OH, C-bus - 10.15.04 Friday - Divalicious 2 **REVIEW**

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theladyfoursqare said:
In all fairness DJ's see the flyer till after they are booked legally bound to play in most cases. It goes without saying that DJ's don't design flyers and are reticent to bail on a show to which they have promised to come and are legally obligated to play.
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one great way to remedy this particular issue is to make sure in your contract that all promotional materials have to be ok'd before print. i learn new things to put in my contracts every day. ;)

and to women who may be worried about the flyer issues...never be afraid to stand up and take control of how you are represented. whenever asked to play all female parties...there are two questions i ask: what's the name of the event? what are you planning the flyer to look like? (and that benefit thing too...) you are being represented by the images on that flyer, and you have every right to nip really sexist dumbshit before it gets out of hand.

too many times, we as women (and especially as djs in an overfilled market) are afraid to be aggressive in our approaches, because we are afraid of losing precious gigs. believe me, i have turned down gigs because of the sexist promotional tactics planned by promoters, and it was worth losing the gig to know that i stood up for myself.

if any of you new djs ever have questions about this stuff, i know for sure me and lady 4 [] are always down for giving advice. just ask!

and to the girl wanting advice on djing, feel free to drop me a line anytime! ;) i just won't let ya play trance around me.... ;)
 
physix said:
on the flip, a note to designers...

it's just as "sexy" to have a woman on the flyer RECEIVING pleasure as it is to see them GIVING pleasure (the sucking cock flyer of this party) ...

and it's also just as sexy and naughty to see a man on the leash held by a woman as it is vice versa (ala the SAINTS AND SINNERS party in L'ville)....
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ahhh...***thinks back to the female pimp slappin her drag queen on another party flyer that caused some grief***

gawd, i had to write a dissertation to justify myself on that one... ;)
 
P58 said:
Too all the dumb bitches that can't see my point, fuck you for being ignorant. I was not attacking this party or the talent whatsoever...

Don't people want to have a thought provoking and intelligent debate about the standards that we need to set for the subculture that we perpetuate? Mainstream commercialism uses sex to sell products. I thought that the electronic music culture inovated it's own form of "commercialism"...the flyer... using thought-provoking, artistic, yet TASTEFUL interpretations of what the party and our lives represent. Don't you think you deserve better than this?? Don't you think our music deserves better than this?

I hear more people talking shit than anything; why don't people start speaking their minds about the issues and not other people. Quit worrying about self image and politics; Say what you mean and mean what you say regardless.

It's things like this that are crumbling the "underground".... and forcing it into a club where our music and our djs aren't fucking appreciated....

If you don't voice your beliefs, you have nothing to believe in. This applys to all issues....not just the one I stirred up. I thought this scene was about unity and respect....

I guess not.
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wow...

first, you obviously didn't notice the amount of rational, intelligent discourse that was a direct result of your post...

second, you just called everyone bitches, which in my book completely invalidates pretty much everything you had to say...

thank you, come again...
 
Hey…I thought we were past the whole female/male DJ thing. I think these “Girls Only” events do more damage then good in boosting the reputations of female DJs. I really hope that all you girls come out strong and don’t screw up, because if you do you will cement the belief – like it or not MANY people do believe this – the girls can’t DJ…it’s a man’s game. Yeah, it’s stupid, but it’s true (that people believe that, not that girls can’t DJ). I think these one-sided events have a lot more to loose and really not much to gain.
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what's really sad is that when we women get up on the decks, we can never just represent ourselves and the music we love, we have to represent our whole fucking gender. how many times does a man even have to think about that? not very damn much, i can assure you.

by the same token, i don't mind representing my sistas, cuz i know i can rock it, and so can so many women on the decks.

believe me, with lady four [] on the 1s and 2s, i ain't worried about anyone coming away thinking chicks can't spin! and there's plenty other great talent at this event, so i think we're repped just fine.

and as for my last post, i hadn't read p58's response yet, so...sorry for being redundant...and sorry for posting like carzy too...i am a little late on this discussion, but you know i just couldn't resist!
 
