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Weee I get my UR-144 tomorrow. I'm looking forward to getting a cannabinoid high. Also since its a strong CB2 agonist that has reports of it being a heavy sedating cannabinoid, it should go fantastic with a little methadone am clonazepam.

Right now I'm enjoying

2mg clonazepam
30mg methadone
1000mg of Cimetidine
1 tall glass of white grapefruit juice
50mg doxylamine
50mg meclizine (bought it thinking it was cyclizine since it said "same as bonnie" on the box, and both bonnie and this meclizine is (RS)-1-[(4-chlorophenyl)(phenyl)methyl]-4-(3-methylbenzyl)piperazine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meclozine ) works ok, but its not quite the effect i want.

now about to eat dinner and have a beer
 
nearjat said:
Yeah I just took a 5mg spansule and I think this is a good match for me. Not pushy at all (low dose of course) and gives just enough drive to get more stuff done in a focused manner.
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That's exactly the relationship I used to have with it. I'd have a liquid solution made up and take just ~4-6mg when I wanted it. It worked great then. Then I started liking the 'boost', and that's where the doses went up to 10-15mg and cognitive benefits went kinda awry. It still increased my overall productivity speed but I definitely find learning done on 10+mg of amp is not retained. I'm just cranking stuff out without absorbing it. I need to regain that 5mg homeostasis.

I've also started taking ~1-2g of piracetam in the morning and 4 teaspoons of Cod-Liver oil a day. When I started taking the Cod liver oil my mind started feeling much better, I think I was seriously lacking omega 3's.

I'm going to shelf the racemic amphetamine though. It's the best stuff in the world when I'm out camping and hiking (and I'm going to save it for those occasions), but it's turned me into a strung out stress cadet since I started using it for sedentary desk work.

I've got some new toys coming in, 4-FA, 3-FA, 2-FMA and TMA-6. I have high hopes for 2-FMA; I know that methyl group has a stigma but I think the lipid solublity which enhances central effect selectivity is a good thing. It looks like a good study helper. 2-FA wasn't on the menu, but it's shorter duration is a downfall anyway. Being able to take a dose of 2-FMA and have it last all day is better than redosing. The 3-FA also looks promising for work with a bit more fun factor, and 4-FA looks like it might be my next 'fun-night' drug of choice.

I am very excited to try TMA-6. I just need to find the right setting. It sounds right up my alley. Also when you get into PIHKAL you see how easily TMA-6 is made, it's easily derived an essential oil of a plant (I forget the oil's name and the plant but it's in the fennel/aniseed/euginol group. Look up "essential amphetamines"; a group of amphetamines easily derived from essential oils of certain plants. The chemistry behind TMA-6 and the experience reports I've been reading have me excited :)

I'm resting tonight. Sorta boshed on etizolam and oxy. I had to bump a little ethylphenidate to keep me from falling asleep without keeping me up all night and killing my downskie buzz.
 
nearjat said:
Haha well that's too bad :P Yeah he'll cool off eventually.
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To be honest I'm glad to see he got the temp ban, it'll clear his mind of BL and using it as a dumping ground for his abrasive speed rants. Hopefully it gets his ass outside for some nice summer weather. :)

OTOH I'm glad he's not permabanned. Other than knowing him and how it sucks when a friend gets banished; He gets some good support in here, and I think he's just a mite messed up (and young) so slack should be cut.
 
On spring break and I have a baby sitter tonight I thought I would check out your blogs and would fit right in man I have no F'n clue what half this stuff is I have only been away from hallucinogens for a couple years it can't have changed that much.... can it?
 
Lightweight said:
On spring break and I have a baby sitter tonight I thought I would check out your blogs and would fit right in man I have no F'n clue what half this stuff is I have only been away from hallucinogens for a couple years it can't have changed that much.... can it?
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Ha, you'd be amazed how much things change. I remember when 2C's and 4-sub-tryps were all the new stuff there was to play with. Now with cathinones, fluorinated amphetamines, NBOMES, K/PCP analogues. It's a tidal wave of exponentially growing new psychoactives coming out.
 
PepperSocks said:
Ha, you'd be amazed how much things change. I remember when 2C's and 4-sub-tryps were all the new stuff there was to play with. Now with cathinones, fluorinated amphetamines, NBOMES, K/PCP analogues. It's a tidal wave of exponentially growing new psychoactives coming out.
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I ate sugar cubes and was knocked out by my fair share of quaaludes (I am too small for them) there was E ghb and what we called pure mdma special K I have no idea what these people are talking about do they just have different names for the same stuff (should I not call things by their names in here?) lmao
 
Lightweight said:
I ate sugar cubes and was knocked out by my fair share of quaaludes (I am too small for them) there was E ghb and what we called pure mdma special K I have no idea what these people are talking about do they just have different names for the same stuff (should I not call things by their names in here?) lmao
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Oh this place goes far beyond common street drugs. As for naming; call 'ecstasy' MDMA, call 'special K' just K or ketamine.

As for the other stuff (research chemicals), there's an alphanumeric system for acronyms of their chemical names. If you read up on chemical nomenclature you can piece together the code to what the molecule looks like.

