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Wow, I have a chance to buy 1,7mg DOC blotters. I didn't expect to see those here.. Maybe i'll place an order when i get my next salary. Never tried DOC before
 
I like fresh salvia quids quite a bit...smoking not so much..

@ Roger - as I trust your opinion on everything else I'll give it a fresh shot. Thanks for the link, will do...

To be clear, I do like Anthem of the Sun, aoxomoma (spelling?? But a fantastic ketamine album!) and Live/Dead...Workingmans Dead has a special place in my heart too, in a totally different way. I will admit not having listened much of their live stuff...I loved the stuff with Pigpen, but haven't heard much after that. My dad, an arbiter of good taste if there ever was one, kinda held the same opinions as me, but recently was going on and on about some of the Dicks Picks, from the era you mentioned. Mind you, this was shortly after I gave him a vial of good Lucy, so I think your advice holds some merit ;) I think I just expected their music to be way more in-your-face psychedelic, but I'm gathering it is a little more complex than that! I'll give it an honest shot!

I also great enjoyed their various autobiographies, and love the stuff Garcia did with Grisman. So, long story short, I will dig deeper with fresh ears, quite possibly ears enhanced with Lysergic frosting :D

@ Shammy - thanks, as always ;) Low, a fantastic band and the originators of "slow -core", did a fantastic cover of "Transmission"...Bedhead also do a lovely version of "Disorder"...there are actually quite a few decent JD covers out there, I'm just not on the right device to find and link them at the moment!

@knows better than he thinks - you aren't still in DC are you? I assumed back in Cali....I too had a fondness for the Lincoln Memorial...the first time I went to the various monuments in DC I was just going through the motions....I had been up all night on LSD, driving north from the Carolinas en route to NYC, and decided to drop in. The Lincoln Memorial brought me to tears, as did several others...but that one was the best. I didn't expect any emotional reaction to any of it, just novelty or duty or what have you, but I was surprisingly moved...I swore off America again shortly thereafter and moved back overseas to "work", but subsequent revisits always strike a chord...I spent many a year living overseas but after getting busted have been mostly here, save for one great probation violation in 2010 when I went to live in India and Nepal for a year...came back, paid the price, and haven't been able to leave since....it's almost over though. Been bouncing coast to coast, but have been the most stationary ever (save for prison har har) the last two years, farming in the NE. A very different world from my west coast roots, but it's been great. What am I rambling on about? Dunno....that try as I did, as I might, I am still and always will be an American, despite some soul twisting objections and frustrations about certain things. Shit is in my blood, even as the son of immigrants! So yeah, Lincoln Memorial FTW. :?

Carry on...
 
imo always dose low for your first time with a new substance. 1.7mg isn't going to have you seeing machine elves or anything, but its enough to let you get a feel for how your body reacts, as well as add a nice sparkle to your day.... good starter dose i'd say.

keep in mind that DOC can take a solid three hours to start affecting you.
 
Yeah, I still want to feel the effects and get an idea whats it like, 1.7mg will give me that? Ofc high doses are a whole different story.. I have 2 days work left, then I'm free to trip any day for at least two weeks :)

Is cannabis good with DOC? Where's Xorkoth, he seems to be some kind of DOC expert :D
 
yeah 1.7mg should give you an idea at least. some people react more strongly / less strongly to DOC, though, and you won't know for sure til you take it. 1.7mg could be a really full trip, or it might be more of a "i can sort of feel it" thing.

cannabis mixes okay with DOC in my experience... mixed with high doses it can make the DOC more confusing, but at 1.7mg it should be a great combo.

i know about your experience with dissociatives, what other psychedelics have you taken in the past tho?
 
I've taken 2C-B (first psychedelic ever), shrooms, AL-LAD (pretty heroic dose) and aMT (low dose)
 
xammy said:
Yeah, I still want to feel the effects and get an idea whats it like, 1.7mg will give me that? Ofc high doses are a whole different story.. I have 2 days work left, then I'm free to trip any day for at least two weeks :)

Is cannabis good with DOC? Where's Xorkoth, he seems to be some kind of DOC expert :D
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Cannabis is definitely good with DOC. 1.7mg is a good first dose, you'll get solid effect from that. Phenibut and the like are also good with DOC. I usually start coming up at 45 minutes to an hour, and full effects are reached by 3 hours or so, then it peaks over hours 3-6 or so, and then slowly trails off. It lasts a long time, I took it a few days ago at 10am and I fell asleep with no problems at 4am, however I was very drunk.

Cannabis can indeed make the trip a bit more confusing, but at 1.7mg it shouldn't be a problem. I usually smoke a hit or two at about the 2 hour mark. DOC can produce some come-up weirdness until full effect are reached and cannabis seems to help it kick into the main stage.
 
Yeah I definitely need to take it in the morning after breakfast.. I suppose you're not very hungry during the trip? It is ok to start drinking in end of the trip to get some sleep?

Is DOC active orally so you can swallow the blotter or do you have to keep it in your mouth?
 
Xork, I have a 2mg blotter of DOC. If I cut it into quarters and eat one of the quarters will it act as a nice functional stimulant where I can get things done and be eager to go out and run errands or will it be something I'd want the opportunity to relax on?
 
It's active orally for sure, I have never used it any other way except once in the midst of using it very frequently I plugged it... but couldn't really draw conclusions as my tolerance was so high.

Drinking on it is fine actually, sometimes I like to drink on it because it makes me able to drink a lot more and have better effects from the alcohol than I normally experience from drinking. When I took it a few days ago, I went to celebrate a friend's birthday 12 hours later, I was still tripping pretty hard and I drank a lot, it was super fun. :)
 
Laika said:
Xork, I have a 2mg blotter of DOC. If I cut it into quarters and eat one of the quarters will it act as a nice functional stimulant where I can get things done and be eager to go out and run errands or will it be something I'd want the opportunity to relax on?
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Yeah .5mg is a fine functional dose. You won't really trip hard, but you'll definitely feel it (at least I do, and Delsyd had just slightly more than that last summer when we went camping at the beach and he really enjoyed it). It will probably provide you with a few hours of feeling a bit shaky and then it should level out into a nice euphoric state that has mental stimulation and physical energy (DOC doesn't really make me stimulated in the same sense as, say, amphetamine does, it's more of a mental/emotional stimulation and the inability to get tired).
 
^looks nice

This is where I live, my house is in the pic :)
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Xorkoth said:
Yeah .5mg is a fine functional dose. You won't really trip hard, but you'll definitely feel it (at least I do, and Delsyd had just slightly more than that last summer when we went camping at the beach and he really enjoyed it). It will probably provide you with a few hours of feeling a bit shaky and then it should level out into a nice euphoric state that has mental stimulation and physical energy (DOC doesn't really make me stimulated in the same sense as, say, amphetamine does, it's more of a mental/emotional stimulation and the inability to get tired).
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Cool thanks. I was kinda hoping it would be like adderall with a bit of a sparkle to it. I want to do a full dose on it, but I've also been needing to get some things done and have been totally out of functional stims. If I could pull of a drawing or a song on a low dose that would be awesome. Going to have to try it one of these days and get started really early.
 
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