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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Firly Swolks Discussing Mitillating Tatters Fithout Wilters

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i am prescribed Lyrica for my neuropathy, i usually just take it as directed, but last night i took 600mg of it. and damn am i still feeling it 12 hours later.
 
I'm so sorry to read that. :(

For me 2018 hasn't started out too well either. I spent one week in a psychiatric hospital, because of a drug induced psychosis. At least I hope that is what it was, the alternative would be much scarier. :\
 
I got back in touch after quite a while with a friend who I know was close with Laika and his girlfriend. It's never fun being the bearer of bad news. :( Wish I would have reached out to this friend just to see what was up and catch up, instead of because of this.

tokezu said:
I spent one week in a psychiatric hospital, because of a drug induced psychosis. At least I hope that is what it was, the alternative would be much scarier. :\
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If drugs were involved, then it seems most likely that it was drug-induced. Take care, man.
 
tokezu said:
I'm so sorry to read that. :(

For me 2018 hasn't started out too well either. I spent one week in a psychiatric hospital, because of a drug induced psychosis. At least I hope that is what it was, the alternative would be much scarier. :\
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Do tell, what happened mate? What drug/s do you think caused it?

Xorkoth said:
I got back in touch after quite a while with a friend who I know was close with Laika and his girlfriend. It's never fun being the bearer of bad news. :( Wish I would have reached out to this friend just to see what was up and catch up, instead of because of this.
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And here I thought telling my one friend that our other friend sold their communal bong a year ago and didn't give him his half was tough...

I have fond memories of my interactions with laika. I remember when I first saw Animal Collective, he told me about how he met the band and hung out with them after a concert. I remember feeling so jealous heh... that guy was always so connected with the best of modern psychedelic bands. A true psychedelic soul.
 
I'm not sure. It felt like some beings from another universe took a trip through a wormhole all the way to my cozy little apartment to rape and murder me and then take my consciousness/soul/spirit/whathaveyou with them for something even worse. But it's entirely possible that it was just another human being who wanted me to feel like that was what was happening for whatever fucked up reason. Or I simply projected outwards those parts of my psyche that work against my best interest, that I often feel helpless against (like depression, procrastination and such). Either way I managed to tell whatever it was to fuck off because I don't consent to shenanigans like that. It was clear that it needed my consent and put a lot of pressure on me to agree to something that I didn't really understand. Good thing I remembered good old Robert Anton Wilsons advice for hairy situations like that: Banish it with laughter! Not that that's easy to do that in such a situation, but it really kind of worked I think.

Worst new years eve ever... Then I was up for the next two days except for two hours sleeping on the couch (thinking my bed was cursed or something like that) still feeling some evil presence until I managed to bring up the courage to go to the hospital. And yes, drugs definitely had at least a big part in it. I was on 6-APB and ALD-52. A really nice combination... usually. But as weird as it may be, I think I can learn something from that experience. And if that's the case I can't really call it a 'bad trip'. Time will tell...
 
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Geez that's crazy. My oldest friend, who is really strung out on meth (like, extendedly and badly) recently told me this group of meth head con-men (he is obsessed with this idea) raped him on film. He also told the same story as he was forced to make a porn. Either way he said it's because they want everyone to think he's crazy so they can steal his identity (this is the reason he gives for everything). He believes it utterly I think, even though he also uses it to manipulate people into feeling sorry for him and giving him money. It's really fucked up. He actually just started texting me about how some workmen saw proof because when they were sneaking through passages behind his walls, they broke a water main, and how they used his own soldering iron to sabotage his phone.

I'm glad you went to the hospital, my friend is psychotic and refuses any help, it's everyone else who is fucked up because they won't believe him. It's been months and months now, progressively worse and worse. I'm fearing for his long-term sanity at this point, constant sleep deprivation and meth and active psychosis has to make it more and more likely you can't come back, I would think.
 
Xorkoth said:
I'm glad you went to the hospital
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Yeah me too. I know someone who also had a drug induced psychosis a few years ago and went to the same hospital and they really helped him and didn't look down on him because it was drug related. So that gave me some confidence that this was the right choice. I am not sure what I would have done without knowing his story.

Looking back on it now it's pretty clear that I went into full paranoia mode. For example I thought the elderly woman living in the apartment above me must be in on it, having some kind of machine sending mind altering signals down at me. The most disturbing stuff was dissociating from my own body and experiencing normal body functions as somebody doing something to me (which the doctors told me is pretty common with psychosis). Like hearing some noise and feeling as if something is poking into my ear. That's also were the sexual/rapey stuff came into play. I'll spare you the details...
 
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Xorkoth said:
Geez that's crazy. My oldest friend, who is really strung out on meth (like, extendedly and badly) recently told me this group of meth head con-men (he is obsessed with this idea) raped him on film. He also told the same story as he was forced to make a porn. Either way he said it's because they want everyone to think he's crazy so they can steal his identity (this is the reason he gives for everything). He believes it utterly I think, even though he also uses it to manipulate people into feeling sorry for him and giving him money. It's really fucked up. He actually just started texting me about how some workmen saw proof because when they were sneaking through passages behind his walls, they broke a water main, and how they used his own soldering iron to sabotage his phone.

