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☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Firly Swolks Discussing Mitillating Tatters Fithout Wilters

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^yeah good stuff!

swilow said:
it is so intense!!
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Haha this seems to be kind of a recurring theme in the trip reports for sure. ;) But I think that has also to do with the sudden onset you get from smoking it. I plan to try plugging it first or maybe taking it orally with a MAOI to achieve a slower and gentler comeup. If I like it though, I am definitely going to try smoking it once I get a little acquainted with the effects.


For people who like it veeeeeeeeeeeerrryyy slow.

 
^Its against the rules to try an buy drugs here bro.

tokezu said:
^yeah good stuff!



Haha this seems to be kind of a recurring theme in the trip reports for sure. ;) But I think that has also to do with the sudden onset you get from smoking it. I plan to try plugging it first or maybe taking it orally with a MAOI to achieve a slower and gentler comeup. If I like it though, I am definitely going to try smoking it once I get a little acquainted with the effects.


For people who like it veeeeeeeeeeeerrryyy slow.
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I always thought it wasn't too safe with a MAOi?

Nice album choice BTW, I recall buying that and thinking it was gonna be drone like Sunn0)), was very pleasantly surprised indeed :)
 
Man this cold I have is mild but it's lingering on and on. Been almost 2 weeks, I'm still coughing up green shit in the morning and my nose is still runny/congested. Colds are so annoying. At least it's not the flu though. I haven't had that in quite a number of years, but the last time I did it was horrible, I got all delirious with fever and I was in so much pain.
 
tokezu said:
^yeah good stuff!



Haha this seems to be kind of a recurring theme in the trip reports for sure. ;) But I think that has also to do with the sudden onset you get from smoking it. I plan to try plugging it first or maybe taking it orally with a MAOI to achieve a slower and gentler comeup. If I like it though, I am definitely going to try smoking it once I get a little acquainted with the effects.


For people who like it veeeeeeeeeeeerrryyy slow.

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Man, Earth are such a great band. I had the pleasure of meeting Dylan Carlson once.

I have only had 5-meo-dmt once, and i kinda loved it. Wish i could explore it some more. Hopefully some day.
 
I didn't really look into the 5-Meo-DMT and MAOI combination I just thought I remembered it was spoken of favourably somewhere on here. Tripsit.me does list it as a dangerous combination, the dangerous combinations thread on here does not... haven't really looked further into it for now. I have never used a MAOI and I definitely would read up a lot more before ever trying it. Anyway thanks for the heads up.

"The Bees..." was the first Earth album I listened to and I was so fucking blown away by it! I was somewhat disappointed when I realized that it is kind of an outlier and not really that representative of their style in general, but on the other hand who wants a band that always sounds the same?
 
Contraindication : 5-MeO-DMT and MAOIs Although 5-MeO-DMT is present in some plants used in ayahuasca and in some ayahuasca brews, Erowid has received several reports of very troubling physical reactions in people who have ingested 5-MeO-DMT with MAOI harmala alkaloids. There appears to be the risk of severe hypertensive symptoms, overheating, serotonin syndrome, etc. It is important to note that the profile of these risks are not fully understood, because the long history of use of brews containing some amount the two in combination.

A case of a 17-year-old male was reported to us in December 2002. He ingested an extract of Syrian Rue and then smoked an unknown (but large) dose of powdered, chemical 5-MeO-DMT. He quickly became non-responsive and fell to the ground, began convulsing (myoclonic jerking), and his sitter called an ambulance for help. He was found to have had a pulse of 180, blood pressure 200/125, and temperature 106.0 F. These levels are dangerously high. He was minimally responsive but became wildly agitated upon stimulation (even just speaking to him). He was treated with diazepam and transferred by helicopter to a Boston area hospital. The patient may have suffered lasting damage to his kidneys and rhabdomyolysis. A formal case report of this incident was published in a 2004 issue of the Journal of Toxicology & Clinical Toxicology titled "Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor Poisoning Resulting from Internet Misinformation on Illicit Substances".

In December 2004, we received an unconfirmed report of a death related to the ingestion of 200 mg of 5-MeO-DMT with some amount of "yage". This death was later described in the case report "A Fatal Intoxication Following the Ingestion of 5-Methoxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine in an Ayahuasca Preparation" in the November/December 2005 issue of the Journal of Analytical Toxicology, and the follow-up commentary "A Demand for Clarity Regarding a Case Report on the Ingestion of 5-Methoxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine in an Ayahuasca Preparation" was published in the July/August 2006 issue.

