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Been about an hour since I ate 20mg 4-HO-MiPT, just ate another 20. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a repeat of your experience, Cyanoide, heh. I'm feeling that hallmark tryptamine sexual energy right now. At this point in my experience with trypts I can fairly confidently say that they are extremely sexy drugs. I'll have to find me a similarly inclined lady to eat miprocin with one o' these days. :D

Gosh, you'll have quite the ride if all that hits you like it did to me. 4-HO-MiPT has a sexual edge to it that many other 4-subs don't have for me. 4-AcO-DiPT is the only other one that comes to mind, I've not noticed it with other 4-subs. 5-MeO's have it just about all but I'm no fan of them.

Enjoy your trip :)
 
Hey pepper, about your TA comment:

Sorry to hear that (I've been a TA and it goes both ways sometimes). Unfortunately, at most schools, TA's are grad students who don't get a lot of training in teaching in general, get a lot of grief from their boss about getting research/work done, and are told that TAing is just something you do to get paid while you focus on research/work and take the classes that you need to take. Sometimes TA's are jerks and take all their stresses and problems out on students (which I tried not to do).

I can see that. The thing that bothers me most about some of the more authoritarian TA's is how they treat students as if their still high school adolescents instead of adults with good intellectual and reasoning powers.

Being about 5 years older than the standard student in my classes makes me feel the effect even moreso. I've worked in a lab, I have articles published, lots of life experience in an adult world, but in a 2nd year lab I'm considered a 'know-nothing'. The pedagogy gets to me the most.

This is exactly why I decided to quit using them. Stimulants make every day life extremely boring when you have no interest or motivation to do anything. Then the remedy is of course to take stimulants again, and life feels fine. Stimulants are nasty and change my personality in a negative way under the influence, since stimulants give a huge ego-boost. I clearly notice that messages written on this forum under the influence of stimulants are different from those written while being sober. The high on stimulants is not like the high on other drugs, since your mind is very clear and you can do every day tasks like being at work or eating dinner with relatives. You don't really feel intoxicated at all, rather you feel like you actually function better than sober. Which obviously isn't true.

I would lie if I'd say the aren't good for functionality, when you're tired after work but have to do something you don't want. For example showeling huge amounts of snow or mow the lawn. But those are things that just belong to every day life and has to be done, you shouldn't have to take stimulants to get things done. They are an easy fix for people like me who are a bit lazy at times.

One thing I've noticed about myself on stimulants. I'm a lot more motivated, and I'm certainly less willing to let things slide; if I feel infringed upon, I get pissed and put up a hard fight (verbally, intellectually). My TA altercation was partly amphetamine fueled, the pedagogy just provided the spark required.

That ego-boost is a double edge sword. I stutter less on amps, I'm more confident, I'm more inclined to be an arrogant ass-hole, but I stutter less and I'm more confident. ;)

In my opinion, there is little point in spreading humanity's collective resources thinly but evenly over all its members. Maybe it sounds cruel, but I might as well be honest -- I'd rather let some people starve so that others can live sumptuously, than force everyone into a just mediocrity out of compassion. You can either have compassion for the poor, or compassion for the wealthy.

Of course there are some levels of obscene wealth that I would consider abhorrent. Everything within reason.

It's funny, that theory of 'there is no fate but what we make'. Should lazy people be given the same money as those who work hard? No. And as you say, exorbitant wealth of billionaires isn't completely right either.

Some people are dealt a shitty hand in life and don't have the opportunity to go to college and work hard due to poor upbringing. I understand that completely, it's a cycle. People born into shitty circumstances don't have the same perspective and opportunities as the more lucky ones. Although, some look beyond and manage to gain that perspective and see what hard work can do for them.

Funny thing happened in a metabolism lecture of mine; the prof was mentioning some very rare metabolic diseases that are genetically based (enzyme or transporter deficiencies usually), he was saying about how because they're rare they don't get the funding to look for cures for such diseases, but people still die from them and cures need to be found, so money should still be put into super-rare diseases. A guy sitting behind me (quietly talking to his friend), said "Oh come on, what about evolution? Someone with a genetic deficiency is supposed to die. Their continued life keeps the genetic deficiency in the gene pool."

I'd have to say I agree with that train of thought, but I wouldn't if I had the genetic deficiency. Should the genetically deficient be allowed to die for the sake of financial savings and health of the overall gene pool? There's a thinker. Evolution sais yes.

Wow! I am looking out my window right now at some magnificent rains! (Excuse my excitement, I live in a desert.) It's really pouring. I am assuming you are enjoying (or detesting) the same weather, Never. :)

I can't say I've ever heard of someone excited about rain as if it's an uncommon thing. That just sounded funny to me. :) Would snow fry your circuits? ;) :P

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Enjoy the rain. It's raining here too, but it's dark and the nights are still mostly sub-zero °C so it'll probably turn into rain and snow mixed or snow later. Then it melts tomorrow morning again.

