Oxycodone Withdrawals

[Robi]

I'm with you there----God I miss having someone to talk to--this forum has been a true lifesaver the past 2 weeks.--You are a true sweetheart--Thank you or should I say Cheers-(miss that from the UK--it was cheers everywhere for hello and definitely goodbye--a simple cheers)---Obviously I miss other things from the UK--maybe I should try those poppy pods ---My pcp sent a message to me telling me she can't increase the dosage until at least our next appt-in about a month. The specialists I will be seeing before that of course won't touch my meds with a 10 foot pole--4 15s a day is not cutting it. its only helped with the wd/s --which I must say was a blessing, but the pain is back with a vengeance-like a punishment---mostly auto-immune conditions and now other fun things.....

shocked and inspired you can see the lil blessings through all this BS, wish i could whisk you away and we could cleanse, naturally as possible, the whole mind body spirit but just a dream, sure can be tough, just like you, try your damned best, i know you are, i got a bunch of appts , skin doc, primary care physician, eye and dental,i never saw doctors, but im trying now, plus after 50 seems wiser, but damned appts are month out, my new dentist is the only one that gives quick appts,amazes me, stay in touch with us pls

 

[juler]

I'm with you there----God I miss having someone to talk to--this forum has been a true lifesaver the past 2 weeks.--You are a true sweetheart--Thank you or should I say Cheers-(miss that from the UK--it was cheers everywhere for hello and definitely goodbye--a simple cheers)---Obviously I miss other things from the UK--maybe I should try those poppy pods ---My pcp sent a message to me telling me she can't increase the dosage until at least our next appt-in about a month. The specialists I will be seeing before that of course won't touch my meds with a 10 foot pole--4 15s a day is not cutting it. its only helped with the wd/s --which I must say was a blessing, but the pain is back with a vengeance-like a punishment---mostly auto-immune conditions and now other fun things.....

When the OP doesn't have anyone to talk to, they may feel they can share on this forum. Do you think I should tell my Dad who's in his late 70's? He's one of the only people I communicate with regularly. Maybe if I was shooting up large quantities you would believe me--you know I used to go to this forum back in the early 2010's but never joined-. Now I'm seeing why--You know I really needed the help I got and I appreciate it all-and yes-by my avatar-I am a girl. I don't know whether I will post again or definitely as much--I had just joined and I thought I was with friends.--Now just a comment -probably here and there--so thanks prick--you really took a helpful lifeline away from someone who really really needed it--and sure you say good riddance, but I really did and still do need help----so thanks again--you've been so non-judgemental and empathetic---My son would just call you a troll and tell me to ignore you, but I NEVER reach out--so I shared too much--as I hadn't even told my sister. Won't happen again

Just a little message for pinprick--just b/c i'm not using a cool name and not quoting comfortably numb and I used my real pic and I got my scripts froms drs--doesn't make my story less true. If you want we can go through my long cutting and real suicide attempts--still have the scars physically and mentally from those and they're 30 yrs old. I just have always done everything in excess. It really bothers me that I finally tell the truth and so many members don't believe me...It actually makes me angry and confused--isn't this forum for helping?--not judging? I can get judged by anyone else who doesn't know about addiction--but other adducted people should know, and yes after my divorce--I just didn't care anymore--my son said the light had just gone from my eyes with the oxys and I did very little. If it weren't for the kids, I would not be here. (sorry for sharing too much.) |Go back to laughing, I've been hoping my health would get worse and-ta-da it has--that way my kids can't blame me if something happens. I was trying to see if I could try and get my life back, but I am still having problems--the tiny script I got 10 days ago runs out by Wednesday -it should, but I am down to 8 15's and I have at least 4 full days to go so 4 15's a day won't work and I tried so hard and got so far but in the end it doesn't even matter--see I can quote songs too.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

It really bothers me that I finally tell the truth and so many members don't believe me...

It was only one that didn't. The rest of the posts are very supportive,

Please don't let one member keep you from continuing your journey on here. I hope you keep us updated.

 

[juler]

There were a few people that called b.s. on me, or just didn't believe me---I just don't open up like that usually--and I felt very vulnerable with wds--I probably should have kept my info short--I didn't think the amount was as sky-high as it was--I just told the truth. I was shocked that so many users-people like me didn't it. I will continue on the forum though, but will keep a little more to myself---I'll be in partial wds again anyway by Monday as this tiny refill I shd have known I couldn't hold it together--and Mondays a holiday so if I'm lucky and keep my dose in half tomorrow and monday--I might make it--but if they go to tuesday or God forbid wednesday--which is the 14th day-2 week script - I'll be back to shit None of this matters though, as my Grandma just died and my stepmom is so upset...just want to be there for them--but still even on the small amt of meds, I am still going through partial wds--anyway--need to keep it short--Thanks for reaching out!

