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Well I still have the intention to try MiPT this weekend :)
I will certainly try my best to make a nice report considering there are so few on it.

Right now I am putting most of my energy into piano play, I am composing extra variations for Bach's 'goldberg variations' work and making a lot of progress learning that work as well as stuff by Chopin, Mendelssohn and Beethoven. But none of that compares to my appreciation of Bach.
I'm also doing Das Wohltemperiertes Klavier and sheet music for The Art of Fugue is on the way.

When I master things so well that I can record it digitally I will share it here.

TheAppleCore said:
What do you mean by this? :)

"Change" only makes sense, to me, in reference to a dimension. Like, here is an example of change, over time, within a single dimension (a particle moving):

o---------
-o--------
--o------- |
---o------ |
----o----- |
-----o---- |
------o--- v
-------o-- T
--------o-
---------o

-----> X

Change occurs through spatial dimension X as time passes.
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I meant to say that everything is in flux, following the second law of thermodynamics. Everything we perceive to be static is only apparent because we cannot sense things on small enough scales. And cumulative 'statistics' make it seem like for example a collection of matter can stay the same over a span of time even though in reality it is in continuous flux. We see the average of dice throws being carried out, the average being macroscopic appearance. In reality, the dice is constantly rethrown. Shit, that metaphor might make things just more convoluted.

Your proposition of moving particles conforms to all of that as well. But it is extended to everything, including vacuum which is again not static but exists in nature of quantum fluctuations. As I understand it the current belief by many physical theorists is that not matter but information is at the core of everything, information that could be interpreted as states of energy. Also information can travel instantaneous, so faster than the speed of light. The scaffold of that all would be the Higgs field.

I believe these to be universal and fundamental properties and I am very much reminded of taoist expressions.

Because everything ultimately reflects change, that is why I said I believe it is essential to time. Our experience of time is nothing more than the level on which we sense changes. When time flies, we have just limited our attention to changes - either because we are deprived of sensorical detection of intervals or because our attention was fully immersed in our activities.
 
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SONN said:
I got invited by this girl that I had bathtub sex with for a minute then the bubbles in the bath got too high and were spilling everywhere so we decided we'd have to have sex some other time
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LMAO. If that isn't the best cock-block I've ever heard about - bubbles in a bath getting too high. :D




Solipsis said:
Well I still have the intention to try MiPT this weekend :)
I will certainly try my best to make a nice report considering there are so few on it.
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Nice! How are you going to be taking it? Vapor by lung is what I'd go for, but then again, other routes may offer more time for observation... hmmm...

Right now I am putting most of my energy into piano play, I am composing extra variations for Bach's 'goldberg variations' work and making a lot of progress learning that work as well as stuff by Chopin, Mendelssohn and Beethoven. But none of that compares to my appreciation of Bach.
I'm also doing Das Wohltemperiertes Klavier and sheet music for The Art of Fugue is on the way.

When I master things so well that I can record it digitally I will share it here.
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That is excellent to hear! I'm looking forward to your recordings.

In reality, the dice is constantly rethrown. Shit, that metaphor might make things just more convoluted
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No worries, I see what you're getting at.

As I understand it the current belief by many physical theorists is that not matter but information is at the core of everything, information that could be interpreted as states of energy. Also information can travel instantaneous, so faster than the speed of light. The scaffold of that all would be the Higgs field.
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Now that is downright trippy. :D States of energy... I am kind of curious about this. It seems like no matter what your definition of "matter" is, you're always going to come to the conclusion that it is in fact some sort of "information", because information, or language, is the means by which we conceive of reality. Information is the ink in our diagram of reality, and to say that matter is information is as erroneous as to say that the state of Wyoming is a red rectangle.

Because everything ultimately reflects change, that is why I said I believe it is essential to time. Our experience of time is nothing more than the level on which we sense changes. When time flies, we have just limited our attention to changes - either because we are deprived of sensorical detection of intervals or because our attention was fully immersed in our activities.
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Wow. That makes perfect sense. Really neat perspective there.
 
Solipsis said:
When I master things so well that I can record it digitally I will share it here.
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I too look forward to that.

Every time I start to get REALLY depressed (which is usually in direct correlation with something my ex girlfriend did) I have these urges to take a very high dose of K and lay back and listen to classical music. Moonlight Sonata is one of my favorites. But I can't do this, because I'm in rehab, so my next best escape is me putting on south park and just watching episode after episode until I fall asleep.

TAC, the best afterglow I ever got from MXE was when I took it about seven hours after taking three hits of LSD. I was confronted with my own death, and shrugged it off like it was nothing haha and was able to giggle about that for weeks afterwards.