The days are getting longer here and were getting a huge warm front coming in. It's a balmy 15C and going into the 20's this week, sunny the whole time. Pretty damn nice weather for mid-March. :)
 
A guy sitting behind me (quietly talking to his friend), said "Oh come on, what about evolution? Someone with a genetic deficiency is supposed to die. Their continued life keeps the genetic deficiency in the gene pool."

I agree with your classmate, there. It seems like Western medicine is very much unaware of the elegance and power of genetics and natural selection.

Although, would I opt for treatment if I had a rare genetic disease? Fuck yes. I want to live. :D



I can't say I've ever heard of someone excited about rain as if it's an uncommon thing. That just sounded funny to me. :) Would snow fry your circuits? ;) :P

It would damn near blow my mind, yes.
 
One thing I've noticed about myself on stimulants. I'm a lot more motivated, and I'm certainly less willing to let things slide; if I feel infringed upon, I get pissed and put up a hard fight (verbally, intellectually). My TA altercation was partly amphetamine fueled, the pedagogy just provided the spark required.

That ego-boost is a double edge sword. I stutter less on amps, I'm more confident, I'm more inclined to be an arrogant ass-hole, but I stutter less and I'm more confident. ;)

The increase in motivation is huge on stimulants. I don't think I've ever got angry at anyone on them though. Back in the days when I used lots of speed I was certainly angry during the comedowns, angry at anyone and everything. I always had very bad comedowns. On MDMA comedowns I felt sad and depressed, lonely and miserable. On speed comedowns I was angry, irritated, wanted to smash and break things.

One big reason for quitting stimulants (there are many reasons) is in fact the huge increase in self-confidence I get from them. I usually have a quite low self-confidence and suffer from social phobias. It would be disastrous to try and find a quick fix to that from stimulants. I don't even know why I started using stimulants after the many years long break from all drugs. But I know they were too effective as a quick fix for lack of motivation and low self-confidence. It had to stop. I'm also quite sensitive to stimulants and there's a very fine line between feeling good and getting a panic attack.

I know there will be moments I would want to take them but my decision is definite.
 
I just remembered a very cool dream I had last night.

Someone was introducing me to this piece of recorded music, apparently made in the '60s, and it had become famous for its highly peculiar effect it had on the listener. It was only 40 seconds long or so. So, I began listening. And, apparently in my dream all music tells a visual story, which you can see with your eyes closed. I closed my eyes, and instead of the expected effect of seeings events unfold as colors against blackness, my whole visual field was brightly colored morphing patterns, and the story was told by little black silhouette voids inside of the colorful chaos. Like instead of seeing a person walking in full color, you would see a giant crazy tapestry of colors with a black cutout the shape of a walking person.

Someday I may try to produce that piece of music. :D
 
thinking I might order some ur-144. All the damn cannabinoids are banned in TX but i think this one is still available for me to order. Hopefully it all works out and I get a few grams in. I've been wanting some weed, or a cannabinoid so much recetnly. Been since the end of sept since I've smoked actual weed. Hopefully it will be legit.

BTW its me Cloudy (my password got changed [wont get into the whole situation about it]), whats up

and btw anyone know anything about the cannabinoid UR-144? I'm trying to get a cannabinoid that I can have sent to TX since most are banned. I was thinking of a cannabinoid or a dissociative other than MXE, but I can't find any 3-meo-pcp, or any ket analogs. I'd like something I can enjoy at low does for a chill evening or at high doses but nothing psychedelic. Dissociative imo don't count as psychs in this sense.
 
evolution is not really the solution to everything... saying that we should discard the feeble among us doesnt seem right now does it. i mean, eugenics is quite the tricky subject wouldnt you think? once you think of getting rid of the people with such deficiencies, why not discard those with under average intelligence? and so on...

also, there is a lot of things that can be learned from studying these variations, or illnesses, including during the search for thier cure... that may have a wider application in medicine...
 
I'm on 55 mg 4-HO-MiPT right now. When those last 15 mg hit, things got pretty intense, and I started panicking a bit, but now things have calmed down and this is actually pretty nice. :) So much friendlier than a substance like 25I-NBOMe. I'm starting to see what Cyanoide means when he says that phenethylamines feel more engineered and synthetic, less human, than tryptamines.

I am rather enjoying myself right now.
 
also, there is a lot of things that can be learned from studying these variations, or illnesses, including during the search for thier cure... that may have a wider application in medicine...

Very true.

