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Sentience
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You must not be in pain. Immediate relief is something worth while to a lot of people whether it is accomplished by shooting or smoking.
Some opiates come in a form that can be smoked. Smoking pills is generally a stupid idea, but I have been curious about the general process of taking a chemical and turning it into a freebase, not limited to this discussion.
I am not especially interested in shooting pills. I am not really that desperate. I am more just curious than anything....and getting a rig ready is NOT faster than freebasing. Yes, it will hit you faster and harder, but there is a lot of prep work that goes into making a rig and it doesnt stay good. A freebase is more convenient.
Psychedelic Jay
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It's great to plug these if you are not into Injecting things.
lightitup
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What is with everyone saying "oh wtf don't smoke pills". Anyone who smoked oxy knows that you can only smoke the purdue brand, and it slides and trails just like H. It is nasty as hell to smoke any other pill. It is like they made these to be smoked...
But really, people who have been through a phase with smoking it know that Purdue OC40,60, and 80 are very easily freebased. It may be a bit of a waste, but smoking a 10mg chunk feels better then smoking H in my opinion.
But really, people who have been through a phase with smoking it know that Purdue OC40,60, and 80 are very easily freebased. It may be a bit of a waste, but smoking a 10mg chunk feels better then smoking H in my opinion.
Psychedelic Jay
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^There isn't even a need to be freebased.
It can be smoked straight out of the bottle.
I used to make the whole alphabet (one letter on one piece) by doing the foil trails.
It's not smart of course, but it kicked your ass if you wanted a bang without rigging.
It can be smoked straight out of the bottle.
I used to make the whole alphabet (one letter on one piece) by doing the foil trails.
It's not smart of course, but it kicked your ass if you wanted a bang without rigging.
lightitup
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Sorry, yeah I get the "freebased" lingo confused. I was using it as slang for doing foilies.
Sentience
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This is interesting.
Yeah, a lot of people can be snobs. I for one would be very interested in smoking oxy if it wasnt too difficult or too much of a waste.
And I was using "freebase" very loosely. I was referring to any form that vaporizes for smoking or can be carried in the air by something that does.
I think smoking pills is usually a bad idea, but I would try smoking one of the Purdue pills.
After doing a small bit of research there is apparently some really simple tek to make a smokable product from immediate release oxycodone. It wont be much more efficient than just eating it but some people like getting immediate effects without shooting it. Just because most pills dont smoke well doesnt mean that anyone interested is automatically an idiot who doesnt know any better.
Moral Decay
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It's because this is a harm minimalization board, not a get as fucked up as possible board.
Smoking pills that are intended to be taken by mouth is harmful to your lungs PERIOD.
delta_9
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No one said anything about the prep work. Hell, let's say I wanna do some coke. I'd have to contact my source, go get it, shell out the money, go back home, and then I can finally get started with chopping it up and railing it. We all have to deal with this everyday, so don't gimme that shit.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Prepping a rig is not much trouble. And there is no margin for error when I say that prepping a needle is much less work than extracting and basifying oxycodone from pills in order to get a viable material ready for vaporization.
Exactly.
Psychedelic Jay
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^ I see your point, of course tell them it is not "healthy" to do.
But saying that it is not smokable is just outrageous and self-centered towards preference.
There are indeed tons of people who will not take oral pills orally, no matter how shitty it may be not to do. Preference rules all decision making until rational thoughts are made, which if we are getting high, NO ONE IS RATIONAL> PERIOD.
But saying that it is not smokable is just outrageous and self-centered towards preference.
There are indeed tons of people who will not take oral pills orally, no matter how shitty it may be not to do. Preference rules all decision making until rational thoughts are made, which if we are getting high, NO ONE IS RATIONAL> PERIOD.
delta_9
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^I never said it is not smokable, in fact I've said the opposite in this and other threads several times.
I had oxycodone 10mg IR for severe back pain. I was never in so much pain that I couldn't wait 15 minutes for them to kick in. I have also had kidney stone pain, and while it's horrible, I was also able to handle it long enough for oral oxy to kick in. Now if I were in a car crash and just had my knees crushed or something, then yeah, maybe I'd smash up a couple of oxy pills and snort em. Other than that, if you are in chronic pain or even acute pain where you literally can't wait 15 minutes for a pill to kick in, you probably need to be in a hospital with a morphine drip.
I can understand preference. But some things are somewhat objective. Oxy has the highest availability when ingested (possibly plugged). The literature is pretty clear on it. Any other method of intake isn't as efficient as oral when it comes to oxy.
Now hear me out on this: I am not saying there is anything wrong with smoking, injecting or plugging. But if you really want to smoke or inject, why not just bypass the oxy and get H? Choose a drug that has a higher efficiency when smoked or injected.
But again, to each their own.
Psychedelic Jay
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I was stating in general, no directive remarks were made towards you, sorry.
Psychedelic Jay
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That is what I'm saying.
No matter what people say, people are still gonna use drugs inefficiently.
This same trivial question applies to everything.
For this there are still people trying to rail morphine with medium to high tolerances, stereotyping that everything that goes up your nose is higher in bioavailibility.
Inhaling oxy solution through a nebulizer is a completely different thing, I just thought I may add.
Sentience
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I agree that smoking pills isnt a great idea. In fact, I believe that was one of the first things I said in this thread.
