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Olympics - Beijing 2008

Depends entirely on the league.

Not to mention the fact that every sport conceivable is currently having a problem with drugs. People are using performance enhancing supplements in EVERY sport.

Oh and "juicing" is really becoming a problem that there will be no containing. Technology is simply advancing way too fast. Where is the line drawn on juicing? Obviously anabolic substances are banned. Most stimulants are banned. A lot of diuretics are banned. HGH is untestable. Many MANY peptides are now being released which cause an increase in recovery capacity, strength, endurance. All of these are so new as to be completely untestable. Myostatin inhibitors are going to be next if they aren't out there already. Red blood cell boosters are banned but yet training at high elevation or in oxygen deprivation to achieve the same results is not. How far away is genetic modification/engineering? We already have the science on hand to prevent growth plates from fusing so we can get freakishly tall people at will.

Really we are on an incredibly slippery slope here. At least 90% of competitive sports are seeing competitors using some kind of either blatantly illegal/banned substances to gain an edge or using every conceivable alternative. When you have athletes jumping from substance to substance simply to stay ahead of the bans but putting their health at an even greater risk because they are basically becoming guinea pigs for these compounds.. who are we really saving here by banning anything? And where will it even end? Eventually it will be too costly (it already is for most leagues) to test for all the available banned substances. What then? Polygraphs? Those are flawed and unreliable. And how do you test for genetic engineering? How do you prove somebody's genetics have been tampered with? Isn't the fact that one person is born with the genetics for more fast twitch muscles than another person an unfair advantage now that we see that those genetics are modifiable?
 
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I agree with the "no containing" part.

I still have to vote no, primarily because I hate games where judges determine who wins by subjective evaluation (even if I watch them, as I have with gymnastics)
 
If one of the bodybuilding professions represented a difference btw female/male (?) bikini contests verses that of bodybuilding on a basic level, then maybe ok it's an argument. I dont see it.
 
Bodybuilding isn't a sport.

But to get back on topic, I just happened to be watching the Olympics tonight and swimming was on. Normally I don't give a shit about swimming but, it was absolutely great seeing the US 4x100 freestyle team beat the French. Especially because the Frog who said that they were going to crush the Americans is the one who gave up a big lead to lose the race for them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
 
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Bodybuilding isn't a sport.

But to get back on topic, I just happened to be watching the Olympics tonight and swimming was on. Normally I don't give a shit about swimming but, it was absolutely great seeing the US 4x100 freestyle team beat the French. Especially because the Frog who said that they were going to crush the Americans is the one who gave up a big lead to lose the race for them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Yeah it was a great race. I find swimming to be the most interesting event in the Summer Olympics, but that's probably because I'm a swimmer myself.
 
If you want to have debate about bodybuilding as a sport, then start your own thread about it.

Can we get back on to the topic of the Olympics now?

Thanks.
 
Why can't we talk about bodybuilding / sports / and the Olympics? Seems like a perfectly legit thing to talk about here.

What's the difference between critiquing a synchronized swimming contest, a high dive, or an ice skating performance vs. a bodybuilding routine? Nothing. All are completely 100% subjectively judged. The scores are based on preference and agreed upon standards.

Also there are clearly huge differences between a beauty contest and bodybuilding. Do you know how hard it is to maintain a full body pump and go through a posing routine? Do you know how hard those flexing poses are? No you have no idea. Trust me it feels like you are about to pass out on the floor. It is incredibly difficult and physically taxing. It is a workout in and of itself. Those guys train years and years and years and go on stage in peak condition and do some of the most difficult/exhausting posing imaginable and you ask what the difference is between that and a beauty contest? Give me a break. Yes symmetry, size, conditioning are all aspects and would all be in the "beauty show" category but the difficulty of posing is something you can't really understand until you try it.

There are many many "sports" where there isn't a clear winner based on something quantifiable such as time, weight, points scored, etc. There are sports based on aesthetics and bodybuilding is one of them.

Just because you don't "think" it is a sport doesn't make any less of one.
 
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As for the Olympics I want to see Phelps get 8 golds. That would be outstanding.
 
Mostly because this thread was going along fine talking about THE OLYMPICS... you know, the ones THAT ARE GOING ON NOW... without bodybuilding. I think it is much more pertinent to talk about what is happening now. In BEIJING. Like the title of the thread says.

As I said, if you want a thread specifically about body-building and it's sport or non-sport status, or it's olympic status, do it in it's own thread. Don't derail what is a good thread with stuff that is only barely topical.

CB.
 
Ok, I'll let the ridiculous bodybuilding debate rest.