Man, some people take this day a bit too seriously. I went grocery shopping at 4 this afternoon and the streets and front lawns were already filled with wasted, screaming idiots. I'm all for getting hammered and having a good time but some people are just plain dumb and obnoxious. Major mob mentality thing happening too.

Already there's cop and ambulance sirens going off all over the place. :\

Bring back prohibition! =D ;)

I'm on my own until a couple roommates get back from a hockey game later on tonight.
 
I'm starting to see what Cyanoide means when he says that phenethylamines feel more engineered and synthetic, less human, than tryptamines.

I am rather enjoying myself right now.

I've never seen any N-bum thingies but I much prefer phens. I'm the reciprocal from you; I find tryptamines to feel more engineered and mechanistic, escpecially ones with propyl groups. 4-AcO-DIPT was cool and incredibly visual but very sharp and forceful. Phens are more gentle in my experience.

Everyone's brain is geared for different things, glad you're having a good trip. :)

I'm just waiting for my laundry to finish which contains my towel. I'm going to swallow some non-psychedelics and then jump in the shower.

I would like to take some sort of serotonin releaser but I really need my memory this week and I find the week after releasing 5-HT I'm a bit foggy.
 
KingMe, that is very interesting perspective. I don't think many people would consider evolution to be a deliberate thing. That by embracing evolution, we deliberately discard the feeble among us. I think that the opposite is true: with Western medicine, we are artificially sustaining life.

Although you could really see it either way.

Bring back prohibition! =D ;)

Haha! Well, now you see where they were coming from, PepperSocks! :D



Woahhhhhh man I feel like an amazing ball of weird organic electric energy stuff!!! :D
 
So much friendlier than a substance like 25I-NBOMe. I'm starting to see what Cyanoide means when he says that phenethylamines feel more engineered and synthetic, less human, than tryptamines.
I personally love 25i-NBOMe, along with basically every Phenethylamine Ive tried but 25i is currently at the top of my list. I have yet to try a psychedelic Tryptamine so Ive yet to experience the wonders of them, although this just makes me more keen to seek them out :)
 
^I personally love the Tryptamine family but they will always hold a special place in my heart. My first trip was with Mushrooms, many moons ago, and I feel that they were an excellent introduction to Tryptamines and psychedelics in general. I hope you enjoy them as much as i do.

This is my first post in this social thread. Hello fellow travelers.
 
Bring back prohibition! =D ;)

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"Ain't gonna keep me from havin' some damn likker."

=D

In all seriousness, though, I haven't drank or done any drugs in well over a week on account of having the flu. Sucked pretty hard and fucked up my spring break, but it did give me some distance from that shit and I think I'm done with that for a while. Being sober feels nice; still smoking a bit of weed, but honestly I'm kind of trying to quit that too.

Can't wait until I have some time when the time is right, so to speak, to eat a bit of acid and listen to that good ol' grateful dead. Get back to my spiritual roots a bit, cuz life just doesn't seem as bright these days. I think I might just need to feed my head. :)
 
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^I personally love the Tryptamine family but they will always hold a special place in my heart. My first trip was with Mushrooms, many moons ago, and I feel that they were an excellent introduction to Tryptamines and psychedelics in general. I hope you enjoy them as much as i do.
Ive had the opportunity to try Shrooms a number of times, most recently theyve just been overpriced so I didnt bother. And in the past I always had L available. I dont regret that though, Im not interested in Shrooms at all tbh. DMT, 4-AcO-DMT, and 4-HO-MET are the top 3 that I would love to try.
 
^^ I can’t blame you for taking the LSD before overpriced Mushies, or cheap ones for that matter. I would make the same call myself. I also agree that 4-Aco-DMT looks very, very interesting. I have head that 4-Aco is magic and I would like to see how similar it is to the classic psychedelic (4-Ho-DMT).

^^^Popcorn Sutton- “This Likker here is four fights to a pint.”
 
Very true.

Man, some people take this day a bit too seriously. I went grocery shopping at 4 this afternoon and the streets and front lawns were already filled with wasted, screaming idiots. I'm all for getting hammered and having a good time but some people are just plain dumb and obnoxious. Major mob mentality thing happening too.

That would never happen round these parts.
 
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Can't wait until I have some time when the time is right, so to speak, to eat a bit of acid and listen to that good ol' grateful dead. Get back to my spiritual roots a bit, cuz life just doesn't seem as bright these days. I think I might just need to feed my head. :)

Hmm. Interesting. I just find it very curious -- human beings and their relationship to music. Ultimately I think it must serve some sort of reproductive advantage, although I can't really imagine how or why that could be. But I firmly maintain the position that all major endeavors of humankind are not accidental, from an evolutionary perspective. And the amount of energy that humans put into creating pleasing sounds is astounding.
 
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