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Opioids OTC Loperamide for Withdrawal... Amazing

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Loperamide is a miracle drug for the GI symptoms of withdrawal.

Slightly off-topic: I recently had a nasty stomach virus and couldn't keep anything down. I put an Imodium under my tongue to dissolve and found myself moderately sedated/fucked up. I re-tested it when I felt better and the results were the same. Not sure if it's more active sublingually or what, but it was def more than placebo. (Not something I'd do recreationally as it's very dehydrating and "toxic" feeling, but worth it if you're sick).
 
I recently came off using 16mgs of suboxone for 2 and a half years cold turkey!! I used some hydro's and oxymorphone the first few weeks to beat the wd's but didn't want to be back to square one. I had heard about the loperamide thing for wd's and was very skeptical because I tried kratom and it was a joke. I am an army ex Iraqi war vet so pain is something I can tolerate well. Wd's are something I can't do man!! They are horrible. Well anyway I tried loperamide and its is a GODSEND!!!! 100% took my wd's away completely and no cravings!! I couldn't believe it!! I'm in a good mood, energy and zero withdrawals!! Just figured I'd pass the info on
 
I recently came off using 16mgs of suboxone for 2 and a half years cold turkey!! I used some hydro's and oxymorphone the first few weeks to beat the wd's but didn't want to be back to square one. I had heard about the loperamide thing for wd's and was very skeptical because I tried kratom and it was a joke. I am an army ex Iraqi war vet so pain is something I can tolerate well. Wd's are something I can't do man!! They are horrible. Well anyway I tried loperamide and its is a GODSEND!!!! 100% took my wd's away completely and no cravings!! I couldn't believe it!! I'm in a good mood, energy and zero withdrawals!! Just figured I'd pass the info on

You hopped off suboxone at 16mg's without tapering down? What dose of loperamide where you taking and how often?
 
I only tapered down very fast to about 4mg over 1 week or a week and a half. I did some very low dose hydro's for the first 2 weeks and then went straight to loperamide. I'm swearing by it!!! It's been almost a day and a half since I put any opiate in my body( I would be really sick right now usually) and I feel great. I took 40mgs of lope last night around 7pm and slept great last night. I don't think I even needed that much just didn't know. I've got energy and absolutely zero cravings. I took 20mgs a few hours ago and I'm feeling 100%. I was really skeptical about this but I swear I can't believe how amazing it is!! Poor mans methadone is a perfect thing to call it.
 
Ok...Lope DOESN'T cross the BBB unless you use prilosec or black pepper with it.

Comparing lope to bupe is like comparing a wine cooler to vodka.

guess that would explain why i find immodium gives me a high lol i take 20mg prilosec/day, also have black pepper around if i ever wanted to constipate myself for a few weeks.
 
I am just like you are,I have never posted but I feel I need to share my experience with Lopermide helping to ease my withdrawal.I need to tell my history with Methadone first because will show you how well this does work.



One day I was searching for something to make me feel better,some kind of tea or anything because I was already feeling bad from not having a full dose of Methadone that day and I had no Methadone for the next day.So,I knew what was coming and I ran across this site and the Lopermide cure.HEHEHE! I know it is not a cure, but.... I went ahead and tried it.I took 15,2 milligram pills that evening and I swear it made me feel better.It actually kicked in what little methadone that was in me or something.Then I woke up the next day going into full withdrawal and popped 25 pills and lo and behold it stopped the withdrawal,albeit not completely but when you go into such severe withdrawals as I do and you are fully expecting to be sick and then you find something on here that really does work it feels like you have taken a miracle drug. I had to take 25 more that night too.Another thing it did for me was it allowed me to sleep only for 3 or 4 hours but that was a miracle too.

I am not saying it took all my symptoms away because it did not but it stopped them from getting worse and dulled the bad symptoms so much that they did not bother me.It made it so I could easily stand it until I picked up the next day.I wonder if they are doing studies on this to see if it could be made into a form to help people in Methadone withdrawal?They will get rich if they can,believe me it works that well.

