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Opioids Opium Harvesting and Storage question

Gaz_hmmmm

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Right I know Opium poppies don't have furry stalks or leaves. And in my area I've seen plenty around, the little yellow ones (Can't remember the name, but it's not Opium poppy), Corn Poppy or Corn Field Poppy (The red one which is worn on memorial day, also not Opium) and I've noticed alot that definitely are Opium Poppy/Papaver Somniferum.

Now sadly I won't be able to slit them, let the opium latex leak out till morning and then harvest that and then maybe repeat that process. This is unfortunately out of the question.

I have 2 questions :-

#1 - I was wondering would I be best off getting the poppies (cutting them) with as much stalk as possible obviously and then once in a safe place turning them upside down and slitting them heads so gravity helps with the harvest of the opium latex this way. Or would I be best off just getting as much of the stalk as possible, NOT SLITTING THE HEADS, thus leaving the opium in the plant material and then grinding, chopping, liquidising etc them and making poppy tea from them?

#2 - What would be the best way to store these, some of these are 3ft long. Should I just get and then store them in an air tight container in a freezer until 'tea time' or is drying them out like the ones in some flower shops an easy process? If so, how? From pic's I've seen they're just left to hang upside down and dry out but I'd of thought they'd just go moldy and rot?

Thanks in advance!
 
Disclaimer: Don't cut down poppy fields that aren't yours. Not only is it an asshole move, it's illegal to process poppy for opium in UN countries.

The poppies with little yellow flowers are Californian poppies, which are actualy not Papaver spp.

I was wondering would I be best off getting the poppies (cutting them) with as much stalk as possible obviously and then once in a safe place turning them upside down and slitting them heads so gravity helps with the harvest of the opium latex this way.
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That's probably the best method. Then let the remaining stalks dry and you can make tea with whatever's left. Don't try to make poppy tea with fresh poppies or you will seriously regret it. The taste is beyond awful. The yield of opium will be somewhat reduced because you can only slash them once, though.

The best way to store them is freezing them, if you can't dry them right away. If you dry them, do it in a warm oven so you don't give them time to mould. If they're wet and warm poppies will almost certainly grow fuzzy mold on them eventually. Air drying isn't reccomended for this reason.
 
sekio said:
Disclaimer: Don't cut down poppy fields that aren't yours. Not only is it an asshole move, it's illegal to process poppy for opium in UN countries.

The poppies with little yellow flowers are Californian poppies, which are actualy not Papaver spp.



That's probably the best method. Then let the remaining stalks dry and you can make tea with whatever's left. Don't try to make poppy tea with fresh poppies or you will seriously regret it. The taste is beyond awful. The yield of opium will be somewhat reduced because you can only slash them once, though.

The best way to store them is freezing them, if you can't dry them right away. If you dry them, do it in a warm oven so you don't give them time to mould. If they're wet and warm poppies will almost certainly grow fuzzy mold on them eventually. Air drying isn't reccomended for this reason.
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Do you think it's worth slashing them to harvest the opium latex and then making tea with the plant matter or leaving the opium latex in'em and making tea?

I'm on meth' maintenance and if I take morphine to get high I'll normally take 400mg orally (2 small bottles of OraMorph) and that's enough to get me nodding.

Thanks Sekio and thanks in advance for any further replies.
 
Slashing and harvesting followed by making tea. Poppy tea is a special kind of vile, especialy when it's fresh. Having some opium is probably more... palatable. But you'd need a hell of a lot of poppies to get that much morphine... each poppy yields only a trivial amount of opium when it dries out.
 
as people told you, you have 3 options:

-take the "big head wihotut leaves flower" and make a tea

-take the "big head wihotut leaves flower" and extract the morphine

-work the flowers with a sharp knife to extract the fresh opium latex


i can help you with the last option with some pics, even my english is not that good to translate so "technich things" from spanish to english
 
El Barto said:
as people told you, you have 3 options:

