LucidSDreamr
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^ mxe has some similarities to 3meo I would say. I've even holed of 3meo and it was quite similar to an mxe hole. 3 meo is just less euphoric than mxe in my opinion
Dissociatives PCP and analogs
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Is it true that a single dose of PCP (and not a mega-one, either.) can leave you fucked up for days because your body can't metabolize it efficiently? What's a moderate dose of PCP (assume pure product--I would rather underdose due to having cuts than overdose due to assuming the presence of cuts).
Bigazznugz
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Never had angeldust (PCP hci) before but I am assuming a decent insulfated dose would be ~10mgs. I have always seen powder pcp used in small ~10mg bumps. I would look on erowid for more dose information aswell.
Cuz you really don't want to take to much instead of taking too little, at least with PCP. Respect that shit, it's intense.
Cuz you really don't want to take to much instead of taking too little, at least with PCP. Respect that shit, it's intense.
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15 years ago I was getting strait liquid pcp. The guy would dip an end of a cigarette into the vial, and we’d suck the liquid through the cigarette and smoke it. We’d have a blast. Now there is like 3-MeO-PCP or 4-MeO-PCP and many more.. also some are I think legal! Which ones [snip] are closest to what I’m talking about? [snip - please kindly refrain from specific discussions about the legality of substances or where to obtain them. - moderator]
This is a list of them
This is a list of them
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Chris Timothy
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Never done PCP and haven't exhausted your list. But from reports it seems PCP is on the manic side. So maybe 3-MeO-PCE? Probably a bit warmer of an experience than you're used to.
Do check your local laws, and please don't try to source via this place.
Do check your local laws, and please don't try to source via this place.
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Yea I know not to. From what I’ve researched you can only order these online if you have either a chemist or DEA license or a special number. Though it says illegal in the UK and Switzerland they never mention the USA. And yea I like hallucinating and inner spiritual trips.
Chris Timothy
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If you like the spiritual feel, do consider the substances closer to MXE, like MXiPr. We're talking ketamine analogues at that point, then again, ketamine is a PCP analogue too.
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Hey guys,
I just bought 200mg of 3-HO-PCP and 3-MEO-PCP.
I have only tried the first lot of 3-meo, today. I tried snorting a little but didn’t want to go bulky or waste it as I was also experimenting with IM injections of 3-HO-PCP.
Thinwas the first time I did them. The second time I had a bit more respect in that I measured out a moderate dose of 3-ho-pcp and dissolved it in water and injected it.
I was under the impression 3-men-pcp didn’t dissolve in water for injections into muscle (my preferred method of ingesting, unless I have freebase, in which case am electronic vape is good.
unfortunately I just made a 200mg/100ml mixture of 3-meo-pcp in PG for vapi only to find out that the salt form doesn’t vape well.
I could dilute some with water and do an IM injection. What do you think? That’s how I was introduced to cyclohexanine’s or whatever dissociative anaesthetics are called these days.
In my day it was shard ketamine that dissolved beautifully for injection until I found Ketamax TM. And started importing that.
I’m actually looking into a ketamine addiction/anxiety/depression aided psychotherapy in Bristol at the moment to help me with my mental health issues.
it’s thats, ayahuasca or if I want to be really unkind to my body ibogaine…that’s the order of trying to get rid of my afflictions.
I can’t carry on like this…
way too addicted to benzos and yeh buprenorphine is great in espranor form but every time I come off it I end up using either heroin etazene or metonitazene!
Not good. Just a drug addict through and through.
Even acid, I can take excessively and same with 4-meo-dmt.
I need the therapy part of the psychedelic therapy. I have the psychedelics I just need to find a modern shaman that I trust, that I feel can help me.
I just bought 200mg of 3-HO-PCP and 3-MEO-PCP.
I have only tried the first lot of 3-meo, today. I tried snorting a little but didn’t want to go bulky or waste it as I was also experimenting with IM injections of 3-HO-PCP.