I'm glad you went to the hospital, my friend is psychotic and refuses any help, it's everyone else who is fucked up because they won't believe him. It's been months and months now, progressively worse and worse. I'm fearing for his long-term sanity at this point, constant sleep deprivation and meth and active psychosis has to make it more and more likely you can't come back, I would think.
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Xorkoth--
You say this gentleman's your oldest friend? My god man why aren't you doing something? ? (*no judgement )

Then I think how the laws are in my state : it takes 2 FAMILY members to do a court-committal (*and then it's generally a 48 hour obsservation period until the patient can sign himself out. Of course I speak of both detox and mental health court committal here). But.... you say he is refusing help. All you have to DO is observe that he's a danger to himself or others and report this to police.

I know you don't wanna Feed his insanity (if his best buddy throws the po-po on him that may not serve to help the paranoia in the instance that he could become volatile at the point of confrontation. Or.... he could be put at the MH unit on a sworn affidavit from the cops that he seems a danger to himself. That would guarantee a judge signs him in for the minimum hold.
He could be pisst off at you when he gets released / signs himswlf out. . .
Perhaps you or others have already travelled this path with your friend and it all came to nil (a waste of resources).

I for one could not live with myself if someone I loved were suffering this way and i Didn't try (even force ) to get him into a safe environment.
You're gonna be attending this man's funeral..... I'm sorry to sound so Shitty. Sure you are aware.

Is there no hope? For him???
Does he own a firearm? That's the other side of the coin. A Fed ex guy could knock at the neighbors n set your friend Off. These things happen. This is psychosis. Poor guy!

What can be done? ?
 
Sorry about that tokezu, my girl also had a brief excursion into paranoia during new years eve while tripping on ETH-LAD and 3-MeO-PCP. She thought nearby campers where a hippy cult trying to force us to join a ritual, and when I tried to calm her down she thought I was trying to fool her into joining the cult. Scary stuff, but it lasted for no longer than an hour, and benzos helped calm her.

I remember that afterwards she told me that on the moments leading to the paranoid break she was feeling all stimuli as corporeal, and almost sexual too as you describe. She told me that, for example, words were confusing and "physical" so when she tried talking to me she would interrupt herself and start kissing and touching me and having sexual thoughts come-up.


Interesting and weird how you say that the doctor told you that's common during psychosis.




Also Xork, I'm so sorry about your friend. Everytime you talk about him it breaks my heart. I wouldn't know what to do in a situation like that. I remember when you first stated your concerns about his meth use maybe a year ago. Must be hard watching him self-destruct.
 
Runningfox said:
Xorkoth--
You say this gentleman's your oldest friend? My god man why aren't you doing something? ? (*no judgement )

Then I think how the laws are in my state : it takes 2 FAMILY members to do a court-committal (*and then it's generally a 48 hour obsservation period until the patient can sign himself out. Of course I speak of both detox and mental health court committal here). But.... you say he is refusing help. All you have to DO is observe that he's a danger to himself or others and report this to police.

I know you don't wanna Feed his insanity (if his best buddy throws the po-po on him that may not serve to help the paranoia in the instance that he could become volatile at the point of confrontation. Or.... he could be put at the MH unit on a sworn affidavit from the cops that he seems a danger to himself. That would guarantee a judge signs him in for the minimum hold.
He could be pisst off at you when he gets released / signs himswlf out. . .
Perhaps you or others have already travelled this path with your friend and it all came to nil (a waste of resources).

I for one could not live with myself if someone I loved were suffering this way and i Didn't try (even force ) to get him into a safe environment.
You're gonna be attending this man's funeral..... I'm sorry to sound so Shitty. Sure you are aware.

Is there no hope? For him???
Does he own a firearm? That's the other side of the coin. A Fed ex guy could knock at the neighbors n set your friend Off. These things happen. This is psychosis. Poor guy!

What can be done? ?
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Oh I've been trying. His family has tried everything also. I talked about this in TDS some too, and I don't really want to clog this thread up, but he lives 1000 miles away. In his state/locality, you can't forcibly incarcerate, section or commit to treatment (except if he was arrested for a crime), so he has to voluntarily accept help. His parents were told that if they tried to forcibly take him in against his will, and he pressed charges, they could be arrested for kidnapping. And since he thinks his parents are "in on it" and he has sent numerous death threats to his mom via texts, no one wants to go there. His parents have tried many times, they go visit him regularly despite living 500 miles away themselves. His parents and I have communicated on many occasions to try to coordinate our efforts. He's threatened suicide multiple times and we've called the police, another time when he was saying he was gonna go shoot some people up (said he had a gun). The city he lives in has a HUGE meth epidemic and his parents say the authorities/systems are way overburdened. They had social workers show up when he got evicted relatively recently, but he didn't accept help nor did he do anything to get arrested. We told the police that him saying he was going to shoot some people up (on the anniversary of the Sandy Hook massacre no less :|) is sitting right there on facebook, they didn't even do anything about it. It's crazy. It's one giant cycle of psychosis, and making his loved ones feel guilty for not giving him money. He swears up, down, left and right he's not doing meth anymore and all this stuff is real and makes me feel guilty when I don't believe him. I try to limit my engagement into his whole thing because it never does any good and I need to protect my own emotions. I honestly don't know what else I can do and that fact, and all the trauma from it so far, has been really hard for me to deal with. I worry about him all the time and it has an effect on my ability to feel good (along with worries about other loved ones). I'm exhausted by it. At this point we all hope he gets arrested so he'll be forced to detox and will hopefully realize he needs help, or even be sent to the psych ward for a while.
 
I got a volunteering job that could lead to a paid job at a company in recycling waste or fungi into all kinds of products, also other sustainability projects like aquaponics! For now I would help grow more mushrooms and help to develop or innovate. And I have my own mushroom cultures to contribute.. %)
 
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