After my first DOC trip I was thoroughly convinced I had created the perfect model of reality according to quantum physics and was VERY deeply into taoism for about two weeks. However, in my excitement I shared it with everyone including my closed minded dickhead roomate who insisted it made no sense at all and that I was a drugged out retard. Due to shame and embarrassment I actually don't really remember a lot of my theory but it had a LOT to do with information traveling faster than the speed of light, and the everett interpretation of quantum physics that a particle exists in multiple positions until a measurement is made, and when a measurement is made you end up with two seperate universes with no relation to eachother.

Quantum physics is now kind of a touchy subject for me :/ but I enjoy hearing most people's interpretations.
 
Well during a period when I was tripping very frequently I became 'too open-minded' to theories on the implications of quantum physics. The physics itself was not so much an issue as the way I tried to connect it to biopsychology and what not.

I think the concept of travelling information is mind-blowing in Bell's theorem.

About the multiple universes... I think I saw a TED talk on that I found remarkable: http://www.ted.com/talks/garrett_lisi_on_his_theory_of_everything.html
But it might just be like the uncertainty principle is rather like the following metaphor. If you know a person is travelling from point A to B to C, but lack much more information than that you can only predict the probability of him either being between A and B or B and C. But if you call that person and ask where he is (observation), it's not like he is in 2 places - asking the question resolves the answer. Without asking that question, the status remains fuzzy.
Obviously macroscopic concepts are often very different from quantum mechanics so the relevance is entirely unknown. I am just saying it might be a reach to suggest parallel universes, although I wouldn't discount the possibility.

If classical music like the Moonlight Sonata doesn't make you crave drugs too much, I can record me playing it for you one of these days. :)
 
my theory is that wave-particle duality exists because we are living in a computer simulation.

why draw a particle that no one is looking at? it is far more efficient, computationally, to leave unobserved energy as a field of possibilities. it is a form of compression intended to prevent the sacred universal processor from wasting precious clock cycles.
 
Consider the famous double slit experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment), do you think that it is more information efficient to use complex mathematics that give rise to interference of probabilities or to just use classical / deterministic mechanics on every level of existence? This is not a rhetorical question, even if it reflects my doubts of the former and my inclination to believe the latter. Of course I don't actually know.

You make a good point but I think it relates to ontology more than the wave aspect of light, ontological ideas or problems such as this thought experiment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest

It seems to me that the answer to the question of that experiment would be that if there is no one around to perceive there is only the probability matrix that is quintessential to everything, which would correspond to the "Brahman" concept. Because it is non-differentiated reality, there are no determined properties and it is infinite, amorphous, apart from being the source of everything meaningless and it wouldn't adhere to any natural law making it "asymptotic" like singularities are. From it actual scales of reality are emergent through a differentiation process.

I very much like Robert Pirsig's realizations that Quality is at the core of everything which is yet another way to interpret sets of values that may relate to energy or condensed matter or more generally information. But the most excellent insight he has is that this quality is the nature of the relationship between an object and a subject. This makes fixation on the object/subject dichotomy subtly illusory in the same way that life, enlightenment and other processes in the world are fundamentally never about beginnings and ends but always about the path in between. Everything follows paths, , I think because we cling to concepts based on duality like beginnings and ends (but also mind/body and matter/energy and many more things) that is why people say "every end is also a beginning".

About that duality and the differentiation process I mentioned earlier: I think we are built to interpret all information that way because it mirrors that process. Consider quantum vacuum where out of nothingness particles can appear for a split second as long as they are created as complementary parts that add up to neutrality. Consider pH works similarly, under normal circumstances ions need to be stoichiometrically balanced.
 
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That ted talks vid made the mystic in me jizz everywhere lol

Also, I would certainly agree that as soon as you start rambling about the implications of these 'parallel universes' and the biopsychology of it all is when you really start to sound less and less sane. However, There seem to be a good amount of people throughout history who have started to do that and come up with very very similar ideas. At least, when I read Terrence Mckenna's true hallucinations I found lots of similarities between the theories me and dennis were coming up with when we were falling off the deep end :/

It used to really shock me to my core whenever I would read something or come across something that would infer that I was correct (or at least in some way correct) with a certain aspect of those theories. Now, I try to just live my life and not be AS into mysticism and all that because it really did a number on me at some point.

the E8 mathematical pattern reminds me of all my early experiences with salvia a lot.. I remember zooming out and seeing reality as a twisting/morphing object with lots and lots(well over a hundred) of faces and each face represented a different possibility or situation that may or may not be unfolding.

even the surfer guy in that TED video talks about maintaining his sanity and he's a genius quantum physicist.
 
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Woo, trying Poppy Seed Tea today for the first time with 500g of some nice seeds :D Will be my first experience with anything Morphine-containing. I'm excited to see how it compares to Codeine and Buprenorphine.