The men's 4x100 was an amazing race to watch. I rarely yell at the TV and I caught myself doing so. It was the best relay I've ever seen and I've been in the swimming business for a long time. :)
 
Bloody hell..

Bodybuilding is a sport, but I do not think it is worthy of being an olympic event
 
The men's relay was AWESOME LAST NIGHT. I'm really not a swimming fan but i decided to watch it. And when they were on the last leg and suddenly the American (i forget his name) passes the french by just miliseconds it was so beautiful!!!!

The look on Micheal phelps face was priceless when he saw they won. I actually got goosebumps. The world record was smashed by 4 seconds. Amazing.

I'm just waiting for the womans basket ball... I can't find when US is playing again. The internet is all wrong with the TV schedule, it's ridiculous. I just find different sport randomly on like 4 different channels.

But yea the men's 400 relay last night was one of the best I've seen. I'm so glad i was able to witness it.

RPG
 
A little something for you true Patriots; I give you the Summer 2008 Beijing Olympics Drinking Game.



---Chinese Culture---

The Olympics are referred to as China’s/Beijing’s “coming-out party.”

A TV announcer refers to China’s “rising middle class.”

Bonus drink: If the rising middle class is referred to as “the awakening of the Chinese dragon.”

A TV announcer refers to the fact that the Chinese frequent fast food or coffee chains, “just like us!”

A TV announcer mentions the fact that the Chinese eat all sorts of crazy things, including dog leg, donkey meat, scorpion kebab, and yak penis, pretending to be because he wants to show that Chinese culture is different than ours, but really just to use the phrase “yak penis.”

The camera shows a Chinese guard riding on a Segway.

The camera shows a Chinese guard riding on a Segway on his way to brutally assault a bunch of pro-Tibet dissidents—five drinks!

An announcer mentions the intense Beijing air pollution.

The final heat of a competition featuring an American and a Chinese Olympian is billed as “a showdown between East and West.”

Alternate: “Yin meets yang...right after this commercial break!”

---Swimming / Michael Phelps---

A commentator mentions Michael Phelps’ hyperflexible size-14 feet, or his build, speed, agility, power, etc.

A commentator refers to how it takes Michael Phelps 20 minutes to squeeze into his Speedo LZR bodysuit.

A commentator mentions the controversy surrounding the Speedo LZR.

Michael Phelps is used in an NBC Olympics trailer/teaser.

Teenage girls are shown giggling while watching Michael Phelps (commercials count).

Someone from Team USA yells/screams in victory over an inferior country (that means any country).


---Cliché Phrases –

An announcer/commentator utters any of the following phrases:---
1) “Everyone in the stadium was a winner today.” (Or its inverse: “There are no losers here.”)

2) “This is what the Olympics are all about.”

3) “[Random obscure athlete who competes in an event you don’t care about] will remember this day for the rest of his life."

4) “[As athletes from rival countries shake hands after a match] This is truly what the Olympic Games are all about.”

5) “[He/she] has prepared [his/her] whole life for just this one moment.”

---Olympian Feats (Double drinks if it’s someone from Team USA—America fucking rocks!)---

A final (medal-awarding) race, event, match, etc. begins.

A world record or Olympic record is broken.
Bonus drink if it’s Michael Phelps!
Someone else breaks a record set by Michael Phelps.

The Chinese win any race, event, match, etc.


---Olympian Errors (Double drinks if it’s someone from Team USA—what shame!)---

A gymnast falls or goes out of bounds during their routine.

A swimmer crosses into someone else’s lane.

A swimmer goes in the water before the starting tone.

A volleyball player gets a spike to the head, eats sand, or gets hurt otherwise.

A volleyball player suffers a “wardrobe malfunction” – Drink five and cheer!

An Olympian’s injury or use of a banned substance results in them dropping out of the competition.
 
no he meant chink. its a word.

chink 1 (chngk)
n.
A narrow opening, such as a crack or fissure.
 
Yeah, I must admit that the mens 4x100 freestyle final was amazing.

I thought the French had it for all money... what an amazing swim by the Americans!

I gotta admit I was really backing anyone else except for the US, just coz the more medals the US doesn't win, means that the Aussies get closer to beating them all up in the swimming ;) (not that it's gonna happen... and I kinda do want Michael Phelps to get his 8 golds...)

I think Synchronised Swimming should be re-named to Synchronised Drowning, and the medal awarded to the team who manages to have the most of its members technically die, and then get re-suscitated (sp?) on the sidelines!

CB ;)
 
Michael Phelps will probably go down as the greatest Olympian ever, in any sport. And he probably has at least two more games to go. All the events that he has competed in so far have resulted in a gold medal and a WR. Dude is crazy good.
 
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