Opioids and Euphoria: Only Once a Day?

[Deretsigernu]

Is euphoria a once a day, first dose thing with non IV'ed opiates or can euphoria be re-achieved, say a few hours later by means of re-dosing? Or does one need to be "straight" prior to opiate use in order to achieve euphoria?

And does anyone have any worthwhile experiences to share in regard to the use of Opana ER?

 

[Chaos Butterfly]

shifting to other drugs.

 

[bingey]

The best rush of the day is the first one , the morning shot

this is because you are usually starting to withdrawal in the morning and because of having slept you have less enzymnes that break down the drug floating around



however if you wait 4-6 hours the second shot will give you smaller rush with a bit less euphoria


so yes and no really

 

[mikemikemike]

You definately need to wait for the first buzz to expire and wait for some pain to set in before you will get as high thats for sure.

 

[phr]

He's not talking about iv'ing so the rush really doesn't matter. You could definitely redose with opiates... But, that tends to just extend the initial high.

For example:
40mg of oxycodone intranasal vs 20mg oxycodone + 20mg oxycodone 4(or even 2) hours later doesn't equal the same amount of euphoria IME.

 

[sonic]

I agree that the first peak of the day is always going to be the best, you often need to re-dose higher to get high multiple times a day making it expensive and inefficient to maintain a constant high over time. Some people just get by, experiencing one high per day and just relaxing the rest of the time taking enough opiates not to get sick.. You are somewhat less addicted if you aren't trying to get high all the time.

 

[Cface]

ah... opana's what i've been (mis)using lately. I gotta say that really the first buzz is the best, unless you dont take any for about 10 hours after doing it first time then you'll get a bit more euphoria than just redosing right after first hit wears off.

BTW, im no opiate pro but a friend tells me if you eat fatty foods and a bit of alcohol 10-20 mins before taking Opana it boosts the BA 10-20%.

off topic: How are you dealing with constipation? I can't fucking find a way to shit... not to be crude... any tips man?

 

[LightTrailz]

A bit of alcohol before opana ... wow thats definatly some bright information .. scratch that .. stupid information ..

as for your constipation try Senekot S .. i find it works pretty good .. if you really , and i mean really want to clear yourself out wait for your dose . take 2 to 4 senekot s tablets 6 hours prior then use a glycerin supp to stimulate your lower colon then gravity does the rest .. you should be good for about 2 or so days before maybe needing to do it again ..

 

[CocksuckerNJ]

yea, i heard about the fatty foods and opana. i'm gonna give it a try next time i do it. that's basically the only painkiller i can get. besides the big H. but whatever. it might be the best of the best. so i should stop complaining.

 

[sunset117]

fatty foods and opana is a must

 

[TorchwoodLabs]

Cheese on toast!!!...

That always kicks it up a notch for me...
Nice thick slices of Cheddar Cheese melted to a point that the oils flow freely gives me a boost even in mid dose.

It don't help with the constipation tho' as cheese is a bit of a bowel binder.

I'm on 2 to 3 x's 30mg Oxycodone 4 times a day, I found that to get a bit of a boost to the buzz, I take the meds in intervals, 1 pill, followed an hour later by another then top up with halves every half hour...

I was in the middle of my dosage build up Sunday afternoon, had the wife make me 3 slices of cheese on toast & started nodding quite nicely.

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Back to constipation:

A couple of forums / places on the net (a search with our friend Google will help you find them) have 'Fruit Spread' recipes..
I mix up a batch every weekend, one to two teaspoons daily & your better than good to go.
The first few days / times you use these fruit spreads (& I suggest just eating it off the spoon) you better not plan on going anywhere to far away from a bathroom.
I'm not kidding, having tried many methods without sucsess, I started on the fruit spreads, made the mistake on taking a 130 mile car trip...
Wasn't the smartest move I have ever made in my life...

Anyways, look up all the 'fruit spread' natural laxative recipes, note down all the ingridients from each, then create your own version by combining items that you can stomach... (I can't deal with prunes, soI leave them out & substitute with another from another recipe)

I have also found that using Sacherin as a sweetner in the paste / spread gives it a little more 'ooomph'.

The most common misconception with opoid constipation is that any OTC laxative / stool softner will do...
When you understand how opiates make you constipated, you will understand why OTCs (99% of the) are of no use at all.

The key to dealing with this is to attempt to keep a regular 'movement' regieme, if you go off of the 'regular', then make up for it by having a tad more of the paste / spread.
Otherwise you might end up having to have a 'manual' performed on you (or doing it yourself) which is rather unpleasant & the doctor or nurse usually refuse to kiss n' cuddle afterwards. :-(


Once you become regular, you might want to concider using Acidopholis on a regular basis, it replaces the natural bacterias (fauna) in your system & aids the whol process...

You cannot rely on acidopholis alone and it's a waste if you havn't started to become 'regular'.

One last thing / tip:
When you buy acidopholis from any healthfood store, make sure it comes from a fridge & store it at home in a fridge...
Non-refridgerated acidopholis is a total waste of time.


Hope these words have helped.

 

[girliegrrl26]

If you are going to be taking it daily, start taking a dose of Miralax daily. Seems to keep things "regular"

 

[girliegrrl26]

Scratch my last one, I'm gonna try this fruit spread thing!

 

[Mr Blonde]

The most common misconception with opoid constipation is that any OTC laxative / stool softner will do...
When you understand how opiates make you constipated, you will understand why OTCs (99% of the) are of no use at all.

Could you expand on this? They bind to opioid receptors in the gut causing slowed motility and thus too much moisture abosrbed from the faeces. Slowed motility is one of the most common causes of constipation; why wouldn't most common OTC solutions work then?

I like the sound of your fruit spread though, and in my opinion it is better to keep a good diet high in the substances that will promote motility rather then to rely on laxatives.

 

[PillPoppingAnimal]

mrblonde...idk the scientific sayings, but, opiods pretty much permintly constipate u til the oopoids are gone thats why nothing will work, and why wo8uold u even want to take a dump if ur high on painkillers

 

[4EverTweakin]

off topic: How are you dealing with constipation? I can't fucking find a way to shit... not to be crude... any tips man?

Dulcolax. It worked wonders for me. It's not a laxitive, but a stool softener.

That may have already been suggested, I didn't read any responses.

Edit: Upon reading, I saw some people suggesting laxitives. I very well could be wrong, seeing how I'm uneducated on the matter, but I have been told by several doctors that, stool softeners are the way to go. You aren't actually constipated. You're dehydrated.

 

[vonchampz]

On constipation: Mineral Oil works for me. But about the fatty foods.... Is there a biological basis as to why fatty foods would potentiate opioids??

 

[malfunkshun]

when I used to do a lot of poppy seed tea, I would usually last a good 4 hours at peak euphoria and then another 4 hours feeling good. If I dosed again after 6 hours of the first dose, I could usually get the same level of euphoria again.

Here is what I used to do a lot: get up and go get some seeds early in the morning. Shake up a good batch and get really high. Re-dose after about 6 hours. I'd usually stay up all night if I re-dosed, pst would keep me awake. Then, about 24 hours after the first dose, (18 after the second) I'd do another full dose. This would keep me going good the next day all day. However, if I tried to dose THREE times, say on the third day early in the morning, 48 hours after the first dose, then it would be a bust and I wouldn't get high at all. I would HAVE to get some sleep before I could get high again.