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Opiates Suck... This is Tough

TryingToGetBetter

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Hello Everyone,

I'm 26 years old and what most would consider a pretty normal guy. I enjoy life, but unfortunately I haven't had much of one for the past 4 years or so. After graduating from college at the age of 22 in 2009, I moved back in with my parents because the job market was shit. I had a handful of friends I went to high school there with and, unfortunately, they had discovered the "wonderful" creation of what we know as opiates. They gave me my first lortab and that was it. The emptiness I had been feeling because I couldn't find a job, the lack of all the friends I had made in school, the boredom of living at home with my parents feeling like a failure... it all went away. I loved it. It filled my soul.

Anything I could get my hands on for the past 4 years I have... percoset, lortab, roxis, oxy, op oxy, etc... I've never shot heroine and please do not think I am judging anyone that has, I'm NOT. I was just terrified of the thought of injecting something into my veins that I had no idea where it came from.

This is my 4th or 5th time detoxing with the ultimate goal of quitting. I've been through and completed rehab with flying colors, but the day I got out...? I had a roxi up my nose within hours. To this day, I'm still not sure why. The same thing with NA, which I've gone to countless meetings and met some really great people. I can't handle the "woe is me" sob stories every session though. It gets really old hearing 90% negativity. It's like some of these people are PISSED they're clean and sober, it makes no sense. I relapsed again.

Today is my 5th day of sobriety after I'd say a year and a half straight of using. I'd say the past 6 months I've been consistently abusing between 60 to 120 mg of lortab per day. Weekends the dosage went up. I never used to use at work, but the past few months it started creeping into that part of my life too. I woke up last Thursday and told myself I was done. I am done with literally overdrafting my bank account every week by hundreds of dollars to get my fix. I'd buy 40 lortabs and if I could make them last 5 days it was a miracle. I'm done letting these things run my life and make me numb to the people I love. I'm tired of not being able to gain weight, and having horrible mood swings.

I live with my girlfriend. I love her dearly and would do anything for her. This though... this is for me. I told her and my parents. They are all supporting me, again, and it's awesome. She kept me on the Thomas Recipe for the first 3 days and while I had my doubts, that shit was amazing. Least painful withdrawals of my life. I am currently taking clonidine and xanax when needed, along with L-Tyrosine for energy and of course loperamide for the monsters beating the shit out of my stomach every day. I'm a big fan of the cannabis, so need I say more...?

I know there isn't a one size fits all method here, and it's only been 5 days after more or less 4 years of abuse... I just want to know when I'll start feeling "normal" again. The urges suck, but I have a slew of people both ex-addicts and non-addicts that talk me through them. The thing I hate is that big emptiness I felt years ago before taking these things feels like it's back. Nothing seems fun. Nothing holds my interest.

If anyone has any words of encouragement, advice, or just positive things they would like to share, I would sincerely appreciate it. I know that being an addict doesn't make me a bad person, and you are all great people for being here right now at this moment. Whether you are using and trying to find a way to quit, or supporting those like me, you are truly a blessing from God. Day 6 tomorrow, one day at a time right?

- TryingToGetBetter <3
 
Welcome to Blielight, TryingTGetBetter!

I too am taking a break from drugs. Opiates, dextromethorphan, cannabis and alcohol were my favorites.

The reason I chose to stay sober is to appreciate life for it is, not the drug-induced delusion. A test of strength and character. I'm currently 40 hours sobers and enjoying every minute of it! Being with friends, listening to music, watching tv, exercising and researching medical items of interest. Also made the choice to return to highschool.

Why do you want to be sober? :)
 
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Tryingtogetbetter, You're not alone. I can certainly relate and it's good that you have the support of your girlfriend and parents. I had been to rehab a few times and just like you I got home and did some oxy right away. The only way I finally quit was on my own and I had no comfort meds, not even loperamide but I got through it. I heard the Thomas method works great and will keep your symptoms minimal.

You also mentioned negativity at NA meetings. Every home group is different, I've been to several and if you don't click with people it's good to move on. Actually my last group was AA and I felt so at home with them. You may not even need a support group but it's good to know they are there if you have the urge to relapse. I'm glad you found us, welcome to Bluelight! <3
 
Thanks so much cuhpcakes. I'm proud of your progress, and your decision to return to school. I share your thoughts on why sober living is the way to go.

