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squarerootof23 said:
Too late - I am already frustrated! :!

Thanks for the support, DirtyMexican. I've never been to Mexico, we've often talked of going there, sounds like maybe I should really consider it!

I've been doing some searching, there are music festivals in my area this summer - Country Western, Square Dance, European Folk Dance, etc. - I'm thinking those are not the kind of festivals I should be considering, huh?
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http://www.metrowize.com/2011-music-festivals-guide
 
squarerootof23 said:
Too late - I am already frustrated! :!

Thanks for the support, DirtyMexican. I've never been to Mexico, we've often talked of going there, sounds like maybe I should really consider it!

I've been doing some searching, there are music festivals in my area this summer - Country Western, Square Dance, European Folk Dance, etc. - I'm thinking those are not the kind of festivals I should be considering, huh?
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What part of the world are you in? You ca go over to the events section to see if anything is listed in your area.
 
jamaica0535 said:
Check out the burner scene.

Its a lot of people from every kind of group, it ranges from children to old heads...

My first burn event was one of the greatest weekends of my life.
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Agreed, my mom's 42, she went to an event called burn in the forest- basically like a mini Burning Man but in Vancouver- and met lots of ravers around her age that she can roll with. I've gone to raves with her before, she's chill with it, but she gets kinda concerned.. I mean, some people would think it's strange for a mother to roll with her daughter.. but hey, at least she's there to make sure I'm not doing anything stupid.
 
I'm of a similar age squareroot. I'm hardly new to the scene, but most of my friends have long since given up. So I'm now slowly having to search out a new social circle. I have to say, the revelation came with discovering the psytrance scene. Some fantastic people there of all ages. I just kick myself for not getting into it earlier. Sure, some of the music is not perfect, but the vibe certainly is. I got talking to some 45 year old guy that had come down on his own, and by the end of the night there were 8 of us chatting away with ages from 20 to 50. No barriers at all and so a great place to meet like minded souls.
 
squarerootof23 said:
Thanks oldskoolroller, it helps to know people like you and others care to try to help out!

I live in Minnesota. I'm not seeing anything in the events section (if I'm looking at it correctly, which I think I am).

(Here's the impression I've gotten: *Usually*, people when they are young get involved in the club/rave/festival thing with their friends, and as a group of friends get introduced to MDMA that way. Then, as they grow older, if they haven't messed themselves up, they either abandon MDMA, or use it more maturely and quietly with their small circle of friends they've made over the years. Well, I'm on a very different path: I didn't party very much when young, I didn't use any drugs, instead I got serious about family and children and career with some pretty serious responsibilities. Our circle of friends were like us. Now, the kids are happy and grown and have left/are soon to leave, and I have the time and the inclination to explore. But, I don't have the contacts or the knowledge or the "in", so that is why I am awkardly groping around for this kind of advice. Is it probable that it just isn't likely I'll be able to succeed at this? I hope that is not the case, but if people who know better think it is the case, I prefer that I be told that. :()
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I don`t think it is impossible for you to find. I think you need to approach this a different way. You need to make new friends that will help lead you to your destination. Start with finding a way to hang with folks more inclined to partying. Like I said music is a great way to meet people. I`ve been djing since I was 22 and have always been surrounded magical substances. I`m in my early 40`s now and don`t party like I used to but I can still get hooked up through a series of phone calls,or I can head to a festival.

Look for any festivales that have electronic. Here is an example of a place to start www.summerfest.com. .

Good luck man!
 
squarerootof23 said:
Okay, okay. "Summerfest", huh? That's only about 4.5 hours one way.... Maybe I just need to do it.
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That is a long drive! If your going only to try to score then I wouldn`t go. Keep an eye for anything electronic in your area,don`t go just trying to score,but go to try and make new friends.The rest will come.
 
squarerootof23 said:
Thanks D n A. I want to make sure I understand....

You say she met a lot of people around her age - That's encouraging. Did she go alone? (I think that's what I might have to do.) Or, do you think that wouldn't make a difference?

You also say that "... she gets kinda concerned..." I'm not following you. She gets concerned about going to raves? Or, going to raves with you? Or, concerned about - what????

Thanks in advance.
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I think she went with one or two friends who were a bit younger than her, but most of her newer and older rave friends she met at that festival, and of course through them met others. So festivals are definitely a great place to find rollers your age! But I don't think it makes a difference if you go with someone or not - I know I always make new friends at festivals, parties etc just by going around and chatting.

