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Paterson / North Jersey Dope

how is using different colored bags any different than using different names on stamps?

its all just a way for the users to remember which dope did speak for itself.
 
shimazu said:
how is using different colored bags any different than using different names on stamps?

its all just a way for the users to remember which dope did speak for itself.
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For one, they stick out like a sore thumb. It's a lot harder for someone to catch a flash of a white bag during a hand off than it is a green or pink one.
 
IME, it's usually never a good sign when the bags are different in any way from the normal size that I get. In general, I think what this means is that my dealer ran out of his usual supplies and is dipping into a reserve stash, or is using a 2nd rate distributor. It could even be the same issue with the guy one rung up the ladder from my dealer, as in the dude my dealer gets from cant get from his normal sources. I've never had it turn out good whenever I had colorful bags, or flimsy bags or bigger than normal bags. They are all distractions to try to make the dope look more attractive or professionally packaged, but it's never good dope. Again. IME
 
Pink bags are pretty common...I'd say blue are the most common.. I'd say it goes Blue, white, pink, yellow...It could be packaged in anything, but why would you decide to use clown green bags? If the dope sucks, people will immediately steer clear regardless.
 
LSDiesel said:
IME, it's usually never a good sign when the bags are different in any way from the normal size that I get. In general, I think what this means is that my dealer ran out of his usual supplies and is dipping into a reserve stash, or is using a 2nd rate distributor. It could even be the same issue with the guy one rung up the ladder from my dealer, as in the dude my dealer gets from cant get from his normal sources. I've never had it turn out good whenever I had colorful bags, or flimsy bags or bigger than normal bags. They are all distractions to try to make the dope look more attractive or professionally packaged, but it's never good dope. Again. IME
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I got green bags one St. Pattys day and I figured they were being sold for the occasion, but then they continued having the green bags for at least 4 months. I also had a dealer that sold blank colored bags, and they went from dark brown, to blue, to purple over the course of a year, with each color being around for an equal amount of time (4 months each, making a year for the 3 colors). I think that these were from Queens as well, so not really relevant to NJ.

BlueHues said:
Pink bags are pretty common...I'd say blue are the most common.. I'd say it goes Blue, white, pink, yellow...It could be packaged in anything, but why would you decide to use clown green bags? If the dope sucks, people will immediately steer clear regardless.
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I've gotten pink bags twice before, both times they were from Queens. Then I got them myself when I went to buy glassines at the head-shop. They only had white or pink bags, and since the pink ones were narrower I went with them since I admit I wanted the bags to look fatter. :sus:
 
in paterson, at least when i used to cop dope there, the colored bags were almost always red. (red devil stamp) and clones of it. i got blue bags once. how is it in paterson these days? still as drug ridden as always?
 
rules said:
in paterson, at least when i used to cop dope there, the colored bags were almost always red. (red devil stamp) and clones of it. i got blue bags once. how is it in paterson these days? still as drug ridden as always?
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Yeah, P-town is still full of dope. Good shit too and for dirt cheap. I've never gotten colored bags there though.
 
Swain said:
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Or at the very least, ge tsomeone to drive down with you. If you drive, aim for "african-american ish named streets" and the surrounding area. Do not circle around blocks and solicit person after person. NJ has 'loitering with intent to purchase a cds.' If your seen circling, doing a handoff, solicitning individuals, etc.. you are gonna get slapped with a misdemeaner and a $1k fine. They hand these out like goodybags to people like you. Plan your trip in advance, make sure you pay attention and dont drive down 1-ways the wrong way. Do NOT hand the money over before the dope is in your hand. No dealer who is legit will require you to give him the money first. Even the little 12 year olds. Look for healthy ghetto dudes that are dressed well, not crackhead types. Old dudes with no teeth are at BEST going to want a middle man fee.

NEVER HAND OFF YOUR MONEY. NEVER EVER EVER. If he will not put the dope in your hand before you hand the money never do it. Never buy shit that is wrapped in anything unless your getting bricks in which case they are wrapped in pornos or newspapers.

If I was in your situation, id say take a cruise through town figure out where the grease areas are, leave go to clifton eat lunch or something, later come back hit the areas you became familiar with. Corner dudes will have no problem selling you 3 or 4 bags. Best thing is to sample a few stamps, collect a few numbers, decide what you want, then grab a bun or 2. Until you are fimilar with copping and your dealer I wouldnt get more than 2 buns at once. If you get a brick ALWYS crack it open. They put good and plentys in the pornos sometimes so when you crack it open your liek fuck i have 10 candies not 50 bags .