My senses are getting clearer, every breath I take feels fresh and new. I am choosing to live sober and face my addiction because I want to live life uninhibited. I want to experience true pain, love, joy... I don't want to be numb anymore. I want to help those in need, I want to be a father for my girlfriends children as he walked out on them. They love me and I've already taught them so much.

I'm going to win this time because life is too damn good. Let's not waste away, let's enjoy this experience together. I appreciate you more than you know. Thank you. Day 6 today, let's keep it moving.

T,
Powerful stuff my friend, THANK you. It's impressive you faced detox head on and made it over the hump. It's also nice to know that you shared similar experiences with rehab. It's my opinion that some counselors begin following scripts as they see the same faces in the revolving door of addiction.

I agree with you on NA. I think it's a key part to recovery and continued the. I just need to find the right one.

Staying away will never be easy, but it gets easier every day. I'm thankful for you, cuhpcake, my friends and my family. You guys rock.
 
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Good luck! You can do this, I know you can! The only time you lose is when you give up on sobriety. It doesn't matter how any times you fall, it only matters how many times you get back up. You definitely need to change your environment. I really suggest getting back into old hobbies like maybe working out and playing sports, music , arts, ect... Also having sober people around me is a big part of my sobriety.

You got this man, you are strong, don't give up on yourself
 
laCster,
Great input, thanks for the support. I agree, I have to change people places and things. People and places I'm doing great with, things come a bit more difficult.

So far, I've been throwing the football and baseball with my girlfriends kids, helping them with homework, etc... I'd love to get back into golf, but I have to let my money build up a bit and I'm a wuss in cold weather :). I've been thinking about getting back into art and drawing... I'm no Picasso but I'm better than stick figures haha.

Your words of encouragement are huge man. Thank you for being a light to someone who needs it.
 
Keep in mind feeling depressed or angry is normal when quitting cold turkey. You may feel sensations of dysphoria but these feelings will pass.

Continue to keep yourself busy and stay positive.

If you ever feel the need to express what you're going through do not ever hesitate to share. Positives and negatives. We'll do our best to turn that frown upside down.

Keep it up! :)
 
Depression and anger are such a big part with my recovery. You're right cakes, the dysphoria and haziness comes on pretty strong sometimes but it does pass. And as with the dysphoria, depression and anger shall pass as well.

I've really been trying to focus on the positives of everything. Life has its ups and downs, and what I feel like I'm coming to realize is that those ups and downs are magnified by opiates. You would think that the numbing effects would cancel that out, but I believe they make everything seem worse.

Today was my 6th day of not using, and I feel so empowered from it. I have successfully made it through 3 days of a somewhat stressful work environment while detoxing. I got through the days by giving myself small challenges to accomplish. Once I accomplished one thing, I took a few minutes break, and set another goal/challenge.

I seem to have the urges the worse around lunchtime and between 5 and 7 PM (I would pop 2-3 lortabs after work every day like clockwork). Today at lunch, I went to a local gun store / shooting range and went through about 30 rounds with 3 different .40 cals. It felt phenomenal to get some of that aggression and anger out.

Cakes, I will continue to post here. It's one of the best decisions I ever made with regards to continued sobriety. Please do the same. I will do everything in my power to help you get through the hard times, and laugh and smile with you in sharing in the good times.

You are all fantastic people. I am very blessed.

Day 6 is coming to a close, I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings.
 
Just wanted to wish you luck man. I'll be keeping on eye on this thread, I'm jealous of you! You're prob nearing the end of the really awful shit and I'm still a couple days behind you.

Hang tough man! You got this!
 
I really appreciate the support buddy. I'll be visiting your thread on a daily basis as well. I read through all of your posts. Your highs and your lows. Try and force any negativity out of your mind. You were just warming up to quit for good, and you've got it this time.

I KNOW you want this just as much as I do. It's really going to be something a month from now when we can congratulate each other on our progress, although one day at a time should be the focus (you know this already I know :) ). Thank you... sincerely... Thank you for the support. I hope one day I'll have the chance to be a great father like you. Remember my man, we are LIONS. Let's kick this shit to the curb and enjoy life for what it is. The world needs people like us.
 