-take the "big head wihotut leaves flower" and make a tea

-take the "big head wihotut leaves flower" and extract the morphine

-work the flowers with a sharp knife to extract the fresh opium latex


i can help you with the last option with some pics, even my english is not that good to translate so "technich things" from spanish to english
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Sadly I can't extract the opium latex the proper way, where the plant is still alive in the ground. The plant would be cut so far down the stalk, alright to the ground and then slit and left upside down to let the opium latex come out with the help of gravity not the plant's own strength of pushing the latex out.
 
oh yes, if the plant isnt allive on the ground, opium latex cant be extracted

i´d go for the tea then, unless you have some chemichal knowledge
 
Could you not lightly simmer them in water or some other solvent, filter and evaporate for a kind of pseudo-opium?

I imagine and acid base on this sticky resin would yield some nice goodies. You could acetylate with AA to turn it to heroin.

In fact a Ukrainian guy in rehab described this process to me. It's how they make DIY heroin in Ukraine. They don't bother to extract the morphine though, they just acetylate the resin, add water, filter and shoot.

Not sure what chemical they boil the poppy heads in, his English wasn't perfect. Something like white spirits. I'd say they use this instead of water because it collects less plant fibres.
 
Livinginthealps said:
You can get latex after they are cut down. But, you will only be able to make a few cuts. Much less yield compared to leaving it in the dirt.
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I didnt know that. So, as you say so much less latex production if the plant is not on the ground alive, then the best should be going for a tea?

@Tryptamite: Do you mean the black tar heroin?
 
El Barto said:
@Tryptamite: Do you mean the black tar heroin?
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From what he told me it is like black tar heroin but produced on a small scale, like 1-5 hits,as it is easy and not very time consuming.
However I think black tar heroin is refined opium that is acetylated by refluxing for a few hours with glacial acetic acid where as this is just raw opium cooked with a ml or two acetic anhydride until all the AA evaporates, then water is added to the residue, filtered and injected.

Basically the Ukrainian variant of polish kompot.
 
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yes, it is ( opium acetylated) , i have a few a friend that gave me a bit, ( he is a lucky bastxxx that has opium flowers near his home) , as he told me , he didnt had time to finish it before sending to me ( we made an exchange in fact) , i neds to be half an hour more on 100 degrees ( on the "horno" in the kitchen), ill post a pic if some wanna see that sxit

It can be smoked aswell, i have never IVed nothing , its like the limit i dont want to cross, ill smoke it tomorrow
 
Well the opium I got from the slit heads was next to nothing, by the looks of it some of them I've slashed too deep and the latex has gone back into the pod where the others I just think it was because I'd obviously cut them and wasn't harvesting them proper way.

So it looks like it's gonna be a tea job.

Since they're green pods and from what I've heard (Dried pod tea is fucking rank!) is even more vile then dried' I'll try and reduce the water/concentrate it as much as possible, flavor and then do the only hold me nose and swallow. :\
 
Hi there Trypamine

pics are done but i cant translate from mobile to PC, dont know why, i can send you pics for watsapp and you upload? i know ist weird, but i dont mind if you want, there are two pics, a hellow BL paper and the fresh thing, the black tar and lot of seeds : P

if you want, by private i give you pics by phone and you upload, later i erase your mobile if so..

sorry if it sounds weird, technology-understunding is not mine best thing

PS: wait a minute, i could send it to my gmail : D , so easiest, in some minutes i upload : )
 
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fresh opium latex, black tar and seeds

srry for the weird proposition, tech is clearly not my best hability

when i finish to work the black tar i guess i can do another pic


Since they're green pods and from what I've heard (Dried pod tea is fucking rank!) is even more vile then dried' I'll try and reduce the water/concentrate i
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I agree very much, te tea is stronger than the reduced water concentrate, wich is so soft imho
 
No problem EB. Thanks for doing the pics. So fresh opium on the left, BT in the middle and seeds on the right?

The opium and the black tar look very similar? Is there any difference between the textures/consistency of the two?

I don't know why but I find the idea of homemade heroin very interesting.

Surviving on home bake heroin,
Self sufficiency for the win! :D
 
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