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^ I'm not sure that even distilled water always remains 100% unspoiled in the dark if you want to keep it for years. Maybe you know something that I don't know or were always fine in your personal experiences, but if it isn't insanely difficult I would always use something like vodka as a solvent for storage over water of whatever kind. Because the alcohol kills whatever contaminants, and distilled water can easily be contaminated if you don't sterilize everything.
Might be overreacting but personally I'd rather be sure and safe than sorry.
@SpecialK, could you please use something like the LSD storage subthread for a post like that, next time? That would be great.
I don't want to single you out or anything, and many others here discuss things of non-social substance... but it is just a reminder for us all not to pool it all here.
I think I have only combined piracetam with psychedelics, not other racetams. I had a stash of piracetam for quite a while before I experimented with other racetams. I think that I started taking and advocating aniracetam since after I have reduced or temporarily quit tripping.
Actually my housemate / best friend, who almost never trips, took his daily aniracetam when we were on synth. mescaline which was the latest time we tripped together (over the summer, before I went to benzo rehab). He didn't report anything out of the ordinary, maybe some minor discomfort like a marginal increase in tension but nothing big at all.
He got the synergy he hoped for, but the trip didn't spin into crazy overdrive for him - it was fine.
I think his dose is or was about 750 mg like mine. He tends to cap though, and I eyeball my bulk supplements... usually I do 'calibrate' by getting a visual of what the target quantity looks like. With things like choline the therapeutic index is so big that it shouldn't really matter so much if you eyeball.
Although strictly speaking the body may get used to standard quantities and standard moments in the day a bit quicker maybe.
LTM If you wanna talk more, I think I ought to moderate the posts into the racetam subthread.
And I have read your message, it is just complex matter and it is taking me a while to properly wrap my head about stuff like that theory of positive desintegration etc.
Might be overreacting but personally I'd rather be sure and safe than sorry.
@SpecialK, could you please use something like the LSD storage subthread for a post like that, next time? That would be great.
I don't want to single you out or anything, and many others here discuss things of non-social substance... but it is just a reminder for us all not to pool it all here.
I think I have only combined piracetam with psychedelics, not other racetams. I had a stash of piracetam for quite a while before I experimented with other racetams. I think that I started taking and advocating aniracetam since after I have reduced or temporarily quit tripping.
Actually my housemate / best friend, who almost never trips, took his daily aniracetam when we were on synth. mescaline which was the latest time we tripped together (over the summer, before I went to benzo rehab). He didn't report anything out of the ordinary, maybe some minor discomfort like a marginal increase in tension but nothing big at all.
He got the synergy he hoped for, but the trip didn't spin into crazy overdrive for him - it was fine.
I think his dose is or was about 750 mg like mine. He tends to cap though, and I eyeball my bulk supplements... usually I do 'calibrate' by getting a visual of what the target quantity looks like. With things like choline the therapeutic index is so big that it shouldn't really matter so much if you eyeball.
Although strictly speaking the body may get used to standard quantities and standard moments in the day a bit quicker maybe.
LTM If you wanna talk more, I think I ought to moderate the posts into the racetam subthread.
And I have read your message, it is just complex matter and it is taking me a while to properly wrap my head about stuff like that theory of positive desintegration etc.
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http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-huell-howser-20130108,0,1021100.storyToday is a sad day for the Golden State.
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Im watching 2001 a space oddysey while on dxm, this shit is fucking me up
jeus christ its too intense but i cant stop watching
This is the most intesne drug exprience of my life
jeus christ its too intense but i cant stop watching
This is the most intesne drug exprience of my life
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Lab-Test Monkey
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No worries Solipsis, please take your time, I'm going to get hold of more material by Dabrowski and others who have built on his work (there is not a lot of Dabrowski's works which is online or still to be translated from Polish to English), they even regularly have a worldwide conference.
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www.imdb.com/title/tt1783732/
Fred Dies at the End
Stormcharger and others you'll probably like the above movie it's got a trippy premise and I couldn't stop laughing a lot of the time.
If your trip is that intense maybe wait until your coming down or tomorrow to watch.
Peace bros
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www.imdb.com/title/tt1783732/
Fred Dies at the End
Stormcharger and others you'll probably like the above movie it's got a trippy premise and I couldn't stop laughing a lot of the time.
If your trip is that intense maybe wait until your coming down or tomorrow to watch.