Have a scan through the Index
 
Nice I love the profile pic btw I have never been snow boarding but I have skated A LOT I am an adrenalin e junkie now since I got "responsibilities" lmao
 
PepperSocks said:
Also when you get into PIHKAL you see how easily TMA-6 is made, it's easily derived an essential oil of a plant (I forget the oil's name and the plant but it's in the fennel/aniseed/euginol group.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think TMA-6 is an essential amphetamine because of its funky substitution pattern. Shulgin starts from phloroglucinol in PIHKAL, and it would seem odd for him to do that if there was an essential oil with the desired sub pattern already intact. Most of the other TMA's are essential amps, though.

But yeah, the spice cabinet really is a treasure trove of psychedelic precursors. I think most people would be flabbergasted if they knew all the good stuff you could make from essence of parsley. :D
 
Damn vendors. I got my 4-Aco-DMT but also got a sample of 4-MePPP, just when I had flushed all my (admittedly crappy) stims down the toilet.

This weekend I have tons of stuff to do and feel lethargic due to mirtazapine (I have to switch back to escitalopram, it's more effective for social anxiety anyway), and now I get this temptation dropped down my mailbox. Fortunately it's only a small sample if I can't resist the temptation.

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In a manner where the difference between dextro and racemic doesn't matter anymore :P

I've been ampy lately, I don't like it. I'm going to try 2-FMA in a bit to see if it's more selective. I find racemic amphetamine to be too stimulating and enjoyable, with too many side effects. I need something that's good for focus without too much peripheral effects. I find the peripheral effects correlate with euphoria. As in, I find racemic amp more fun than dex amp. It just gets you going and feeling uppity, and then downitty.
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I found MPA to be the best stim for functionality I've ever tried. It's not as euhporic as speed (d-amp) but it's almost as speedy though. With speed I don't get things done, my mind is all over the place (too euhporic), with MPA showeling snow and mowing the lawn was a piece of cake. It's a bit moreish though and keeps you awake for longer than speed. Never had any sort of comedown with functional small doses either.

Another thing which makes stims so moreish for me is I always snort them. Snorting itself becomes addictive. It's better to take them orally for functionality.
 
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Roger&Me said:
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think TMA-6 is an essential amphetamine because of its funky substitution pattern. Shulgin starts from phloroglucinol in PIHKAL, and it would seem odd for him to do that if there was an essential oil with the desired sub pattern already intact. Most of the other TMA's are essential amps, though.
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Haha, Rog, Right after I posted that I went hunting in the google machine and you're right, TMA and TMA-2 can be made from essential oils, not TMA-6. I did find some oils with the 2,4,6-methoxy pattern with another functional group sticking off it (hydroxyl IIRC) that could be an access point for adding an ethylamine chain (or a precursor to it).
 
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It seems 5-API/5-IT (5-(2-Aminopropyl)indole) is available from European vendors (it's covered by the analogue act in the US and Australia though). I'm not sure if would be a good functional stimulant though, and really have no interest in trying it.

Shulgin says in PiHKAL: "at 20 milligrams orally, [it] is a long-lived stimulant producing increased heart-rate, anorexia, diuresis, and slight hyperthermia for about twelve hours." Now if the effects last for 12 hours, I guess it will keep you up for a good amount of hours more.

Anyhow I was too weak and tried 4-MePPP. Very mellow high, resembles coke most of everything I've tried. But it really isn't that functional either, I feel a bit fluffy in my head and my pupils are as dilated as they can be. I'm always paranoid with stims, especially new ones, so I've taken so many antioxidants and vitamins they probably are a much heavier burden for my liver and kidneys than the compound itself. I have to go through all of my stuff this weekend since I'm moving to a new, lovely flat. It's just I have managed to keep a huge amount of unnecessary crap I have no use for. In every place I find stuff I don't need. Well it helps with moving since I have less stuff to pack.

I regret overdoing MXE, I would really like to have a small line now.
 
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Lightweight said:
Nice I love the profile pic btw I have never been snow boarding
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It's my all-time favorite outdoor, physical activity. :)

The pic is sort of false though; I don't live in the Rockies and I don't do jumps. I mangled my right wrist/shoulder really bad when I was 16 by overshooting the landing on a big jump, catching an edge, and crashing hard. I have 2 screws in my shoulder and it'll never be the same. So I don't do jumps anymore, but I love cruising the hill. Sometimes I like getting into the adrenaline though; I'm pretty good when it comes to control and speed. I love carving double black diamonds. :)
 
panic in paradise said:
This particular ptorch is tenacious - 16 freaking hours later...
FFS
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It's one of my favorite psychs. :)

You just reminded me of something I really want to do someday. It's a big project that's going to require resources though. I want to identify and sequence the genes in trichocereus that code for mescaline producing enzymes, and recombine them into yeast (rather than E.Coli; I'm pretty sure it needs to be eukaryotic). Then one could grow a huge batch of recombinant mescaline producing yeast.

Damn good idea IMO. Someday. ;)
 
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