mydrugbuddy
Bluelighter
i dont know marmalade. I tend to lack any ideas, energy, or any initiative at all when im in opiate w/d.
I'll look into that Inflorenscence.
I'll look into that Inflorenscence.
i dont know marmalade. I tend to lack any ideas, energy, or any initiative at all when im in opiate w/d.
yes thats what i am looking into at the minute just waiting on the doctor to get back to me on itDoes anyone ever get offered CBT for withdrawal just out of interest. A lot of that stuff like keeping mood/trigger/situation diary helps alot of people..
So what's the logical conclusion or direction to take from that admission?
make plans before hand ?
Cheers Inf.
For me it 's quite personal actually to hear someone moan n bitch from the comfort of there living room with out even a baby habit let alone 20 years on the fukin Heroin n fuk no what else n the KIcin the teeth is all those friends that died they had no computers or support
The Main Thing that is really emotionally tearing me up is the Death Of My EX Partner n she wanted to get clean n fulkin did it , ONE LOVE
My situation is not comparable to Mugz's at this stage Knock. I am not taking reckless doses and things like that, but maybe the thing about not taking in properly what people are saying, or somehow choosing to disregard it, and then pissing them off as a result, so that the forum eventually becomes a hostile place to come to, rather than a place for support could happen if i carry on like this much longer. Im not disregarding peoples advice to piss them off and wind them up, im disregarding it because i havent yet found a way to hold out at the end.
re: bolded. I think that's WAY out of context in terms of reality in regards to mugz's situation.
And you know I don't believe in the tough love approach, but I think he's a bad example to make that comment about tbh.
Kenny, you're picking up on a post made in the first half of 2013. MDB had been using o-desmethyltramadol for at least a year prior to using AH7921, maybe longer. And he's had a fair old poppy pod habit as well. He has described that opioids relieve what he experiences as a mental illness.
Knock, he may well have been experimenting with ODT and pods prior to the AH-7921, but he didn't have a physical habit. This is documented in posts from the time, which I'm not going to drag up, out of respect for MDB. This is what Kenny's getting at.
As for the part about taking opioids to relieve mental health problems, MDB's own posts demonstrate the fact that the professionals working with him believe he needs to work on his drug issues before any valuable diagnosis / treatment can be made (that's the way it works - I know all too well) and in the meantime are offering counselling (which he appears to be utilising well) and antidepressants, which he is taking irregularly and combining with non-prescription drugs, some of which no doubt negate the antidepressant's impact.
kenny said:it seems like you basically artificially created your issues with opiates/opiods. I mean it feels like you looked for it, you willingly developed an addiction that wasn't there to beging with
MDB's self-prescribing is leading him into a world of trouble. Worse still, it's wreaking havoc with his mental state. The apathy and lack of inspiration he describes are typical effects of too many drugs. The 'cure' is the fucking disease!
Do you see where Kenny's coming from? I know you don't mean to advocate MDB's drug as such, but it can appear ambiguous at times.
experimenting with pods? MDB reported taking quantities of poppy pods that would probably kill me. And he ate the pod straw after drinking his brew. I'm afraid I will need to go back to those posts to understand what you're saying because the impression I had is that MDB certainly had a level of opiate/opioid tolerance that is not consistent with not having a "physical habit".
knock said:The self-prescribed 'cure' is certainly not sustainable but if we are to believe MDB, and we have no reason not to, there is another pre-existing disease or condition.
this ain't tough love from me n has nowt to do with Matins Polydrug habits .
For me it 's quite personal actually to hear someone moan n bitch from the comfort of there living room with out even a baby habit let alone 20 years on the fukin Heroin n fuk no what else n the KIcin the teeth is all those friends that died they had no computers or support
The Main Thing that is really emotionally tearing me up is the Death Of My EX Partner n she wanted to get clean n fulkin did it , ONE LOVE
Does anyone ever get offered CBT for withdrawal just out of interest. A lot of that stuff like keeping mood/trigger/situation diary helps alot of people..
Thanks for bringing that embarassing thread up Sam, it was too embarrasing to read past post number 1. Its kind of besides the point as to whether or not i was addicted to pods 2 years or go or not anyway ?
Tolerance varies wildly from person to person, as does the way they metabolise opioids. Especially the ones in pods. Not to mention the alkaloids in pods themselves.
High pod tolerance does not an addict make. Ask Issy.
Here's a thread where MDB clearly states he isn't addicted. Delete as necessary: *deleted*
It ain't pretty, but he declares MDPV to be his only real problem. Benzos possibly figured heavily.
Yes because MDB hadn't had any poppies that day.
And I've only just read that because I'm only just logging on to the forum. If things don't get done immediately, sometimes it's because I'm having a shit or something.In this case I was in bed. Earlier than usual. It's gradually improving.
its ok, was just a bit embarrasing thats all. No problem now its gone.![]()