I think it's shitty that a female DJ has to be looked upon as a gimmick in the club scene. I'm a man and I'm kind of offened by the flier. Why is it that almost every commercially successful female DJ has to be wearing a bikini in every one of her promo pictures? Or sucking on a fucking popsicle? And why does that kind of promotion actually work? As long as the maturity level of the general population remains at a high school level I'm afraid you ladies aren't going to see the kind of respect you deserve.
 
Thank you lady bandit, I'm really looking forward to seeing you tomorrow and watching you do your magic!!!Thanks for helping me out.
-Amber
 
Re: Females DJ's

ORORO said:
Is this good for female djs as a whole, HELL YES. Will it damage shit as a whole if one female dj is not on her game, NO. We are comming into this as people who are women, but dont get it twisted, we are INDIVIDUAL people. So, if for some fucked up reason I should have a bad night and not do as well as people thought or think I should have, don't base that off of what sex I am, thats on me, on my own. And just so you understand, thats like someone sayin that the reason I can't spin is because I'm black.
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Shit, a lot of male DJs trainwreck anymore, and motherfuckers cheer.
And Chris you know you gonna rip it up what are you talking about...

...and the winner for most consecutive posts on BL is...drum roll please...
DJ Shiva! (holy stormtroopers, batman, 5 in a row) j/k %)

Good job Kelly it seems you have rallied the troops; I will definetly be in attendance for this....

BTW P58/Jess where you been hiding? There's a DNB battle going on, you know...


peace /// Jere
 
your pm box is full and i'm haven troub. w/ your e-mail holla.
 
Jere, ya know i luv ya!!! I really hope you'll be there... I assumed you'd be there anyways in attendance for the D&B battle...... You playing that nite?? If so, i'll deffo have to come and check ya out.... I luv the stuff ya play..... you and shapeshifter & sinister are the only D&B djs I truely luv to see playing out..... You're hearts are SO into it!!!!! 10 days to go peeps!!!!!!! Can't wait!!! :)
 
i would just like to say that b4 i saw the thread for this party, i had already planned to go to monster mash in cincy (which i am really excited about going to) but i am not real happy about missing ororo. She is probably the best live dj i have ever seen. she f'in rocks and anybody who misses this party for a less than legitimate reason is dumb. if u havent seen her then u are missing out. just had to say my little bit. peace.
 
Timeslots everyone!!


These slots are subject to change!!!

Main Room (Global)

10 – 10:50 Ororo (House)
10:50 – 11:40 Candy Lifer (Minimal Techno)
11:40 – 12:30 Serendipity (Tribal House)
12:30 – 1:45 Lady Foursquare (Battle House)
1:45 – 2:30 NautiKat (Hard Techno)

2nd Room (Barfly)

10 – 10:50 Lady Bandit (Breaks)
10:50 – 11:40 DJ Meghan (Psytrance)
11:40 – 12:30 Molly (Funky Progressive)
12:30 – 1:30 Wendex (Tech House)


3rd Room (International Room/”Needle Exchange” D&B Battle)

1:15 – 2:30 Shan Tran (Jungle/D&B)



4th Room (Mambo Room w/ DJ Ken)

All top 40/Party Hits
 
8 more days, I really can't wait. lady bandit, it was really cool hangin out.
We defently have to hang out agian, and you rocked tuesday night!!!
-amber :)
 
hmmmm, itching to hear some groovy tunes
dont get much of that here in athens
might have to rally some peeps and make a trek

kelly - is this your event? I'll try and make my presence felt
 
wow....five pages and 1800 views later...... Quite a debate, eh? Anyways, good luck to all the ladies. Drop that shit proper!! And Nautikat, no hard feelings...message boards are meant for stirring shit up... Have good fun! And Jere, we're around....we'll hit you up some time soon!

Scott and Jess
 
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