Thinwas the first time I did them. The second time I had a bit more respect in that I measured out a moderate dose of 3-ho-pcp and dissolved it in water and injected it.
I was under the impression 3-men-pcp didn’t dissolve in water for injections into muscle (my preferred method of ingesting, unless I have freebase, in which case am electronic vape is good.
unfortunately I just made a 200mg/100ml mixture of 3-meo-pcp in PG for vapi only to find out that the salt form doesn’t vape well.
I could dilute some with water and do an IM injection. What do you think? That’s how I was introduced to cyclohexanine’s or whatever dissociative anaesthetics are called these days.
In my day it was shard ketamine that dissolved beautifully for injection until I found Ketamax TM. And started importing that.
I’m actually looking into a ketamine addiction/anxiety/depression aided psychotherapy in Bristol at the moment to help me with my mental health issues.
it’s thats, ayahuasca or if I want to be really unkind to my body ibogaine…that’s the order of trying to get rid of my afflictions.
I can’t carry on like this…
way too addicted to benzos and yeh buprenorphine is great in espranor form but every time I come off it I end up using either heroin etazene or metonitazene!
Not good. Just a drug addict through and through.
Even acid, I can take excessively and same with 4-meo-dmt.
I need the therapy part of the psychedelic therapy. I have the psychedelics I just need to find a modern shaman that I trust, that I feel can help me.
Oh also I dunno exactly how much 3-meo-pcp I im’d but it was a very stimulating experience and not All that pleasant really but very introspective.
I didn’t find it pleasurable but I figured out a lot of stuff about my life with it!
It wasn’t more than 20mg
I didn’t find it pleasurable but I figured out a lot of stuff about my life with it!
It wasn’t more than 20mg
plumbus-nine
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I don't believe anymore of those PCP horror stories. These people must have been seriously fucked before, or thrown caution about dosing in the wind which isn't too difficult to see when you're talking about some random liquid in which some random cig gets dipped for a random time. But PCP is said to have a strong manic pressure; I am pretty susceptible to this and loved the hypomanic energy of MXE, DCK & Co. even ketamine made me walk for hours on end when I should have been rather exhausted. Paid my price in pain afterwards. Yet these don't trigger full on mania which PCP can, at least 3-MeO-PCP can (among others, I suspect that it was impure and/or the bunk stuff before not just bunk but toxic, also some dumbass doc put me cold off memantine - this should be rather depressive though instead of triggering the one and only manic episode I've ever had.)
The -HO dissociatives are weird. They should feel like MeO + opioid but to me 3-HO-PCP was dysphoric. Felt wrong, stupid and wasted when I had a pretty strong tolerance and greatly enjoyed DCK.
3-MeO-PCE was characterized as being feminine by somebody to which I have to agree. Unfortunately also heavily impairs my ability to speech which K never did.
The PCEs are much more nice than the knockout dissociative PCP. That said incident which made me manic shortly after was nice initially but I passed out off a very low dose which is unlikely. I happened to pass out from sky high doses of MXE and DCK later but it was only cold and confusing, I was chasing a hole which I never reached. The MeO-PCP felt very salvaged but the allegedly same substance shortly after was just harsh (different batch - these arylcyclohexylamines are dirty as in affecting many different receptors with similar and individual strength, so each and every is its own kind). I theorize of some being steroids or -mimetics.
Please be careful with the dosage and don't do the embalming fluid route. Wait at least one hour before redosing serious amounts and know that PCPs have a long half life which is PCP > PCE > PCM. Also some of them are strongly vasoconstrictive, don't know for sure whether it was specially DCK or impurities because MXE didn't have this but you shouldn't smoke too much on them and preferrably e-cig. Also marijuana strongly interacts, very differently so than psychedelics. With psychs some low dose of disso actually takes away all the anxiety and as a cherry on top, 5ht2a agonists protect against disso induced neurotoxicity (which I'm not so convinced to readily happen in humans but prolonged use isn't healthy for sure).
