined it for both of us and led to me being dumped and me feeling unsatisfied with her due to the way she reacted to my using and the way she was living/her own use, albeit far less serious and heavy as mine was.
She said i picked the needle over her, but i love her more than ill ever love heroin, heroin just took hold of me and wouldnt let go and changed me into a junkie first, boyfriend 2nd. I wish my love for her was enough to break heroins grip on me. she makes me happiee than heroin ever will yet i cant stop using even for her, even when i really do try. I feel as if the desire to use will never diminish or leave my mind, and that forever ill be either using drugs or wanting to be using drugs.
and i cant use most drugs in moderation, most drugs i cant control my use and once i start, i cant stop using. And i need to use drugs every day or else i will sit and obsess over using until i can get more. lately ive been using heroin maybe 2 days a week but mostly in a binge where i spend between 100-200 at once and get at least a bundle and use it all up in half a day, and have spent all my money the day i get paid pr the day after, all on drugs aside from paying certain obligations.
And my binges generally end up with me so high i cant function and i get caught. high to the point where falling out from shooting too much heroin happens every time i get a good amount of money, which is disturbing.
I feel as if i was born a screwup and will always be a screwup. i just want to be happy and normal but instead i end up being a fuckup junkie whos fucked everything up in life.
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Damn dude. I hear where you're coming from. But you don't have any kind of hobbies at all that you can slowly start trying to introduce back into your life or anything?
 
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I've been trying to find an addiction medicine doctor, I left a message with the recommended one but he hasn't called back yet. I am considering switching back to kratom for a bit because the withdrawal is so short, and then obtaining some suboxone and using a very low dose whenever needed for the 5-6 days kratom withdrawal lasts, and then done. I'm a little nervous though because I hear suboxone has its own pretty terrible and long-lasting withdrawal and I would hate if I switched my addiction to that in the process.
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I've heard of people getting off opiates in a weekend, more or less, using a bupe taper. YMMV & I don't remember anything specific about it, but if you are going to do the bupe route, use it as a quick taper & end. Don't use it as a protracted taper, unless you plan on some sort of maintenance.

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I've heard of people getting off opiates in a weekend, more or less, using a bupe taper. YMMV & I don't remember anything specific about it, but if you are going to do the bupe route, use it as a quick taper & end. Don't use it as a protracted taper, unless you plan on some sort of maintenance.

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This. I guess that was my problem with bupe...I went on it and never went off it until I tried to get off it...at which point I was hooked. Iboga is a miracle...I still think every junkie owes themselves that moment of truth ibogaine provides but in the short term...if you can use subs to detox and not get stuck on subs then I am sure it is a sort of miracle in and of itself
 
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