Peace bros
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Transform
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SpecialK: Isopropyl alcohol absorbs less water from the air, and is comparably inert and "non"-toxic to ethanol. You can easily buy it pure online.
stormcharger: http://chat.tripsit.me if you wanna talk about it?
stormcharger: http://chat.tripsit.me if you wanna talk about it?
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Sweet I'll take a look in a moment
I know the feeling, I only watched it for the first time towards the end of 2011! ...and it was on a high dose of MXE. I don't remember much of the film except that it was pretty damn crazy to watch, blew my mind at the time.
Awesome, other than 420chan IRC I didn't know any other drug IRC channels, thanks for the link, I'm on there now as jesusgreen (duh), what's your handle out of there out of curiosity? Or were you just suggesting he talks to others there?
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@SpecialK, could you please use something like the LSD storage subthread for a post like that, next time? That would be great.
I don't want to single you out or anything, and many others here discuss things of non-social substance... but it is just a reminder for us all not to pool it all here.
Didn't realize this wasn't a bit like the EADD thread that's a bit similar where anything goes rather than entirely social. As I normally find the responses better in these threads. Not a bother, thanks and cheers for advice all.
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Transform
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Yep, that IRC there has a specific channel, #tripsit for those having a tough time, and there's a regular chat channel and some others too. One can change channel with the tabs at the top.
It was originally intended to be a reddit channel but it has quickly grown and now http://tripsit.me is a separate entity.
It was originally intended to be a reddit channel but it has quickly grown and now http://tripsit.me is a separate entity.
SONN
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my most profound LSD trip was spent watching that movie in pure revelatory ecstasy the majority of the time. IMO the main song 'thus sprach zarathustra' is written to sound like a revelation. It's just one epic EUREKA!
SONN
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^fo sho
so on monday I took my first drug test for rehab :/
going through the typical problems one has when they go from smoking ludicrous amounts of pot to none at all-- vividly remembering crazy dreams, having a hard time going to sleep, and some very slight irritability/moodiness, which probably has to do with the less-than-perfect sleep cycle.
Every time I go to rehab and see all these constantly relapsing opiate addicts I just want to shout IBOGAAAAAAAAAAA!
I really just want to explain to them that any opiate drug being used to help withdrawals isn't helping curing your addiction so much as just postponing the withdrawals. It's crazy how many people don't know about this at a goddamn rehab center. Also, they talk about lots of shit that sounds (in a way) like shock therapy, such as letting your son go to jail for a week and not visiting him so that he knows how shitty his life will be if he continues his habit and ends up rotting in jail. Depending on the jail shock therapy could in many ways be actually more humane IMO. Is hypnosis a common practice for helping addicts recover? I feel like it could help at least :/
last night I had a dream that I did a bunch of opiates (which I have always stayed the fuck away from) and woke up in a slight panic wondering how long they stay in your system. Thankfully that was a dream haha. Later in the dream I remember jack the ripper turning into a cigarette and then spiders crawling out of his mouth, it wasn't scary just kind of strange. I'm guessing this dream is the result of me going to rehab and hearing stories about opiate addiction, and also me buying my first pack of cigarettes to have something to smoke if I feel like I REALLY want to (terrible idea, I know).
I hate being a debbie downer but I kinda had to share this with somebody-- if this is purely blog material I will keep it out of here from now on, you guys are just really supportive most of the time :D
so on monday I took my first drug test for rehab :/
going through the typical problems one has when they go from smoking ludicrous amounts of pot to none at all-- vividly remembering crazy dreams, having a hard time going to sleep, and some very slight irritability/moodiness, which probably has to do with the less-than-perfect sleep cycle.
Every time I go to rehab and see all these constantly relapsing opiate addicts I just want to shout IBOGAAAAAAAAAAA!
I really just want to explain to them that any opiate drug being used to help withdrawals isn't helping curing your addiction so much as just postponing the withdrawals. It's crazy how many people don't know about this at a goddamn rehab center. Also, they talk about lots of shit that sounds (in a way) like shock therapy, such as letting your son go to jail for a week and not visiting him so that he knows how shitty his life will be if he continues his habit and ends up rotting in jail. Depending on the jail shock therapy could in many ways be actually more humane IMO. Is hypnosis a common practice for helping addicts recover? I feel like it could help at least :/
last night I had a dream that I did a bunch of opiates (which I have always stayed the fuck away from) and woke up in a slight panic wondering how long they stay in your system. Thankfully that was a dream haha. Later in the dream I remember jack the ripper turning into a cigarette and then spiders crawling out of his mouth, it wasn't scary just kind of strange. I'm guessing this dream is the result of me going to rehab and hearing stories about opiate addiction, and also me buying my first pack of cigarettes to have something to smoke if I feel like I REALLY want to (terrible idea, I know).