Oh, dissos can make you meditate. Darken your room, put on some soft music you like, preferrably with comfortable headphones, maybe some trippy visuals but best is just a cuddly bed in darkness. With or without somebody close, doesn't have to be a romantic relationship as you'll forget the other one at some point anyways and sex on dissos isn't much fun, but it definitely helps with letting go (specially if you're a control freak like me). Might bring you closer together. I had a girl falling in love with me after doing some MXE nights together, didn't think that because she was one who could choose between many men, and I was stuck in a bad relationship, unfortunately. Didn't end good.
Also you don't wanna do the more oxytocinergic dissos like DCK, possibly MXE (R.I.P.) etc. with homophobic people of the same gender. While I thought of nothing bad (we were sitting some meters apart anyways), a buddy freaked out, and because of his energy I did the same. Locked myself into the bathroom while he somehow took/flushed all my stash and forget all until that he'd seen "a demon in the window" and was scared off me ever since. He's physically much stronger. I shoulda have used this to get my debt back but I;'m too soft for this sort of business..
The -HO dissociatives are weird. They should feel like MeO + opioid but to me 3-HO-PCP was dysphoric. Felt wrong, stupid and wasted when I had a pretty strong tolerance and greatly enjoyed DCK.
3-MeO-PCE was characterized as being feminine by somebody to which I have to agree. Unfortunately also heavily impairs my ability to speech which K never did.
The PCEs are much more nice than the knockout dissociative PCP. That said incident which made me manic shortly after was nice initially but I passed out off a very low dose which is unlikely. I happened to pass out from sky high doses of MXE and DCK later but it was only cold and confusing, I was chasing a hole which I never reached. The MeO-PCP felt very salvaged but the allegedly same substance shortly after was just harsh (different batch - these arylcyclohexylamines are dirty as in affecting many different receptors with similar and individual strength, so each and every is its own kind). I theorize of some being steroids or -mimetics.
Please be careful with the dosage and don't do the embalming fluid route. Wait at least one hour before redosing serious amounts and know that PCPs have a long half life which is PCP > PCE > PCM. Also some of them are strongly vasoconstrictive, don't know for sure whether it was specially DCK or impurities because MXE didn't have this but you shouldn't smoke too much on them and preferrably e-cig. Also marijuana strongly interacts, very differently so than psychedelics. With psychs some low dose of disso actually takes away all the anxiety and as a cherry on top, 5ht2a agonists protect against disso induced neurotoxicity (which I'm not so convinced to readily happen in humans but prolonged use isn't healthy for sure).
Me too, both sides. I'd need a modern shaman (who better knows what he does) as well as that I'd love to assist / sit others when making their experiences. It's kinda boring to be the only one sober I guess but that's a good task for me to solve. I'm constantly bored and often enough take drugs just for the distraction (while staying more focused than sober - I'm not the meditation guy unfortunately.)
Oh, dissos can make you meditate. Darken your room, put on some soft music you like, preferrably with comfortable headphones, maybe some trippy visuals but best is just a cuddly bed in darkness. With or without somebody close, doesn't have to be a romantic relationship as you'll forget the other one at some point anyways and sex on dissos isn't much fun, but it definitely helps with letting go (specially if you're a control freak like me). Might bring you closer together. I had a girl falling in love with me after doing some MXE nights together, didn't think that because she was one who could choose between many men, and I was stuck in a bad relationship, unfortunately. Didn't end good.
Also you don't wanna do the more oxytocinergic dissos like DCK, possibly MXE (R.I.P.) etc. with homophobic people of the same gender. While I thought of nothing bad (we were sitting some meters apart anyways), a buddy freaked out, and because of his energy I did the same. Locked myself into the bathroom while he somehow took/flushed all my stash and forget all until that he'd seen "a demon in the window" and was scared off me ever since. He's physically much stronger. I shoulda have used this to get my debt back but I;'m too soft for this sort of business..
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