Another thing is I can not take it for 2 days at that level because the pills start making me sick.It also does not stop me from using the bathroom at all but it stops the diarrhea that is for sure. I heard people saying that it stopped them from going for a few days.But,maybe because my withdrawal is so bad that is the reason it does not stop me completely.

I could not believe it either when they worked.I started dancing through the house and my husband thought I had lost my mind.I was just happy that something so easily available actually made it so I did not want to die,because that is how I feel the second day into a withdrawal. It really does seem like a miracle drug if it can make one of the nastiest withdrawals tolerable.When you are that sick you welcome anything that can take the severity away just so you can at least sleep.
 
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I have had similar experience with loperamide. Lol, naturally, being long time opiate user and having gone thru cold turkey wd of both opiates n methadone, I know what killer wd is like. I have a mild to moderate habit at the moment, and things were dry recently. I read some archived material about loperamide and was extremely skeptical. "yeah ok, like some diarrhea medicine I've taken before is really going to help with wd". Well I'm eating my words now. That stuff helps more than anything I've ever taken (other than methadone which of course is a full agonist). I never knew it was an opioid or that there are receptors in the body until
I read about it on this site...so thanks fellow BLers!
 
My first post also.... I just have to tell my older hard core friends that this really does work... I used to be on the side of thinking you people on hydro's and pussy drugs etc... don't know shit! Imodium, LMAO! Well, being a hard core dope man and in withdrawals for the 1000s time in 30 yrs, feeling like total dog shit, I said what the hell! Of coarse after reading an idoits post and thinking I needed more than most, I took about a hundred at once... Well to my surprise, the anxiety, diarrhea, nausea, sweats(most) were gone and most important, I could sleep at least 3-4 hrs! I thought, you pig headed son of a bitch, this whole time you could of not been so damn sick! Don't get me wrong, it in noway made me feel high or normal in anyway, but it makes life a lot more bearable thru WD's. You do need to be careful on how much you take, true story, the first time, like I mentioned, I took around a hundred at one time and continued at around 70 a day for a week. Once I went back to my normal dope routine, I actually had WD's from the lopermede, the anxiety part and felt real flushy, I had to do more dope than before! It wasn't like dope WD's, but I swear to you it happened. So I suggest that you let yourself slip into mild WD's and then low dose until you have enough to get you bye. Like anything else, to much is not always better. At this particular moment, I have been taking them for three weeks and feel ok and like I said before, I am a heavy dope user. Believe me brothers and sisters, this shit works!

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yes loperamide is powerful, and nasty.

side effects ("high dose and/or maintenance usage") may include:
severe dehydration and an inability to retain water (similar to a high dose of antihistamines)
complete paralysis of the colon which may lead to megacolon, sepsis, a FECAL TUMOR, or DEATH
PROFOUND effect on tolerance in a much negative fashion (the tethers cut man cuz youre OUT THERE)
debilitating withdrawal symptoms that may last for weeks or longer
renal, respiratory, or MULTIPLE ORGAN FAILURE

by getting high off this stuff means you are primarily bombarding your entire PNS (and especially your colon with GREAT MAGNITUDE) with a dirty synthetic opioid until PGP is completely overwhelmed. using piperine type derivatives does not guarantee any safety with regards to this. several people have died with high serum levels of loperamide consistent with sign of multiple organ failure and sepsis.

keep the dose low and consistency to a minimum.
 