Then I still have 3 psychedelics in my stash that I've yet to taste: 2C-T-4, 3C-E, 4-HO-MET - one of which will most likely get tested Friday or Saturday. Looks like this is a week of new experiences for me :)

Think I'm leaning towards the 4-HO-MET first since I've tried more phenethylamines overall and it'd be nice to add another tryptamine to the list of drugs I'm familiar with. Plus it's been a while since I've had a nice tryptamine trip anyway.

Watching the TED talk now, man I love TED, I think I've only seen maybe one video on there that I didn't think was any good really, I've spent so many countless hours watching TED videos and each one it feels like I've learnt something special and really spent that time well.
 
Solipsis said:
Consider the famous double slit experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment), do you think that it is more information efficient to use complex mathematics that give rise to interference of probabilities or to just use classical / deterministic mechanics on every level of existence? This is not a rhetorical question, even if it reflects my doubts of the former and my inclination to believe the latter. Of course I don't actually know.
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hm. maybe instead of a matter of saving universal clock cycles, its more of a method of saving universal hard drive space. an equation to determine where everything might be wold take up less space than a spreadsheet that shows where everything actually is?

Jesusgreen said:
Then I still have 3 psychedelics in my stash that I've yet to taste: 2C-T-4, 3C-E, 4-HO-MET - one of which will most likely get tested Friday or Saturday. Looks like this is a week of new experiences for me :)
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2C-T-4 is perhaps my favorite 2C (might be tied with 2C-P). I haven't tried those other two compounds, though.
 
I still haven't sampled my t4 that I have been holding on to for a while. How does t4 compare to t2. 2c-t2 is one of my favorites. tma-6 is another chem I have been holding on to for a while that I am really looking forward to sampling. I'm just waiting for the right moment.

I ended up deciding against trying out my 5meo-dmt for the first time today. I am way too anxious and stressed to try something that powerful right now.
 
I'm gonna have to check out that TED talk soon. I'm curious.

thenightwatch said:
my theory is that wave-particle duality exists because we are living in a computer simulation.

why draw a particle that no one is looking at? it is far more efficient, computationally, to leave unobserved energy as a field of possibilities. it is a form of compression intended to prevent the sacred universal processor from wasting precious clock cycles.
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Awesome! =D

Captain.Heroin said:
DMT in itself is very powerful, I am not sure if I would ever try 5-meo-DMT.
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I agree, I've got some 5-MeO-DMT that's been sitting around in my stash for a long time now, and I've yet to try it.

Solipsis said:
Here is a piano track from me earlier this evening:

https://soundcloud.com/magnum-jopus/other-lives-black-tables
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Nice! Improvised too, impressive! I've been getting better at improvisation lately, gradually. It's tough for me, I think it's a weak point of mine, I'm much better at composing music methodically and thoughtfully.
 
Been having a great time with my s-ketamine today.

The series finale of fringe just started; watching it right now.
 
Solipsis said:
I think I saw a TED talk on that I found remarkable: http://www.ted.com/talks/garrett_lisi_on_his_theory_of_everything.html
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Curious... very curious... thanks for that! So, basically, we've discovered that particle physics can be represented by these pretty, symmetrical patterns. Hence, this dude is approaching particle physics from the assumption that we can take those symmetrical patterns, and integrate them into larger patterns which are even more pretty and symmetrical. Because, why the hell wouldn't the universe manifest itself with beautiful symmetry? :D
 
Have some music.

Prepare for rambling:

NSFW:

So I guess it's true what I've been suspecting, alcohol doesn't really work anymore. I had a pint of whiskey yesterday and I still felt anxiety and a certain soberness (which is a good deal due to tolerance I suppose), but the point is it's just not pleasurable or desirably escapist after the first two drinks. Gonna try going with moderate consumption of beers, so I can still enjoy that little bit.

I've systematically ruined the abusability of the drugs I've come across, maybe that'll force me to deal with my problems by actually trying to overcome them. In any case I am feeling reasonably optimistic about 2013. We'll see.

Now for something entirely out of character: So like, there's this girl at the library (patron, not who works there) who wears this ridiculous froofy short pink dress, with some giant flower in her hair, and these shoes and this aquamarine pastel sweater...it's something else. I am quite taken. No that's not some kind of kink of mine, fashion-wise my preference is formal-casual.

<edit>Hmm using logic, wouldn't the most likely explanation be that she is a high-school student who takes a dance class, and ends up having to spend several hours mulling around the public library before or afterward? That would be much less interesting than a singular person with lots of moxie.</edit>

Normally interacting with, or imagining interacting with "normal people" (i.e. non drug-folk), sends me into dissociation/severe identity disturbance. Yet instead I was filled with a pleasant champagne bubble anxiety (I had forgotten anxiety could be positive). Now excuse me while I go about feeling off-kilter.
 
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