We have also received some reports from groups experimenting with making pharmahuasca using 5-MeO-DMT who have said that they had much higher incidence of bad reactions with 5-MeO-DMT than with N,N-DMT. They discontinued using the 5-MeO-DMT.
 
^ LOL at your new profile pic Solipsis, that's rad.

Anyone ever heard of someone having a heart attack from using 5-MeO-DMT straight up? It sure can put your heart into overdrive, wondering if that's a risk at all. I definitely wouldn't want to give 5-MeO to anyone with heart problems.

@spacejunk yeah it's awesome you should explore it more. Currently one of the most interesting PDs to me for sure.
 
awesome day... finally got around to fix my bike. it was 27 degrees celcius, so me and my friends went to this place:
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to smoke bowls and swim naked. then went to my friends parents house to cook dinner and chill in the garden. :)

now more bowls and dub techno
 
5-MeO-DMT does give your cardiovascular system a jolt, probably a bit stronger than DMT in some ways though it is more potent so you ingest less... I think it's more monoaminergic though. MAO-B inhibition might be a worse combination than a RIMA but clearly there is still a risk. Even if that's not like a fifty fifty I don't think I would fuck with 5-MeO-DMT like that.

Had a really shitty day, it's like a lot of bad luck all at once although I guess it's not serious shit, still shit I need to take care of is piling up too fast now.

Not that I felt like doing much about that today though, but work tomorrow..

Made this as first Illustrator project, don't ask what it all means - it's 1/3 absurd bullshit, 1/3 new-agey sounding stuff with a twist and 1/3 could make actual deeper sense on another planet.

I still gotta fix the red petals (I lost some shapes ..), it's all drawn:

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tokezu said:
For people who like it veeeeeeeeeeeerrryyy slow.

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That album is sooo cool. I saw Earth open for Boris when I had to stay a few month in the US for work last year. I took 6 mg 3-MeO-PCP five hours before the show, and then just before getting in I took 25 mg MXE and smoked some weed. When Earth started playing it was SO FUCKING INTENSE. I could listen to every note reverberate forever in the room, every harmonic was describing a trajectory in the air which I could literally follow with my eyes. At least that's what It felt like. Also, don't know if it was just the drugs, but they sounded so much heavier live. They played many songs from "The bees...". The slow increase in intensity of each song was much more noticeable. I was absolutely mesmerized.

I must have been pretty noticeably astonished by the music (Trying to visually follow the notes was probably the culprit), because after they ended their show someone from the crowd came to me and asked me without any preamble : Man, did you took some Acid???". I just laughed and told him "Naah, not acid. Why do you ask that??". He looked confused and said "You looked so into the music". I just said "Hah, It's pretty awesome music to be honest".


Boris was also rad as fuck. The slightly stimmy MXE afterglow was perfect for their high energy display. They played Pink in it's entirety. A pretty fun night I remember fondly :P.
 
Yo, if you kind people could send me some good vibes Im goin through it right now. Mostly its what you would expect happen to a person who lives under draconian laws that seeks expand.to expand their conciousness.

This first thing is not directly related to the 2nd like you might think...

Some other shit tho. Think what happens to live stream gamers on Twitch etc. Leave it that If you don't know look it up or PM me. I have my reasons. I probably shouldn't even post this ( on advice) but fuck it I need some support.

Got a man so broken he goin straight to the counselor. So shook I feel like I am on meth when I am completely sober.Thank goodness for.the kind people who run.the http://oppc.mentalhealthexcellence.org/

$50 initial lifetime membership. Then $30-50 sessions depending. My city at least had a myriad of professionals dealing with all sorts of issues. Great asset. At least for.this country. Anyone with decent state mandated healthcare (not USA) might scoff, but this is some really helpful shit.

Once again, would appreciate good vibes. Thanks :-))

Like I can count on 5 fingers the fucked up things (I got myself into so no pity) in motion. Now I can also couny on five fingers, beautiful people doing beautiful things to help me. Most not even asked for, tried to deny help. They say thats why you are gettin it, we love you, your heart is good, you deserve a good simple life, let us help. One person told me today as a child I helped.her (an adult) more than I will ever be able to understand. I have your address, I am sending you cash, you cant stop me.