Lucky you.
Or what about people who throw up due to a severe inflammatory stomach condition? We cant go to the ER 4 times a day. They dont prescribe rigs for shooting up to pain patients. Patches are an option, but not for breakthrough pain.
Yes, I could just buy some H so that I could smoke it, but then I have to deal with purity and dosage issues on top of legal issues....I have a family to take care of. Its not that I wouldnt smoke some opium if I had it, but my insurance doesnt cover it....I pay $15 a month per prescription and thats what works for me.
I feel like some people can be a little judgmental.
If you could freebase or smoke pure oxycodone in a form that is intended for smoking, that isnt the same as trying to burn pills with bindgers that isnt intended for smoking.....Lets not confuse idiots who smoke Tylenol with people who are interested in legitimate tech to make a smokeale product.
Smoking oxycodone isnt necessarily going to get you more fucked up. Its just going to hit you faster.
I cant speak for the OP or others in this thread, but I was not asking about smoking pills with all the binders in it. I was asking about a better way to make a smokable product from nearly pure oxycodone.
What would be nice maybe is if they had smokeless inhalers with pain medication in it....maybe something like fentayl, or whatever is potent enough to be carried in an spray with relative consistency of dosage. It can go straight to the lungs without having to burn anything and hit you faster than swallowing but without the need for shooting.
Anyway, I thought I made it very clear that I didnt think that smoking pills was a great idea. I was mildly curious about turning pure oxycodone into a smokable product though, assuming that is considered just a preparation method.
Lucky you.
Or what about people who throw up due to a severe inflammatory stomach condition? We cant go to the ER 4 times a day. They dont prescribe rigs for shooting up to pain patients. Patches are an option, but not for breakthrough pain.
Yes, I could just buy some H so that I could smoke it, but then I have to deal with purity and dosage issues on top of legal issues....I have a family to take care of. Its not that I wouldnt smoke some opium if I had it, but my insurance doesnt cover it....I pay $15 a month per prescription and thats what works for me.
I feel like some people can be a little judgmental.
If you could freebase or smoke pure oxycodone in a form that is intended for smoking, that isnt the same as trying to burn pills with bindgers that isnt intended for smoking.....Lets not confuse idiots who smoke Tylenol with people who are interested in legitimate tech to make a smokeale product.
Smoking oxycodone isnt necessarily going to get you more fucked up. Its just going to hit you faster.
I cant speak for the OP or others in this thread, but I was not asking about smoking pills with all the binders in it. I was asking about a better way to make a smokable product from nearly pure oxycodone.
What would be nice maybe is if they had smokeless inhalers with pain medication in it....maybe something like fentayl, or whatever is potent enough to be carried in an spray with relative consistency of dosage. It can go straight to the lungs without having to burn anything and hit you faster than swallowing but without the need for shooting.
Anyway, I thought I made it very clear that I didnt think that smoking pills was a great idea. I was mildly curious about turning pure oxycodone into a smokable product though, assuming that is considered just a preparation method.
You can get Butorphanol in a nasal spray. I am not sure if there are others, but I do agree with what you are saying. It would be nice if there were drugs that were designed to be delivered nasally (legal drugs I mean).
I think I (and some others) do tend to make assumptions when people come here asking how they can smoke/snort/inject oxycodone. Most aren't suffering from degenerative stomach diseases that prevent them from swallowing pills. They just want to get high.
I think I (and some others) do tend to make assumptions when people come here asking how they can smoke/snort/inject oxycodone. Most aren't suffering from degenerative stomach diseases that prevent them from swallowing pills. They just want to get high.
delta_9
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No worries
Not necessarily true. Bioavailabilities differ with ROAs. I honestly don't know the inhalation bioavailability of oxycodone vapor.Sentience said:
This would involve either an acid/base reaction, or the use of various solvents to remove impurities. Then you'd need to examine the melting pt/boiling pt/burning pt of oxycodone freebase and of it's various salts. Though I can tell you off the bat that oxy salts are not volatile.Sentience said:
If you can vaporize 99%+ pure oxycodone base at the correct temperature w/the correct apparatus, the you're good to go from a chemical standpoint. A safety standpoint is another matter
lightitup
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I was in no way trying to cause harm with my posts, but rather try to educate that there are many places in the country that this is common game, and I have seen many people slowly fade with use of those purdues...
It wasn't meant to be a "get fucked up as possible" post, I was only trying to help answer the question. I mean, we talk freely about smoking H, which has nasty cut, and can't be too pretty on your lungs either. I was trying to get across the point that his pills were very unsmokeable, and if anyone were to do this they should do a purdue brand pill.
Is it really much different then someone asking help on whether or not the pill they have is terrible to shoot up? I mean, of course we should always say DON'T INJECT PILLS, and then discuss which ones are SAFER to shoot and why.
It wasn't meant to be a "get fucked up as possible" post, I was only trying to help answer the question. I mean, we talk freely about smoking H, which has nasty cut, and can't be too pretty on your lungs either. I was trying to get across the point that his pills were very unsmokeable, and if anyone were to do this they should do a purdue brand pill.
Is it really much different then someone asking help on whether or not the pill they have is terrible to shoot up? I mean, of course we should always say DON'T INJECT PILLS, and then discuss which ones are SAFER to shoot and why.