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Outgrowing Stimulants?

Carl_Sagan

Carl_Sagan

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Hey guys, after browsing through a couple stim forums I've noticed there seems to be a common trend among the community of posters who have had access to stims (particularly coke or adderall) early on in their drug career who have now moved onto opiates, hallucinogens, etc... and have put their stim habit behind them.

The reasoning seems to often times run along the lines of "the crash became too much"; "the bodyload is to heavy"; "i'm sick of being sketched out and paranoid"; or "im not mentally able to maintain my addy habit".

What is your guys opinion on the lesser stimulants? (coke, adderall, dexedrine, etc...) Did they burn you out? Or are you still going strong?
In my mind meth is a whole different ball game, but feel free to talk about that if you have experience.

I'm starting to get the impression that it really isn't a habit that can be maintained past a couple of years without experiencing serious neurotoxicity or cardiotoxicity issues...

I am an occasional coke user while drinking and i haven't noticed any negative side effects... yet :\
 
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^ good point regarding RC's.
My question is: what specifically was it that made you grow to hate Adderall, yet still enjoy tweaking? More euphoria?
 
Used to love Speed in my early 20s but got fed up of the awful 'come downs' and the depression that came with it.
Not done stims for years now, I enjoy my downers these days.
Maybe it's an age thing the drugs we choose at different stages of life?
 
Yup, i'm thinking that adderall and coke are generally used by those in their late teens/ early twenties and by mid twenties many have moved on or gotten fed up
 
i had a brief love affair with amp/MPH my junior year of high school. i had already been doing opiates but not very often. adderall made school way better but i couldnt stand the fact that after school i felt like shit from tweaking and not eating. nowadays the only stims ill do are those with empathogenic qualities, and ill occiasionally sniff some ritalin if im at a party or something. i know people that have been (ab)using pharmaceutical amphetamines for 3 or 4 years though. my older acquaintances however do not enjoy stimulants, but some have in their younger years.
 
Carl_Sagan said:
^ good point regarding RC's.
My question is: what specifically was it that made you grow to hate Adderall, yet still enjoy tweaking? More euphoria?
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Too tweaky, I get OCD like a bitch on stims and a drug thats made to make you concentrate.. forget that lol. Plus there is almost no euphoria IMO

Also I only take amp pills, have never smoked meth but I might try it once
 
Stims have been my favorite from day 1. 20 now, I still love them. Comedowns really don't bother me. The only downer I like is alcohol.

The only thing that makes come downs off stims "too much" is real life stress. I've had pleasant comedowns, but STRESS is magnified by like 10-fold as you're coming down. If you've got responsibilities to take care of in your life, and you're coming down, it becomes a real hassle.
 
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The only thing that makes come downs off stims "too much" is real life stress. I've had pleasant comedowns, but STRESS is magnified by like 10-fold as you're coming down. If you've got responsibilities to take care of in your life, and you're coming down, it becomes a real hassle.
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yes.
 
The only thing that makes come downs off stims "too much" is real life stress. I've had pleasant comedowns, but STRESS is magnified by like 10-fold as you're coming down. If you've got responsibilities to take care of in your life, and you're coming down, it becomes a real hassle.
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This this this. I have been hit and miss with terrible come downs but I have definitely realised they are usually just shit in your life multiplied. I had a massive weekend on meth over my birthday weekend. Flew out to Fiji a day after and was fine, a lil tired but it was smooth sailing and a great weak.

Then I can have an average weekend of using 2 or 3 nights over a weekend, get to sunday and oh boy. The thought of work, and the regular mundane things that we all hate just seem that much worse.8(

However toward the topic at hand. Im still very young compared to alot of posters so that may offer a different view. Visiting bluelight I have noticed alot of them are downer users. In my 'scene' here in Aus I have never been offered really any form of downer. Its all stims, psychs, oh apart from weed which is a downer. To me, downers dont appeal. My main hang up on weed is that it makes you lethargic, conversationless(most times) and just flat. Whereas stims, I love for the go go go. Socialise. Clean. Party. Bam bam. Maybe its an age thing but I hang around with people from 20-30 in this scene and theyre still going strong and all hate downers. Maybe theyre just still in my mind frame?
 
I think it is because stims are more of a social drug, and a lot of people only use them in groups while out partying. When you grow older, you will likely stop going out all weekend long binging on stims.

There are other drugs (opiates and benzos) that are easier to do if you want to relax, take it easy, and feel good.
 
In my experience, stimulants are the only substances that have ever really honestly and sincerely screwed with my head.

I kicked the amphetamines cold turkey and I felt no real physical discomfort, but it was hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that I could no longer function like superman; what's more, I felt like I had become actually less capable of accomplishing even the simplest tasks.

It was a terrible, terrible experience and my depression became so much more obvious (and difficult to manage). In retrospect, an awful bout of mono might have made things worse and it could be chronic fatigue that I experienced and still experience, but I'll never know... it must have been some culmination of the two that just sent me right down the shitter, unable to function at all for a very, very long time.
 
Alas! I am currently taking adderall recreationally/for school. I started out loving it but now I feel like I am 'out-growing' the high and just don't like the side-effects (Not eating, jaw clenching, paranoid, anxious).
 
Meth just made my breathing hard and I always had to yawn, all day not just when I was tired, anyone have this problem? Or know what I'm saying?
 
I took adderall a few times a week for two years and I gradually went from loving it to hating it. When I take it now I can't eat, can't sleep, and get depressed as shit when I come down. I can't take it without having a benzo. I stopped taking it all summer long and i'm gonna start again soon due too classes (I have ADD). Hopefully, i'll enjoy it more after taking a 3 month long break.
 
i feel like after awhile speed just looses the euphoria and its mainly negative effects you get. I used to love adderol and coke back in highschool. But now I have no desire for that speedy feeling. Don't get me wrong I'm prescribed adderol and still take it on occasion, but thats when I need it. Like when I have to do some bullshit work I don't wanna do and theirs no way I could focus on it, or haven't slept in days and have shit I gotta do while being alert. Speeds awesome at first but quickly looses that euphoria you get when you first start using it. but... I do really enjoy mdma and other phenyls, especially the 2c's that ive tried. But those I consider more of a psychedelic then speed
 
verso said:
an awful bout of mono might have made things worse and it could be chronic fatigue that I experienced and still experience, but I'll never know... it must have been some culmination of the two that just sent me right down the shitter, unable to function at all for a very, very long time.
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I shudder at the thought of dealing with both the amphetamine "withdrawals" and mono at the same time. I have had both, but never at once. It must be like going from superman to below living.

Mono was by far the worst thing I had to cope with. It was like I was incredibly sick, but not sick at all. I continued to live as a normal person during the entire experience.
 
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