I hate being a debbie downer but I kinda had to share this with somebody-- if this is purely blog material I will keep it out of here from now on, you guys are just really supportive most of the time :D
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Opioid substitution therapy may well just draw out withdrawals but it can be a godsend for those who don't have the psychological strength to take it all at once. At least until the government permits less conventional treatments such as iboga.
May I ask why you're there?
May I ask why you're there?
SONN
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I got a DUI because I had pot in my car, and in order to get it expunged I have to complete this outpatient rehab 'class.' Then, as long as I don't get another DUI in the next 10 years it will be totally expunged.
I know that suboxone and whatnot can be helpful but people in the class act like it's a cure when it's clearly not, and the fact that nobody has even heard of Iboga just makes me angry haha
I know that suboxone and whatnot can be helpful but people in the class act like it's a cure when it's clearly not, and the fact that nobody has even heard of Iboga just makes me angry haha
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True, it's not a cure, but it reduces IV drug use (thereby reducing Hep C and HIV transmission) and it can help some heroin addicts become functional human beings...pretty damn good treatment as far as psychiatry is concerned. The goal is really controlled addiction, not sobriety in most of these folks. Iboga is interesting, but it's also not a miracle cure...not to mention, we don't know the long term outcomes (i.e. relapse rates, etc.).
And solipsis, I've never added alcohol for maintaining sterility, but I suppose it'd be a good preventative measure. Alternatively, for long term storage, a water solution can be frozen.
Yeah I hear iboga works mostly for a few months. If in that time some structural changes are made, or important decisions and convictions... I guess the benefits can be carried over. Seems like a second chance to me in a way, but of course people can fuck up new chances.
The ibogaine would help with resensitization of opiate receptors (that is what I heard), but the physical withdrawal is not the trickiest part of addiction is it? The psychological deep-rooted function your use has, that may not be fixed as reliably. Neurological restructuring (reinforced reward pathways) couldn't possibly be restored in such a short session I'd think.
I find it very interesting that considerably less sleep is needed in that long refractory period!
Does anyone know what makes a hardcore iboga session potentially dangerous or deadly? I am pretty interested to try oral DMT for spiritual and motivational therapy and think of iboga as a last - or at least later - resort treatment if things get bad enough.
/ Freezing is of course a fine alternative Personally I would only freeze an aqueous solution if there was good reason related to volumetric measurement of something superpotent. Otherwise, whether alcoholic or not, solutions are not ideal for long term storage by definition because it makes compounds more unstable due to ionization.
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The ibogaine would help with resensitization of opiate receptors (that is what I heard), but the physical withdrawal is not the trickiest part of addiction is it? The psychological deep-rooted function your use has, that may not be fixed as reliably. Neurological restructuring (reinforced reward pathways) couldn't possibly be restored in such a short session I'd think.
I find it very interesting that considerably less sleep is needed in that long refractory period!
Does anyone know what makes a hardcore iboga session potentially dangerous or deadly? I am pretty interested to try oral DMT for spiritual and motivational therapy and think of iboga as a last - or at least later - resort treatment if things get bad enough.
/ Freezing is of course a fine alternative
Personally I would only freeze an aqueous solution if there was good reason related to volumetric measurement of something superpotent. Otherwise, whether alcoholic or not, solutions are not ideal for long term storage by definition because it makes compounds more unstable due to ionization.psy pica:
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HighonLife
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Sweet pic solipsis
so ive been trying to brainstorm
do any of yall PD'ers have any suggestions or input on ways to make more money aside from: getting another job, pawning stealing or selling drugs?
