out of bupe for first time in 2 years,I fear whats coming

hey folks just checking in,first 4 days I did 600mg dxm on an empty stomache in the morning,basically I was tripping my brains out and could'nt feel a thing,for those whom dxm has no negative effects its a wonderful drug,I had continuous visions of being carried into the sun and it made my body feel full of warmth and content,relived some past events and was able to look at them in a different light.
4 days of dxm is enough for me and my body because you build tolerance quikly to the stuff so today no dxm but 1 shot of mr boston and 10 50mg tramadol to keep the seratonin level over the top,don't work as well as the dxm for obvious reasons(being anestised,sorry can't spell that)is a strong combatant against opiate wd's,all I had to do was think and it was so,I go back to the doctor friday morning so its 4 days left and im surviving without to much pain,oh did want to mention i was mixing one hit of super skunk bud in with the dxm,I do not recomend mixing anything with high doses of dxm unlesss your expirienced with it,I remember one time I did 600mg and did a bunch of kratom and ended up in the mental ward,stay away from stimulants unless you know for shure you can handle it,and as you know pot is a stimulant so exercise caution(don't mean to preach just trying to save someone a really really bad trip if possible).
I'll post tommorow for a report,I hope anyone else going thru the same things may be able to get some relief as I have,just be careful and don't kill yourself
 
I forgot to mention in all this that I am epileptic(not majorly)which is yet another reason for being on opiates,thru the years I have learned how to ward of seizures with a certain train of thought and thus I can do the same with drugs that may cause siezures at high doses,thought that was worth mentioning if anyone is new to the dxm thing,be careful and take it slow till you know your limits,this is a harm reduction site
 
Whoa... Tripping on DXM while in withdraw really doesn't sound like a good time to me... How do you feel after it wears off?

if you ever been in surgery it kinda feels like anestetic wearing off when you come down,but lets say a 300mg dose which is one bottle of gels last for about 8 hours and you can't feel a damn thing,well you can imagine you feel a certain way and then you do,it really is some powerful shit,the one thing you can't do is panic that will send it over the edge,but that come down is real pins and needles kinda feeling like having your legs falling asleep when taking a shit but accompined by a sweaty fever,I slept good but woke up drenched,your body is going thru the wd's but your mind isn't its like being seperated mind from body

please excuse my awful spelling

I think after 10 days of no bupe I can sucessfully cut my dose to 4mg a day and work my way down from there

if you ever been in surgery it kinda feels like anestetic wearing off when you come down,but lets say a 300mg dose which is one bottle of gels last for about 8 hours and you can't feel a damn thing,well you can imagine you feel a certain way and then you do,it really is some powerful shit,the one thing you can't do is panic that will send it over the edge,but that come down is real pins and needles kinda feeling like having your legs falling asleep when taking a shit but accompined by a sweaty fever,I slept good but woke up drenched,your body is going thru the wd's but your mind isn't its like being seperated mind from body
there ain't nothing thats a good time going thru wd's

I wanted to add dxm does wonders for the rls stuff,I've been on gabapentin and lyrica and neither one of those are as good as dxm,I think more research should be done with dxm because it really does work.I'd like to try ketamine but have no idea where to aquire that kinda thing
 
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well todays breif,did 6 50mg tramadol and 2 shots blackberry brandy this morning on an empty stomache and really have felt quite normal all day and evening,very surprised to say the least,2 days left to reup,I really will be able to cut my dose down to 2mg a day after this 10 day abstinence from 32mg a day,I forgot to mention thru all this that I take subutex(white generic ones from walmart)8mg,I'm kinda wondering since these have no naloxone in them that the wd's are not as severe as the orange pills,just a thought
 
The naloxone should have zero effect, but whatever works for you is great :)

Really glad today wasn't too bad <3
 
yeah my plan of action is cutting the dose by 6mg and squirling the rest away at only 1 pill a ay(8mg)
 
I can really appreciate your discipline and ability to approach this in such a smart way (it seems to be working for you). I have no experience in withdrawal of this kind but I definitely admire your determination and strength.

Its a long slow process but once you get through you'll feel like a completely different person.

<3
 
I was on Subutex - not Suboxone for almost 5 years. It's like switching liquor for beer, right? No real help and most doctors don't even know how to properly dose or what it does to you. I was told I'd be a "lifer" after asking to be taken off after one month - at first it was "yes, w/d will be 3 days" but when I complained after my FIRST try, they said it was in my head. I'm not an abuser. 3 foot surgeries, and now arthritis requiring more surgery (joint dead at only 30) - so I jumped off. I was only heading up. And was on it for chronic pain. I did start snorting them b/c I liked it that way and thought w/d would be less. After running out, my OA was found in my foot. I was prescribed VICS and PERCS, bc I think VICS make me moody and hurt my tummy.

Currently on day 8, and last night was my first night w/o sleep. I thought it would get better, b/c it HAS to be outa my system by now. But bad RLS just started...I even rolled from my bed. Haven't cleaned my home or anything wanting to do w/ going outside. Also it's like snowing outside and I can't run on my feet.

The percs work well, and stupidly my new dr wrote me a refill ON THE ORIGINAL hard copy script - and I run out on Thxgiving! YAY! He shoulda known, and when I called the office, he told me basically to change my dosage and to call if I run out. The CVS said he could easily just mail me one, but cannot call it in to CVS.

Well, Morphine is the only thing I KNOW takes the edge off, as I was on it for a prior surgery, but still woke up and no pain relief. So, I'm now on try numero 5, I think. I can see what it's done to me - I start crying all the time, w/d comes in waves, and melatonin ad=nd valerian root DO work very well, but does anyone know when I will feel better? Not to hijack, but to offer my experience to the OP and find answers for me, too.

I am 5'2 and 100 lbs. I heard it stays in fat cells, I don't have many, and during this have lost more.

Any success stories or PM are welcome!

Good Luck to you, too!
 
after those 10 days, don't you think you could go 10 more after you get your script?

Just some food for thought.

You are doing what you thought you'd never be able to handle (going without your meds), and you are doing fine and are still surviving.

To me, hopping back on the full dose 32 mg seems stupid after 10 days of this. Take half your normal dose when you fill your script, and see if you notice the difference. My guess it you will notice, if you know you're taking less. If someone blindfolded you and fed you 16 instead of 32, i don't think you'd be able to tell.
 
going back on a 32 mg a day regimen, after all this, sounds quite foolish, yeah?

I think you of all people have learned by now that bupe works wonders at even lower dosages than 16-8 mgs...
 
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