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lol...

Must be cause inflammation terms carry the postfix -itis. ;p

T-0:20 till jour de la byciclette, and bd! I just returned from an opera version of Bach's Johns Passion <3 Don't know if it's the aniracetam+noopept or the autism that helped with the intensity but I was overwhelmed and tearing after about 2 minutes. 8o

Xorkoth, apparently ibogaine is not seriously dangerous but the bad or extra heavy duty reactions that are rumored to have happened seem to be from addicts who had not tapered or kicked it yet. Are you doing alright with the alternating day etc tapering stuff? From the limited knowledge I have about this, I would say it would probably be best if you did the ibogaine in a late stage of withdrawals so that it can really work as a bridge out of that hellish territory you must be in. Will you consider trying that, if you gather more evidence that it would be best? And bearing in mind that you might thank yourself so much later and that relief (even if via semi harsh messenger) is close enough to say ahoy.
I do realize that either way it must suck more balls than a pool table. :\ I hope you can confide in your sitters / guides.

Xammy, AMT is very cool and pleasant but some complaints I might have is that it can occasionally cause a notorious nauseating body load which unlike with most purge experience is long and nagging instead of violent. Besides that I don't think AMT is really transcendental or at least I have never pushed the dosage to reach a state where I am in an epic story of impressive coherence. Instead it is plenty trancy floaty, magically sparkly, euphoric and empathogenic and zonked out in a stimmy way (not as narcotically oceanic as MDAI, but still definitely on the serotonergic side of things rather than the catecholaminergic)... but yeah I imagine some decent bud and maybe some other enhancing additions could really seal the deal. DOB was like that as well in a way that is in some ways similar (but definitely dissimilar in other ways).
 
Fuck just ate so many pregabalin. I can feel 'em swoonin' me now. I have a bottle of cruzon 151 rum, some MXE, 2c-P, and 6-APDB. Oh and some noids, as well as a gram of Etizolam.

Looks like it's time to get fucked!


Let the binge begin! See you guys in a second(not really....ninty nine cents say I post during it!)!
 
Safe travels hee hee ..

I was just denied a pregabalin script :p
High doses of pregabalin / gabapentin have made me practically catatonic in the past, but I rate those experiences rather highly... zomg, can't imagine combo's with mentioned drugs tho! Be careful with the MXE, it reacts weirdly with a lot of drugs.
 
This is mostly my experience too, although my first go was the more lucid experience and my second (which was just with pure ibogaine hcl) was very much chaotic and an ordeal experience. Xor, I cannot WAIT to hear from you about a month after your session.

Me, I'm doing very well. A recent visit from Cousin Fatima and some DMT has mostly completed my iboga session, and I am on the up again. :)

amanitadine said:
The general consensus is just that you should be "sick"....not necessarily sicker than shit, but sick nonetheless. Taken in the quantities it is (+1g) Ibogaine is pretty effective as a MOR agonist, and nor-Ibo even stronger. And given the hefty NMDA antagonism , the potential for overdose if someone was still on an active dose of say, heroin, is pretty real. Also, the longer you wait, the greater your relief will be, and you shave hours or a day or however long you go off of your recovery time.

I seem to metabolize it quickly, and have basically no fat on me. But what fat I have was enough to soak up enough nor-Ibo that I was still seeing great tracers in the early morning and late night for 4 days or so. The primary "trip" for me was about 4 hours long, followed by a few hours of ramping down of the psychedelic phase, and then about 20 hours of a kind of physical restlessness and an introspective headspace. Both times I wanted to knock myself out to get some sleep, and thought "this didn't work!" (very very common) but really this space, that seems so benign compared to the mega trip, is where the magic thinking happens in retrospect. Most people, myself included, have a day of pretty intense grey-ness, malaise, and depression post Iboga. Then you get a little sleep and wake up feeling very different! Battered, but a whole new lease on things, and each day gets better from there on out.....

To answer your question ;) : the first time I waited 8 hours post Kratom, and took 100 mg of Ibogaine, and an hour later took 1 g and 750mg of TA. This was more than enough....my next trip was more lucid and more constructive...

Second time I waited 5 hours (I start to feel withdrawal from Kratom at 3.5-4th post ingestion) and took 1g Ibogaine and 350 mg TA.....like I said, this trip was much deeper, and I actually did get some insight and great visions, rather than just the chaos and hallucinations of the first session...I had one otherworldly and amazing thing happen the first trip, but I'll save that for the trip report I will someday write.....I was craving Kratom/opioids after both times, but not anything near where I normally would. So far so good on the second session...it's been around a month I think :)

It is powerful, but very gentle as well. Coming from your tripping background it will be a cakewalk. I was nervous at first, but now wouldn't hesitate. As a stand along psychedelic it is class! Taxing and draining, but one of the best!


If you sincerely want to kick opioids, which by all accounts it seems you do, Iboga can give you the leg up to do so.
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Come on Slip I super <3 the concern but this is something I've been doing for years now, sure everyone who does things for years dies suddenly but....... Comically as well just by random occurrences, I've combined MXE the most with 6-APBD, never has it felt dangerous, only beautiful. The one or two times I combined it with 2c-P it was pretty easy but honestly my only reason for doing much more than I've done is BDay, though I'll probably take it easy.