 

[Las Veghost grower]

There were a few people that called b.s. on me, or just didn't believe me---I just don't open up like that usually--and I felt very vulnerable with wds--I probably should have kept my info short--I didn't think the amount was as sky-high as it was--I just told the truth. I was shocked that so many users-people like me didn't it. I will continue on the forum though, but will keep a little more to myself---I'll be in partial wds again anyway by Monday as this tiny refill I shd have known I couldn't hold it together--and Mondays a holiday so if I'm lucky and keep my dose in half tomorrow and monday--I might make it--but if they go to tuesday or God forbid wednesday--which is the 14th day-2 week script - I'll be back to shit None of this matters though, as my Grandma just died and my stepmom is so upset...just want to be there for them--but still even on the small amt of meds, I am still going through partial wds--anyway--need to keep it short--Thanks for reaching out!

Most people think I’m full of shit when I say how much dmt Iv done in a single dose, Erowid says a high dose of dmt is 60mg, so it must not be possible to quadruple that …truth is some tend to push shit as far as we can, and some people just don’t understand that, which isn’t a bad thing

 

[juler]

I Know, its like you finally unload the truth you've been holding on to for years, and people don't believe you. If it weren't for people like you and many others, I was going to leave the site, b/c I am one of those people who when called a liar get angry. I must say I have gotten some useful info from many people. I also found out in the state of Mass, if you are on state insurance--they underprescribe you, so---for the airlines I've sent in my resume too and competed all their required info--- hurry up with that job! Private insurance starts on day 1 of employment.

 

[juler]

Well if there is any insurance snafu or anything tomorrow, I am now down to one pill. It was only a 2 week script, but I have duh a hard time sticking to the script---really--I ended up taking an extra quite a few times. I really should have enough for even through wednesday .I don't think the one day early should be that bad--I have been taking 3 for the past 2 days and 2 today--yes--I can definitely feel the wds coming back--its going to take all i've got to hold that last one until the morning, but thats when I feel the worst so I will do it. I've only taken 2 today--and theses are all 15's--I used to call them the why bothers when one dr tried to taper me down from my supposed afternoon dose of 30. God I hope I get my script tomorrow--I'm sure prick is lhao.

 

[juler]

BTW I got a bottle of melatonin max amt of course--and that shit works--I took a 3 hr nap today, my son shook me awake--he gets worried about everything--I'm trying not to take the last pill till morning--so I figured a nap to make the time pass faster I'll tale the melatonin again tonight when I go to bed--that and the new melatonin sleep spray I also got on amazon--damn-- I thought the spray was helping, but 3 hrs for a nap for me--unprecedented. I'm lucky if I sleep 4 hrs a night of interrupted sleep --and with the melatonin--I slept straight through for 3 hrs--would have been longer if grrrrr my son didn't wake me up. So happy I found this stuff. Also, the poppy pods would show up on my urine screen I presume? I wanted to try them -still do--

 

[Liteman6969]

they had 160mg???

I remember 80mg was everywhere 10-15 years ago, I've never seen pill with more than that in my life, I thought 80mg was the max

I was thinking the same thing, I have never heard of anyone taking more than 300-400mg per day, I thought of death at first, but then I looked at the LD50 of oxy and it's actually quite high... about 100mg/kg in mice... which blew my mind... but humans are always different. I can't imagine someone being functional on anything above 500mg/day

The 160 mg was oblong and blue and was about as rare as a unicorn. When Purdue released OCs, the dosage was 10 mg (white), 20 mg (pink), 40mg(yellow), 80mg (green), and 160 mg (blue).

 

[Liteman6969]

Juler,
You hang in there sweetheart, try to find some happiness in your life whether it's in your kids or a hobby. Since your tolerance was through the stratosphere, there probably isn't a drug that will give you an exact replacement and since you are through the worst part of the withdrawal, Suboxone, Sublocade, or Methadone are gonna be the only 'acceptable' drugs that doctors will prescribe in the United States that will even come close to replacing that void on your opioid receptors. I've been where you are and through it all the thing that worked for me was realizing my problem and going through a lot of trial and error in my search to find a suitable replacement for the hundreds upon hundreds of OC 80s I purchased from farmacias in Mexico. I thought my search was over when I discovered methadone. After years of paying absurd amounts of money, I decided to detox myself by 10 mg per month. At the time, I was on 160 mg of methadone per day. Thirteen months later, I get my dose down to 30 mg. The clinic changed my treatment to a private doctor. I tell the doctor Ive been using marijuana to help with the withdrawals so when I come in for my refill, my urinalysis is gonna have THC in it. He said 'No Problem.' I go in, pee in a cup for my refill, the test is positive, and I meet the ABSOLUTE WORST NURSE I ever met by the name of Linda Hixson. After 13 months of detoxing, she cuts me off cold turkey at 40 mg. I've never been so sick in my life. The difference between withdrawing off an opiate like methadone vs. one like oxycodone is on methadone, by day 4 or 5, the horrible withdrawals that you have been running your life are just getting started and it does nothing but get worse and worse. On oxycodone, by day 4 or 5, you are looking at the light at the end of the tunnel. Juler, you will be in my prayers and I wish you the very best in life. Sorry for the long post and name drop, but that woman deserves so much more than I can do to her. Good Luck to you and your family. You may want to listen to your son, for he is smarter than you probably think.