She gets concerned going to raves with me because she's afraid of how people will judge her for rolling with me. Most of my friends are fine with it, in fact most of them think it's pretty cool we have an honest and open relationship like that. But I think she's just concerned in general of anyone at her work, or neighbours (etc) finding out - the kind of people who would look down on it.
 
squarerootof23 said:
Thanks nomy. I read your post a few times, and I think I need to stop planning/envisioning how this would all play out, and just do it.

Confirm this for me, though - In your opinion, if I show up at something like this by myself, and am reasonably normal and friendly, people will be open and friendly with me in return????
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Over analysing is natural for you, but probably not helpful. You got it right when you say you should just do it really. Do some research, decide where to go, then go.

IMO if you turn up to a psytrance party or festival on your own and you are warm and friendly, people will welcome you with open arms. The Trance scene in general is a good place to be. It helps that it's where the old hippies go to of course :) IME.
 
Not sure if Summerfest is the right place to meet older people that take MDMA. I would try something like North Coast Music Festival in Chicago, unless that is too far. Lollapalooza would be good too at the Perry's stage.
 
The main thing would be the lineup. The north coast lineup is all electronic and jam bands with a few hip hop acts thrown in. A perfect event for people who enjoy drugs (mainy MDMA and psychadelics). I went last year with two people that were around 40 years old. Summerfest hardly has any electronic acts and is spread out over 12 Days I believe? The only artists that I saw which would attract such a crowd were yonder mtn string band and girltalk. The rear of the shows were mostly rock, pop, and some hip hop. North coast was the best time I had all of last year and the lineup is 10x better this year. PM me if you want more info, hope this helped :)
 
As I'm now 65 I agree that scoring is really difficult. Most contacts are made among the youngsters and if I was going to show my bald head around the festivals I'd be instantly sussed as a cop or a square.
We always roll in private so we're not likely to pick up contacts at raves or anything.
I've been looking at my pension plan but there's no provision in it for scoring dope of any kind, and remember Keed Spills.
 
Every festival and city seem to have it's own vibe and "culture" to it- there is no rule to how it will be. Part of being out of place is also feeling out of place- if you cultivate some confidence and friendliness that's natural, you'll be welcomed. Everyone feels insecure to some extent at their first rave/event
 
squarerootof23 said:
Oh oh - I'm getting contradictory advice. :?

Some say that I should be able to get to know people and get into the scene by going to festivals, that the people there are welcoming of all ages.

Some - well, at least augustaB - say that the people at a festival would regard someone of my age as a cop (which I'm not) or a square (which I am).



That gets to my original question - How do I become part of the "We" that you're referring to????
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You're doing it again ;)

I am the same kind of age as you, and felt awkward when I went to the party. The first people to speak with me were people my own age and that's the point. You won't stand out as much as you think because there will be some people there the same age. And that's the draw for these events. I can't be specific where you should go as I'm UK based. But vibe seems the same the world over so you will be fine. You won't regret it I promise :)
 
squarerootof23 said:
nomy is right about me (see his posting #57 above), I am prone to overanalyzing, I need to keep that in check.

But chitown rollin, I am curious to hear from you: What are the characteristics of Summerfest versus the North Coast Festival that made you evaluate the two events the way you did? I'm asking just to better learn what to look for as far as what would be most beneficial when I consider other events in the future. Thanks.
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as a born and raised wisconsinite, i def wouldnt try summerfest to meet older people who take mdma lol. I used to bar tend at summerfest for a few years and id say about 95% of older people there are just there to drink n get wasted and listen to tunes. Granted most of them wouldnt narc you out or anything but most would def frown upon it. Thats the culture of my state for the most part.. Lets get my drink on lol... Thats my two cents from talking to thousands of people during my bartending days at summerfest
 
its too bad that kurt (old school 90's midwest ravers should know who this is or have been to his parties lol )from drop bass dosent throw parties any more.. back when i was a youngin in the early 90's i actually saw alot of older people at his parties... lol.. well they could have been older or not i dont know i was 16 then in 93 lol but they def where alot older
 
squarerootof23 said:
Oh oh - I'm getting contradictory advice. :?

Some say that I should be able to get to know people and get into the scene by going to festivals, that the people there are welcoming of all ages.

Some - well, at least augustaB - say that the people at a festival would regard someone of my age as a cop (which I'm not) or a square (which I am).
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That's the beauty of MDMA, my friend. MDMA users while on the drug are known to be some of the most open, non-judgmental group out there. If you were at a festival chances are people will come up and talk to you even if you are too scared to talk to them. At least its how it is at the ones I go to (Rothbury (Electric Forest), North Coast Music Fest, Lollapalooza).
 
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