^ Yes I personally wasn't recommending trying it to get high. Merely advocating its ability to remove a majority of the withdrawal IME. The most I took at a time was 14 mg...not some of those crazy 200mg doses. Surprisingly, one does not need a ton of it... Again, I was truly shocked when I tried it n realized I had a great withdrawal aid sitting in my house hiding in plain view , so to speak, lol.
 
yes i understand. there are a lot of people on here though suggesting extreme doses in which several people on these boards and others have had to have surgery and even died. i am not extrapolating any guinea pig data here. it's all based off of actual documented cases.

it is much safer to stick with whatever the abuser has been using rather than to use these massive maintenance doses of loperamide. i just want to save some people the trouble of getting a terrible habit of popping these pills and if they choose to do so, are HOPEFULLY clearing out there colon every several days with a diuretic.

taking 12mg on day 3 of withdrawal is different of course.
 
^ Yes I personally wasn't recommending trying it to get high. Merely advocating its ability to remove a majority of the withdrawal IME. The most I took at a time was 14 mg...not some of those crazy 200mg doses. Surprisingly, one does not need a ton of it... Again, I was truly shocked when I tried it n realized I had a great withdrawal aid sitting in my house hiding in plain view , so to speak, lol.

Been there, done that.

It's not a withdrawal aid at anything above what the data sheet dosage says. You go above that your just prolonging your withdrawal.
 
Lope def helps dt's. I've been using it to cheat em a longtime. Ill give y'all my use background and my lope dt deterrent formula ..
Been a daily opiophile for 5 years and regular for 5 years before that. Usual day for me when I first discovered it was anywhere from 100 mg oxy (bad day) to 500 mg.. ahhh college.. anyways ran outta hillbilly smack andwas in bad shape.. obviously w a habit like that. Was trying to study in my pharmacology book and there it was. Hooks to receptor sites everywhere but where it counts. But said fuck it and fumbled in the cabinet and found a 96 count.. knocked back 50 mg(25 pills) and didn't expect any help really, just desperate. Anyways fell asleep and woke up fine the next morning and took 40 more mg.. and I was floored at how it took away cold sweats, insomnia, most of the shakes, most nausea gone, and all in all, my skin and hair didn't hurt so I knew it did something good. Now you'll still have a little bit of lethargy and I still wanted to get high but I wasn't jonesing anymore.. i just smoked some loud bud and was giggling at the dog for an hour..
 
I've finagled with it for a couple years and it's an easy taper too.. at beginning of dt's I start w 30 mg every 6 hrs for 2 days and then 24 mg every 8 hrs two days then 20 mg every 10 hrs and so on. I've completely tapered down to no opiates in 2 weeks several times without a dt symptom. I smoke bud w it too tho which helps a lot.

That being said I wouldn't reccomend to someone that doesn't take opiates round the clock BC there is the issue of taking a dump. But in my experience someone that has several high doses round the clock a day has a colon used to it and I have no problem dropping one at least one every other day. But there are softeners to help if you need it.
 
I see on previous post that Loperamide was used to reduce the withdrawals of opioids. I’m not sure if this will work with Tramadol.
I also see that they are using 40mg (20xpills) twice per day for about 3-4 days. Is this the lowest dose that will work ?
Can anyone with experience please reply.
Thanks
Popeye
 
At doses between 20mg to 40mg I can notice a good portion of the withdrawal symptoms are significantly lessened in intensity. For me personally, most of the symptoms aren't really fully stopped (other than the shits of course), but the fact that I can be up and about with a better attitude really makes loperamide a great tool if nothing else is available.
 
I've used Loperamide to taper Trams with some satisfactory results. Effective loperamide dose was 32 mg (HS) vs. 250-300 mg [daily] tramadol. Personal experience was loperamide helped crush tram w/d and enabled intermittent periods of deep sleep. This said, everyone does have unique elements to body chemistry. Best advice, proceed with care.
 
it does pass blood-brain barrier and high enough doses of either, or both, could cause dangerous respiratory depression.

several bluelighters have died from a combination of loperamide and another depressant.

keep doses low.
 
So its bad to take a Xanax just at night for sleep while only take 8 immodiom every 7-8 hours hl for a few days then lower it?
 
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