In other news I might be Helped?!?! with a ketamine script, just got my pregabalin upped so the remainder were fair game for my stomach.

Happy tricycle dash travels everyone!<3
 
morninggloryseed said:
This is mostly my experience too, although my first go was the more lucid experience and my second (which was just with pure ibogaine hcl) was very much chaotic and an ordeal experience. Xor, I cannot WAIT to hear from you about a month after your session.

Me, I'm doing very well. A recent visit from Cousin Fatima and some DMT has mostly completed my iboga session, and I am on the up again. :)
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That's good to hear MGS, big ups :)
 
I found the concerns with MXE interactions to be overplayed.. for every person who reports VERY worrying problems, there are 2-3 who say they thought it was great. Obviously it still shouldn't be recommended to first timers, as it's better to just avoid dangerous interactions than it is to try and figure out if it's going to send you to the hospital or not.



Got some high quality medibles for tomorrow and a vast array of psychedelics.. hopefully I can convince my friends to candyflip haha
 
I agree, I've always found it to be a good combo. I think the key is getting doses right, which for me always means a lower dose of MXE, and I try not to go over board with the stim either, redosing only once or not at all.
200mg M1 and 30-60mg MXE on the comedown is a fun hedonistic trip.
Ofcourse YMMV and all that.
 
Solipsis said:
Xorkoth, apparently ibogaine is not seriously dangerous but the bad or extra heavy duty reactions that are rumored to have happened seem to be from addicts who had not tapered or kicked it yet. Are you doing alright with the alternating day etc tapering stuff? From the limited knowledge I have about this, I would say it would probably be best if you did the ibogaine in a late stage of withdrawals so that it can really work as a bridge out of that hellish territory you must be in. Will you consider trying that, if you gather more evidence that it would be best? And bearing in mind that you might thank yourself so much later and that relief (even if via semi harsh messenger) is close enough to say ahoy.
I do realize that either way it must suck more balls than a pool table. :\ I hope you can confide in your sitters / guides.
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That is my plan, today was my last day of poppy tea and I had been gradually tapering. On Sunday I am going to take 3-4mg of suboxone, then maybe 1 or 2 more times but done with the suboxone by Wednesday, just to help rapidly decrease my tolerance. Then I will use loperamide as needed to take the edge off and just smoke/etc until Saturday, when it's time to do the ibogaine. I want to have no suboxone in my system at all but I have it and I think it will make the first few days of withdrawal much more bearable and help my tolerance to rapidly lower. Then I will just tough out a few days.

In an ideal world I would have already detoxed entirely by then, but if I could do that at will, I probably wouldn't be taking ibogaine right now. :\
 
Help?!?! said:
Come on Slip I super <3 the concern but this is something I've been doing for years now, sure everyone who does things for years dies suddenly but....... Comically as well just by random occurrences, I've combined MXE the most with 6-APBD, never has it felt dangerous, only beautiful. The one or two times I combined it with 2c-P it was pretty easy but honestly my only reason for doing much more than I've done is BDay, though I'll probably take it easy.

In other news I might be Helped?!?! with a ketamine script, just got my pregabalin upped so the remainder were fair game for my stomach.

Happy tricycle dash travels everyone!<3
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dude, ketamine prescription would be AMAZING

what do i need to say to my doctor to get that? :D
 
I've never heard of a doctor prescribing ketamine... I thought they just used it for anesthesia. What is it prescribed to you for?

I had ordered 3 LSZ blotters quite some time ago, in the same order as my original order of psychedelics when I came back. It was sent separated from a different country than the rest of the order, and it never came. After 36 days, they finally thought it was long enough to reship. It was weird, I never got a letter from customs, it just never came. Anyway, they were going to reship but several days before they decided it was time, they ran out of LSZ. :p
 
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Yeah I have followed some of that, I am just surprised that in this country any doctors would actually prescribe it, since it's a well-known drug people take to get high and enjoy. To me that speaks of progress in moving away from our puritanical and heavily politicized view of drugs.
 
^ idk, in some ways there does seem to be a very puritanical stance on drugs -- but then also, amphetaine is one of the most abusable and one of the most highly prescribed drugs in america. also, opiates.

perhaps it just goes to show that the gatekeepers often don't know WTF they're doing.

its nice though in the rare instances when they do get it right. ketamine is a wonderdrug for a lot of people, when it is used appropriately.
 
Every man, woman and child should be given ketamine. That's what taxes are for..


Delsyd said:
I agree, I've always found it to be a good combo. I think the key is getting doses right, which for me always means a lower dose of MXE, and I try not to go over board with the stim either, redosing only once or not at all.
200mg M1 and 30-60mg MXE on the comedown is a fun hedonistic trip.
Ofcourse YMMV and all that.
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I find the time of dosing to be equally as important, taking a dose right after MDMA seems to cause problems but on the comedown I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think I may start a thread separate of the MXE combo thread to see if we can't clear things up a bit more (though someone else, feel free to save me the typing lol)
 
I feel like we should emphasize the possible danger and using extreme caution, simply because a certain percentage of people experience negative side effects that may be quite dangerous. But I definitely acknowledge that for others, it doesn't react that way.
 
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