in need of some extra income and i already work 40hrs a week, im bout to start school next week (albeit only one class cuz its all i could afford) dont wanna go back to selling drugs; tho right now it seems like the best option, and i dont wanna steal for obvious reasons and i dont wanna pawn (my own legally aquirred stuff) because there is just something about it that makes me feel bad/unhappy/pathetic/not going in the right direction. sure you gotta do what you gotta do n im not sayin i look down on people who pawn off their stuff in time of need but A) its not really a long term solution, eventually you run out of stuff and B) i dont necessarily have that much stuff that would bring in much money even if i was interested in doing so
been wanting to trip lately n reflect on where i am at in my life, reflect on the thigns ive been going through over the last few months and to evaluate and attempt to make plans for where i am going in the near future. however, it seems as tho everytime i get that hankerin for a trip something comes up and i just havent been able to set aside the time to do so. i whole heartedly believe it is something worth prioritizing into my schedule it just hasnt panned out yet tho.
i know im not a regular n my questions/situation may not be the easiest to answer or give feedback on but any input would be greatly appreciated, i dont post much in here but i always like to lurk you PD cats cuz i enjoy yalls outlook
so ive been trying to brainstorm
do any of yall PD'ers have any suggestions or input on ways to make more money aside from: getting another job, pawning stealing or selling drugs?
in need of some extra income and i already work 40hrs a week, im bout to start school next week (albeit only one class cuz its all i could afford) dont wanna go back to selling drugs; tho right now it seems like the best option, and i dont wanna steal for obvious reasons and i dont wanna pawn (my own legally aquirred stuff) because there is just something about it that makes me feel bad/unhappy/pathetic/not going in the right direction. sure you gotta do what you gotta do n im not sayin i look down on people who pawn off their stuff in time of need but A) its not really a long term solution, eventually you run out of stuff and B) i dont necessarily have that much stuff that would bring in much money even if i was interested in doing so
been wanting to trip lately n reflect on where i am at in my life, reflect on the thigns ive been going through over the last few months and to evaluate and attempt to make plans for where i am going in the near future. however, it seems as tho everytime i get that hankerin for a trip something comes up and i just havent been able to set aside the time to do so. i whole heartedly believe it is something worth prioritizing into my schedule it just hasnt panned out yet tho.
i know im not a regular n my questions/situation may not be the easiest to answer or give feedback on but any input would be greatly appreciated, i dont post much in here but i always like to lurk you PD cats cuz i enjoy yalls outlook
Thorns Have Roses
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^Are there any extraneous expenditures you can cut? Food expenses can usually be cut a lot while still being healthy if you switch to making things in bulk, getting stuff on sale, finding places that have really good deals on certain items (like the girl's home near where I live that sells all bread items for $0.50 a piece).
So I was expecting to be hungover this morning, but I wasn't. Hoozah! Had pretty bad anxiety the first hour or two after waking though.
If we weren't allowed to be negative, I wouldn't be here. Honesty is a good thing when you're in good company.
I'd be too lazy to take the course, or would quit after one or two sessions.
So I was expecting to be hungover this morning, but I wasn't. Hoozah! Had pretty bad anxiety the first hour or two after waking though.
SONN said:
If we weren't allowed to be negative, I wouldn't be here. Honesty is a good thing when you're in good company.
SONN said:
I'd be too lazy to take the course, or would quit after one or two sessions.
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HighonLife
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^^not really i work in a restaurant and eat there alot
and im back at home with the folks now so i only really spend money on food when i really wanna go out n get something from somewhere im craving, which really isnt often maybe once a week
i appreciate your input, dont wanna brush you off n prevent others from chiming in
thanks man
and im back at home with the folks now so i only really spend money on food when i really wanna go out n get something from somewhere im craving, which really isnt often maybe once a week
i appreciate your input, dont wanna brush you off n prevent others from chiming in
thanks man
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Man, that's so misguided, it's laughable really... to think that you can change someone for the better by threatening him with the horrors of imprisonment. If you really want to help someone, show them love.
Oral DMT was an excellent therapeutic tool for me. Although I wonder if almost any psychedelic could be used this way. I happened to choose ayahuasca as the medicine of choice for dealing with my anxiety and it was a godsend, but I wonder if I would have made similar progress using LSD or something else?
Man, if I had any ideas, I would definitely send them your way. Problem is, that's what pretty much everyone on the planet is trying to figure out, and there's no magic answer. I would say, make a long-term plan, be patient, and stick with it. You're going to school - probably studying something that can eventually become a career is your best bet. I think finding an instantaneous solution to monetary problems will be very very difficult.
But yeah, cutting unnecessary expenditures is a great idea. If you smoke pot, maybe cut back on that?
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