Once you cop, wrap that shit up in plastic and put it in your ass crack. Cops can and will search you like crazy man and any dumb excuse you think of is going to be clearly bullshit. The amount of out of town white traffic buying drugs is astronomical, they have heard it all/;. That being said, NEVER ADMIT your looking for drugs, thats a guaranteed loutering with intent ticket, deny deny deny. Dont be dumb and do a shot down the block from where you cop.

Realize dude that dope even a single bag is a felony in nj 3-5 years. Personally I was with a clean record, got cought with less than a bill worth of dope and coke and the first offer was fuckng 3 years state, or 5 drug court.
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Hahaha, Fucking CLASSIC PATERSON with the now and laters. (Im assuming thats what u meant not good n plentys?) Funny thing is Now and Later was a really fucking good stamp from paterson back in the summer of 08, purple stamp, real nice, anyways.

You are right about a lot of the shit you mentioned here but the "black named street" you mentioned is hot zone.

However I disagree with some of the shit you said as far as "never admit anything" yes it differs from cop to cop. But IME Paterson cops WILL PLANT SHIT ON YOU if they get pissed off at you or think you have an attitude. not like it happens everytime but it DOES happen. The one time I got rolled up on, I had copped earlier in the day, bags were shit, booted all of them and went back for more like a half hr later. So I was waiting a block down from the spot that my boy always had me roll up to, and he forgot to bleep me so Im waitin and sat there like 20 min and turned out the TNTs in a all black tinted out pickup (believe it was a dodge ram but coulda been a F150, almost same shit anways) with a bed cover any everything, real nice truck, and they roll up and do the whole "we know you copping drugs, ywhat you doing here sitting, etc." I just pulled the rest of my money out my bra and was like yo....If I had anything on me and copped already...why would I have money left? Im a fucking junkie. If i bought dope you already know I aint got a single dollar left on me." They just did the whole "ahh, get outta here you fucking scumbag kid, and dont come back" routine and I left without even a ticket.

However paterson cops all different, you got the regulars marked and unmarked, you got the statey TNT boys and the regular sheriff TNT boys which are a division of the county. There is ALWAYS somebody rollin around paterson watching you but you just gotta hit the right spots.

I know people who used to have numbers and have their guy meet them waaaay over in the white people hood. That little strip along route 20 where the houses have lawns and are big. I mean, the one spot of paterson that aint even a little hood looking. And the boys still caught em out over there too, and that area was NOT even the type of place you can cold cop, not a drug area at all. so you really roll the dice fucking with ptown.

And one other thing that I just...have no idea what the hell you are talking about...is the charges you said you got. WTF? That makes no sense at all. In NJ, if you have a clean record, you either get conditional discharge (which is the 'slap on the wrist' for misdemeanors) and PTI which is the same thing for felonies.

If you get caught in Paterson your first time you get off so easy because they see that shit all fucking day. sometimes people get off with just fines and shit, get possession downgraded to loitering wiith intent to purchase CDS, etc. I mean seriously..you say you only had a little bit of dope...It was your first time....There is no way you would get ANY TIME at all, nevermind 3 years state. You must have had the worlds worst lawyer or something, or misunderstood what you were being told. The law allows MAXIMUM PENALTY for a felony dope possession charge, to be 3-5 years but you NEVER get that on a first offense...or a second...or a third....I cant tell you how many people I know who been popped for dope possession like 5 or 6 times and only went to jail after like the 4th charge. In places like paterson and newark where its all dope all day and they got murder and shit like that to deal with they just run u thru the system like nothing. Not saying you cant get serious penalties for getting caught. You most definitely can.

But telling people that "watch out, in jersey, if you get caught for your first time wtih one bag of dope you can go to jail for 3 years in state prison!" is just....against everything that is true about how the legal system works in that situation.

If its your first offense and you got a clean record otherwise you can honestly expect to pretty much have probation for 6 months or a year that they nevver even call you into.