Someone asked me to say one good.thing about today, I said I didnt cop a suicide kit and made an appointment with a PTSD counselor

I think Ice Cube said it best, today was a good day.

Leave this last bit here. 21 year old song by a vegan straightedge (i think) hardcore band named The Pathof Resistance. Songs called Counter.

I have been blastin this song 16 years prolly. The lyrics are kinda repetative, but, even of you dont lole heavy music, you might be supirsed and inspired. I just scream this at the walls. Letting the bastards know I won't give up you cant take my life from me with your laws. A mushroom trip at 19 told me that. Civil Disobedeience or Death (which i fear no where near as much after un brain washing myself from 16 years of indoctrination.

"From day one Schools, peers, media
Push us in certain ways
Intimidated, shamed, pressured Into an untrue identity
The bastard mob whose aim it is
To keep me in check
Can't hold me down, with their mockeries
Or put that noose around my neck

Those brainless clones repulse me
So I'll walk alone
And all I need is one friend called truth
And my heart is its home
This world won't defeat me
This world won't defeat me
This world won't defeat me

I won't be a victim
To the venomous ways around me
This hellish environment is not my master
Day upon day I've listened to your threats
Year upon year I've watched you deteriorate
I have my own mind
Now I make my own choices
And am my own lord in these days
From now on
This world won't defeat me

I have my own mind
Now I make my own choices
And am my own lord in these days
From now on
This world won't defeat me

Those brainless clones repulse me
So I'll walk alone
And all I need is one friend called truth
And my heart is its home
This world won't defeat me
This world won't defeat me
This world won't defeat me"
 
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My girl and I were talking the other night about her yearly trip to Cali to go trimming in mid-October. She was telling me about how dangerous it is, I hadn't even thought of half this shit... it's 40 miles away from a gas station, the only electricity is from generators, sometimes it snows multiple feet and they get stuck, and there's never enough food because the dude is a pretty bad planner. Then there are cougars... my girl has to sleep outside in her tent, and she's really small (100 pounds, 5'2"). She said she has to shine her flashlight all around constantly when she has to pee in the middle of the night so she can run to the house if she sees reflections off of eyes. And if she got attacked, it would drag her off somewhere and no one would probably ever know for sure what happened. Plus there are a lot of growers in the area and it's super remote and sometimes people come around with semi-automatic assault rifles and rip people off. Hasn't happened there but it could. And the roads there are super windy with no guard rails and cliff sides, and they're a lane a half wide and locals fly around the corners and people get in accidents a lot.

I was like, man, why did you tell me that stuff? I'm gonna worry constantly when you go this time. :\ The cougar thing is the most fucked up, there are lots of them around there. If she just disappeared... probably got eaten by a cougar, but who knows? For all I know she could have been kidnapped and sold into slavery. That's the kind of places my mind would go, it would be fucking torture, never knowing. Sometimes the internet goes out for a day or two there and I don't hear from her while she's there. So it's gonna make me nervous as all hell when that happens at the end of this year. I'm kinda nervous already thinking about it. :|
 
Yeah my door is open MGS!
Not sure I can help, am myself a bit depressed and drunkey..

Music of the day: School of Emotional Engineering
 
For those that read my posts about the new job and all that jazz: been going great. As it gets warmer and more construction's in the works, the work days have been longer. Most days I'm out the door by 6am and I usually don't get home till after 6pm. Twice this week I had to be at an assignment at 5am. Love the work, but it's definitely work! Just being tired by 10pm is so nice... to sit down and relax is so much more than it used to be. Other good news: while I'm the same weight as always (approx 180 lbs) I've definitely put on some muscle and lost a lot of fat. I haven't touched any drugs (except for pot, daily, maybe three times daily hehe) for a while, but that's going to change soon, on account of the fact that I want to get hhiiiighhhhh. Distance and time make the heart grow fonder, yes?
 
I am about 120pages into the third Malazan book "Memories of Ice"... FINALLY we get back to some characters from book one. First Mazan book thats a page turner from page one. Fuck yeah....

Thanks for thd vibes yall. If anyones goinv through some shit and broke, talkong helps. Look intk the link I posted earlier, $50 counseling sessions with no insurance in the US...well you people know ots $150-$300 regular so....

I allready made a secoond apointment for Tues. This dude knew what RC'S were when I named them specificallh ... knowledgabke as fuck. I need the help for personal and other reasons so yah...
 
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