P.S. Cannabis and Sublocade is the combination that has my mind content from using these days. Thanks for your time

 

[juler]

You've been through the wringer as well. It sounds like you came through quite well. My problem today was after 14 days of wds. My dr gave me an absolutely tiny rx of oxys 4 15s a day for only 2 weeks. I was still happy not to suffer anymore. Well when the 2 weeks runs out tomorrow--I expected another 2 week refill as she advised. She put me on 2 30's mr a day starting Friday and I'm like what do I do until Friday as I took my last pill this morning. I will have to go through the days of hell again--and THAT is what bothers me. I've been on the phone with them the pharmacy etc...-I got them to refill it on Thursday now--that still puts a 14 day RX at 15 days. It's truly screwed up. Already feeling sick again--Thank you so much for your kind words and support -its hard when all you have is your youngest son who is getting less and less understanding.....This forum has been great--expect for one prick.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

Juler,
You hang in there sweetheart, try to find some happiness in your life whether it's in your kids or a hobby. Since your tolerance was through the stratosphere, there probably isn't a drug that will give you an exact replacement and since you are through the worst part of the withdrawal, Suboxone, Sublocade, or Methadone are gonna be the only 'acceptable' drugs that doctors will prescribe in the United States that will even come close to replacing that void on your opioid receptors. I've been where you are and through it all the thing that worked for me was realizing my problem and going through a lot of trial and error in my search to find a suitable replacement for the hundreds upon hundreds of OC 80s I purchased from farmacias in Mexico. I thought my search was over when I discovered methadone. After years of paying absurd amounts of money, I decided to detox myself by 10 mg per month. At the time, I was on 160 mg of methadone per day. Thirteen months later, I get my dose down to 30 mg. The clinic changed my treatment to a private doctor. I tell the doctor Ive been using marijuana to help with the withdrawals so when I come in for my refill, my urinalysis is gonna have THC in it. He said 'No Problem.' I go in, pee in a cup for my refill, the test is positive, and I meet the ABSOLUTE WORST NURSE I ever met by the name of Linda Hixson. After 13 months of detoxing, she cuts me off cold turkey at 40 mg. I've never been so sick in my life. The difference between withdrawing off an opiate like methadone vs. one like oxycodone is on methadone, by day 4 or 5, the horrible withdrawals that you have been running your life are just getting started and it does nothing but get worse and worse. On oxycodone, by day 4 or 5, you are looking at the light at the end of the tunnel. Juler, you will be in my prayers and I wish you the very best in life. Sorry for the long post and name drop, but that woman deserves so much more than I can do to her. Good Luck to you and your family. You may want to listen to your son, for he is smarter than you probably think.

P.S. Cannabis and Sublocade is the combination that has my mind content from using these days. Thanks for your time

Excellent post. Welcome to bluelight. Hope to see more posts from you.

 

[Liteman6969]

You've been through the wringer as well. It sounds like you came through quite well. My problem today was after 14 days of wds. My dr gave me an absolutely tiny rx of oxys 4 15s a day for only 2 weeks. I was still happy not to suffer anymore. Well when the 2 weeks runs out tomorrow--I expected another 2 week refill as she advised. She put me on 2 30's mr a day starting Friday and I'm like what do I do until Friday as I took my last pill this morning. I will have to go through the days of hell again--and THAT is what bothers me. I've been on the phone with them the pharmacy etc...-I got them to refill it on Thursday now--that still puts a 14 day RX at 15 days. It's truly screwed up. Already feeling sick again--Thank you so much for your kind words and support -its hard when all you have is your youngest son who is getting less and less understanding.....This forum has been great--expect for one prick.