This morning starts day 7. I'm so proud of myself for my progress, but this morning I find myself in somewhat of a funk. I'm here at work and just lacking motivation to get started on anything really. Will try to vocalize any urges today, I have a feeling it will be a challenging day. Who knows, maybe it will improve as it goes on. God please keep me strong and focused.
 
First off congratulations for staying clean!!! I think hat's important when you detox is to have goals and projects after the detox, because as you said the drugs fill a "void", take away the drugs the void comes back, to fill this void. At first the staying clean and sober is a project by itself that you can focus on, but as time goes on you may need something new and concrete, a few things off the top of my head would be: sport, an intellectually challenging project (professional or personal), spirituality/meditation... there are many more, but it's essential IME to plan what you are going to fill that empty space with.
 
Thank you for your advice and the congratulations. This forum is helping me tremendously because of kind caring people like yourself.

I'm thinking of getting goals together for when the weather warms up a little bit. I'd like to coach the,and more importantly I really want to volunteer to kids with special needs or who don't have any kind of mentor.

I always help myself by helping others.
 
Thank you for your advice and the congratulations. This forum is helping me tremendously because of kind caring people like yourself.

I'm thinking of getting goals together for when the weather warms up a little bit. I'd like to coach the,and more importantly I really want to volunteer to kids with special needs or who don't have any kind of mentor.

I always help myself by helping others.

How you feeling man? Did the urge to use get better as the day went on? Fuck I hope it did partner. Just wanted to drop a note on your thread, still grinding here with you.

Great to hear you're wanting to work with kids, that's awesome. My wife is working on her Master's in ECE. She loves kids, me personally, I would rather choke myself than work with em all day lol. I could see myself maybe coaching some older kids though but man, my two kids are enough! By hey, it's a good thing we have people like you and her around eh?

Anyway, stay strong man. I am right here with you.
 
What up brotha? Thanks for dropping a line. I'm at the park walking right now and it's helping with the urges. I just have this fucking cloud of depression around me... I will dissipate eventually I know it will.

Yeah coaching older kids would be the goal haha I'm with you. Your wife sounds awesome man. She's lucky to have a husband with a strong head and balls of steel haha.

So damn proud of your progress. Day 4 ain't got shit on you.

How's your day going?
 
What up brotha? Thanks for dropping a line. I'm at the park walking right now and it's helping with the urges. I just have this fucking cloud of depression around me... I will dissipate eventually I know it will.

Yeah coaching older kids would be the goal haha I'm with you. Your wife sounds awesome man. She's lucky to have a husband with a strong head and balls of steel haha.

So damn proud of your progress. Day 4 ain't got shit on you.

How's your day going?

Days going okay man! I feel stronger than I did yesterday, mentally anyway. I need to get through today and I know I'll turn that slow corner on Day 5.

I hear you on the depression, that shit is fucking rough. Really makes me feel for the people that suffer that dark hole day in and day out.

We got this dude. You're just fighting the mental, and you know you're stronger than this bullshit. Let's get our fucking lives back man. I'm a little older than you, but we're in our 20's. We're fucking kids man. Let's get the fuck out and get on with our lives before we lose more years to this.
 
We got this dude. You're just fighting the mental, and you know you're stronger than this bullshit. Let's get our fucking lives back man. I'm a little older than you, but we're in our 20's. We're fucking kids man. Let's get the fuck out and get on with our lives before we lose more years to this.

Fucking right man. That just made a world of difference for me. Thank you dude. Thank you so much. I feel empowered now, depression is leaking away.
 
Hey! Got through day 7 so my first week is down, thankfully. On day 8 today and let me tell you, it hasn't been easy. I have actual cravings at this point, but it's because I did some heavy lifting today at work and my back is all fucked. I'll get through it, but some days sure are different from others eh?

Still going strong man. I hope you are doing well on you day 5?
 
One week down, well done!

Your inbox is full man, can't message you.

Be sure to keep your inbox and "Sent Items" clear so you can recieve and send more mail.

Sorry to hear about your back bro, I hope you get better soon.

Remember drugs won't solves your problems, they just help you firget about them for a limited time causing more complications.

You're my inspiration for staying clean, please keep up your great life. :)
 
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