It differs for everyone and I aint saying I know everyones deal because its alll a roll of the dice but in general to give the idea that youll get locked up on your first dope charge is just ridiculous. You get ROR'ed and be out copping another brick in 3 hours.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
For one, they stick out like a sore thumb. It's a lot harder for someone to catch a flash of a white bag during a hand off than it is a green or pink one.
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yeah that is a valid point, if you get it in a car its not as big a deal though
 
Yeah, this is fuckin New Jersey. I know it ain't Denmark, Sweden, England or the the Netherlands, but in the US, I would say that dope is on average, the "most accepted" here in NJ. It would make sense that where the dope is the the most prevelent, ie Paterson, Newark, Camden that they really wouldn't be able to put you in jail for having a single bag, cuz they literally see that shit not only everyday, but probably every hour. Shit if you got gum on your shoe and you walk in downtown Newark for a few blocks, you will get some empty glassine bags stuck to you!

Oh, FREE ADVICE kids, if you cop dope in New Jersey, or anywhere for that matter, pour out all your other bags into one bag(and get rid of the the other bags). That way, it looks like a hell of a lot less dope. It will be one thick muthafucker, but Jersey bundles are never more than .6 grams anyway, and well over a gram of powder will fit pretty nicely in any of the glassines I have seen
 
anyone ever been around the Allentown / Easton PA area?

I swear there's gotta be a sizeable amount of dope there.

located just down a major highway from Newark? √
rising number of people below the poverty line? √
only urban area for a decent amount of time? √

Crayola ftw

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I was in rehab outside of Scranton and there's supposedly a lot of dope in Allentown for the size of the place. It seems pretty damn far from Newark though.
 
it is compared to like how close Newark and Paterson and NYC all are. But actual travel time probably isnt that long.

Easton is like the safest poor(ish) city I've ever been to though. Idk how to explain that besides if you go there you'll know what I mean.
 
BlueHues said:
I was in rehab outside of Scranton and there's supposedly a lot of dope in Allentown for the size of the place. It seems pretty damn far from Newark though.
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Really? Allentown? Hah. Is it open air or do you have to know somebody?
If open air, that would be nice, since allentown is alot closer than where I have to go to cop.
 
I think if you walk around long enough it could be found eventually. Just look for shady individuals
 
JunkieDays said:
Really? Allentown? Hah. Is it open air or do you have to know somebody?
If open air, that would be nice, since allentown is alot closer than where I have to go to cop.
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A lot of people in this rehab were from all over the Northeast, quite a few from all over New York and New Jersey....Like I said it was near Scranton and Allentown I don't think is too far from there...

The majority of the people who weren't there for alcohol seemed to be in there for mostly the roxi blues...to kids I was friendly with in there were from Brooklyn and they even had some of the same pill dealers, but they noth knew absolutely nothing about heroin, which I guess is the norm these days..

Anyway, there was one kid that I actually kept in touch with who bounced around and lived in Scranton and Allentown, he was most recently coming from Allentown doin dope there.

He said that overall the dope scene there is run by blacks and it's shady as fuck and easy to get burned, he said there's a lot of it there but it's not super easy to just cold-cop and find and it's mostly phone connects. Apparently it's pretty violent for a small city, lot of crack and a dickhead PD! I get the impression that you could find it if you knew what you're doing, but like a lot of places I've been, for every 5 people selling rock you'll find one person with dope. so it gets annoying to walk around and keep getting approached for crack! Then, when you do tell people you want dope, half the time they'll tell you that they can get it, give you the run around and try to rip you off, so be careful!

This other dope fiend is his 40s I met in there was from Scranton and the Scranton dope scene sounds like it's pretty small, more crack there too and sounded a little bit taxed for the prices, definitely more expensive than NJ...apparently in a lot of the smaller towns goin inland in PA people bring dope in from Philly or Jersey and charge 15-20 for a single stamp-bag!(I don't think that's really price discussion, it's so vague)

but, you could give Allentown a try....
 
Nah, sounds like it's too much work.. I just thought it would be more convenient since it's closer than where I would normally cop at.
Not worth going through the trouble imo.
 
BlueHues said:
apparently in a lot of the smaller towns goin inland in PA people bring dope in from Philly or Jersey and charge 15-20 for a single stamp-bag!(I don't think that's really price discussion, it's so vague)
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That totally is price discussion and not allowed, but I'm gonna leave it just because it's so fucking absurdly expensive. $150-200 a fucking bundle? Holy shit I would just buy Oxy and come out cheaper with a much better drug all around. Mother fucker, that's the only reason I even started using heroin in the first place was the low price. Holy shit how insane. They better give you some faaaaaaaat bags for that price and damn pure too. I'm talkin each one of those bags had better be like .3 of some raw shit. Fuck
 
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