Juler, this doctor you are seeing is trying to make you as comfortable as the law will allow him to. It sounds like he's a decent doctor that is looking out for you the best way he can legally. JSYK, Im no professional, Im just trying to share my experience with you. You have to make a decision at some point in your life to stop the destructive things you are doing to your body. I think I read somewhere in this post that you were in your early 30s. Your body can't stand that much abuse for much longer. Juler, the decision to stop came to me when I had finally got tired of chasing down the meds I needed just to get out of bed, the proverbial ball and chain the pills put around my ankle not to mention the roller coaster of highs and lows that became the norm in my life.

 

[Howyou]

I believe you truly need suboxone at a minimum, I just don't have an answer for you to get it without insurance or money. I've been in that same spot myself for a long time. The hidden poverty of America.

Sub should only be taking for 4 -5 days

 

[juler]

I really like this dr. She really has been great--its the insurance I think--I;'m waiting for a new job that will hopefully get me on better insurance-----My body unfortunately has been through a lot of abuse and at this point in my life ---i'm just getting to the point of not caring. My son is mad at me for having to go through wds again for 2 days---He was initially very supportive, but he wants to get on with his life, He is holding out so much for the same job we both applied for. I would rather he got it than I. I just want to see him happy.....

 

[Oxygod126]

I agree with liteman. You should honestly be very grateful that you found a doctor as caring and empathetic. Now that you’re back in the states, things are very different than other countries. If you get ANY opioids at all, then you are extremely fortunate.

I just turned only 29, and have already had 3 back surgeries including a laminectomy from l4- through s1. I’ve been a passenger in 2 car accidents, one was in a taxi in Vegas, and the other was a Lyft in CA. I also have ckd( IGA nephrology) so I cannot take any nsaids.

I was in constant daily debilitating pain and multiple PM docs wouldn’t give me and opiates. When I said what am I supposed to do for pain, they said they didn’t know but cause my age I was too risky to give me any narcotics!

I have my pc doc who is really nice now, but even she only gives me 10, 5 mg percs a month cause supposedly only pm can prescribe narcotics, and also oncologist, and surgeons can prescribe for only up to 2 or 3 months.

I have mri and ct scans, and X-rays that clearly show significant damage to my spine, but doctors just don’t want to take the risk, even if it’s justified because the dea is breathing down their neck. If I asked for four 15s a day I would get laughed out of the office.

 

[juler]

So you just have to deal with the pain and you're so young. Its cruel and sadistic in my opinion. Yes in other countries where I was able to get the 5-6 drs to prescribe quiite a lot , but here in the U,S,, they need to get their shit together for pain management for people who really need it. Believe me all my auto immune conditions are causing spinal damage. The ankylosing spondylitis especially -I've had it too long it affects the lumbar spine region. Your spinal cord degrades and tiny incomplete fractured bones grow---very painful and the PBc eating destroying my bile ducts but the psoriatic arthritis I've had since I was 20 is taking cake in terms of pain-both wrists need surgery--but anyway I am also a very addictive personality--you know enough is never enough. That's why I ended up in rehab at 19-I only drank for 2 years but after the rapes I became an emotional drunk -cutter suicide attempts etc...good thing I didn't have a car---blackout drunk soooo many times. Rehab then did it for me and I have been free of alcohol since and pot. It's the oxys - I feel the pain so I take them but I always take more--you really need find something to improve your quality of life. It sounds like you aren't like me as far as taking too much --maybe there is some doctor in a state close by that could help? Where do you live?

 

[Nurse Ratched]

I hear ya and I feel ya. Caught between a rock and a hard place. Getting a script ( luckily ) just not enough to manage your pain.

You have no choice but to make 60 count 30mg oxy work....somehow . 2 per day....no exceptions. And when you do make exceptions and take more your only choice is to go without or substitute something that won't show up on a mass spec. Choices are limited and almost next to none as poppy pods will show up as well as any other opioid you can access.

Welcome back to the United States drug laws where 5 or 6 different Dr.s prescribing is a thing of the past. Just isn't going to happen. You are now stuck in the land of "take as prescribed or suffer the consequences ( WD's when you run out ) " You just don't have any other options if you want to stay in a pain management contract. I know it sucks.

 

[juler]

I do have unlimited travel and I know 2 of my drs for sure would give me my meds one gives a 2 month supply--I just don't think I could be gone for a day and a half with my son--It's an option though.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

I do have unlimited travel and I know 2 of my drs for sure would give me my meds one gives a 2 month supply--I just don't think I could be gone for a day and a half with my son--It's an option though.

I guess that is an option if you have free travel. If you are willing to fly out of the Country every couple of months to keep your habit going at least you won't go in WD every couple of weeks. Pretty drastic but hey we all do what we have to. Desperate times call for desperate measures.