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Official Paedo Discussion Megathread v2

If the 17 year old groomer was only grooming the 14 year old, not the 13yr one too, is he a paedo? What if she was 15?

What he'd just turned 17 and she was just about to turn 15?

What if he was 16 and she was 14? How old do you need to be to be a paedo?

Just if the girl is 16 or older it's fine?

What if in the film Big a woman groomed the kid playing tom hanks child character, even though he was a man on the inside?
 
OK I'll do it for you!

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As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in persons 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest toward prepubescent children (generally age 11 years or younger, though specific diagnostic criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13).[1][2][3][4] An adolescent who is 16 years of age or older must be at least five years older than the prepubescent child before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.
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In other words, he is not a paedo, not medically anyway.

I'll leave the Tom Hanks question as a mystery.
 
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Austin Mahone is seen as a contender to be the next Justin Bieber i fucking hope not one is enough

Internet paedophile Ian Sluggett - who posed as teen boy to groom and abuse girls - is jailed for 10 years

Online paedophile Ian Sluggett was jailed today at Leicester Crown Court for 10 years
A 40-year-old man who posed on websites as a young pop star in order to groom and sexually assault teenage girls was jailed for 10 years today.

Ian Sluggett, formerly of Browns Way, Whetstone, admitted 23 charges including making indecent photographs of a child, meeting a child following sexual grooming and sexual activity with a child.

Leicestershire Police said Sluggett downloaded images of a little-known American pop star and used it to mask his true identity on a number of Facebook accounts he opened under false names.

Through those accounts, he befriended hundreds of people, most of them girls aged 13 to16. Many of his victims were in the Melton and Rutland areas.

As the grooming continued, Sluggett sent indecent images of himself to some of the girls, and persuaded some of them to send him indecent images of themselves.

He then put pressure on his victims to send him increasingly explicit photographs or videos of themselves, threatening to expose them online by publishing the earlier images if they refused his demands.

Leicester Crown Court heard today that he met some of the girls in person, and had sex with some.

His activities were uncovered after a teacher overheard two pupils talking about how one of them was being forced to send indecent images of herself to Sluggett.

Detective Inspector Richard Hiom, of Leicestershire Police’s child sexual exploitation team, said after today’s hearing: “This case is very sad as it raises a number of issues around the use of the social media and the internet.

“Young people need to understand that there are people who will lie on social media sites to satisfy their own sexual needs.

“Our advice is to only have friends on social media sites that you actually have previously met and know.

“You should also never say or do anything on line that you would not say or do in person.

“Once something is on the internet it stays on the internet.

“Parents likewise can help by talking to their children about the risks from these types of people.

“They can take steps such as only allowing devices that connect to the internet to be used in areas of the house used by all members of the family. This includes games consoles.

“Parents should know who their children are talking to both on line and in person.

“I would like to thank the schools involved in this operation for their assistance throughout.

“I would urge any parent or person who works with children to report similar suspicions to us.”

Leicestershire County Council said today that its social workers had worked with police to find and support victims.

Ivan Ould, the council’s cabinet member for children and young people, said: “Online exploitation is a serious offence and we’re pleased that a conviction has been secured.

“We took immediate action to ensure that any vulnerable young people were safe and have offered ongoing support to their families, whilst working closely with the police to help find victims.

“The internet, e-mails and texts are part of everyday life and essential learning tools for young people.

“We work closely with schools to ensure they have the knowledge and skills to educate children on this issue, and with the police to raise awareness of how children and young people can keep safe online.”

Sluggett was also given a 15 year Sexual Offences Prevention Order. This places various restrictions on him, such as banning unsupervised access to children, and forcing him to give police access to any computer he uses.

The order will come into force when he is released from prison.

Sluggett admitted the following crimes:

Making indecent photographs of a child (10 counts)

Distributing indecent photographs of a child (1 count)

Meeting a child following sexual grooming (2 counts)

Attempting to meet a child following sexual grooming (1 count) - Sexual activity with a child (2 counts)

Causing or inciting a child to engage in sexual activity (1 count)

Attempting to cause a child to engage in sexual activity (5 counts) Engaging in sexual activity in the presence of a child (1 count)



Read more: http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/1...tory-20271420-detail/story.html#ixzz2mk0PDhFq
 
Sammy G said:
Had this been your stereotypical loner in a grubby trenchcoat then it may have been a different story. When will people wake up to the fact that most child abuse is committed by 'everyday' folk, and it that it very often involves close family members? I've lost count of the number of 'how could a mother allow this to happen?' comments I've encountered.

The fact is that parental involvement in child abuse is far more common than many people would like to acknowledge.
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Quite. Daddy Dearest may not be a sleb so not on Yew Tree scopes but he is still a dutty fukkin paedo. I was brought up by the man for a large chunk of my early life and only once did I get a suspicion he had a "thing" for my (very) young step/half-sisters. Was clear as daylight though. Could see it from the way he acted around said siblings. I was only 14 last time I saw any of them and was the last memory I have of my father: that he didn't half seem to be inordinately interested in carefully applying lil baby sis's nappy rash cream. Very specific and intense in his application of it. Could've just been in my head. Wasn't though and I knew it wasn't. I fukkin knew he was at it the dutty auld cunt. Just found out a couple weeks ago he's out of prison now. Is a strange feeling knowing I have this whole other family I've never really met who know all about my Daddy Dearest in ways even I (thankfully) managed to avoid getting to know previous to that.

The whole family dynamic is weird to say the least. It's like knowing there's a Big Thing that needs dealing with but nobody wants to even think about it. Least of all small children only glimpsing snippets around the edges but knowing there's more to it. It's not discussed one way or the other. That man does not exist to me. It's a horrible thing to have looming over you it really is. Makes you question everything you think, say and do sometimes. I'm glad I know. I'm not so sure how much detail I want to know. Nor what to do with it. These things don't happen in complete isolation.
 
I can't imagine how difficult that must be Shammy. My family is full of uptight people and other drunk and drugged people. Some dead people because of drink, I blame my brother's early death on cancer caused by alcoholism, that and genetics. But no sexual abuse to my knowledge. We're all rather mute about sex. And my parents are really odd about sex, like it's the work of the devil, but needs done for love, or something. My dad was prone to fits of rage which occasionally were slightly violent, but there was nothing like that. When I was three or four, some older kid stuffed straw up my arsehole. I wasn't happy about that.

Anyway, I think generally these things need talked about, and need opened up, because we can't have generation after generation repeating the same awful mistakes. But that is easier said than... said :D
 
Thankfully I never experienced any sexual abuse as a child in my family home.
I did experience regular violence by my father but I believed at the time that every kid would get the same treatment from their fathers if they had pissed him off.
It was only as I got to teenage years and saw how my friends families operated that I realised that the beatings I had received was not what my friends would get from their dads.
So I can imagine that young children who are sexually abused in the family home would believe it happens in every household and so there was nothing wrong with it.
I don't know if young children are taught at school that if a family member is touching them that it is not normal and that they should tell a teacher or someone.
 
I got this site come up yesterday and it very nearly scared the shit out of me. I just hit one of those mucho sucko links. Its tot to be pretend because the last paragraph spells pass as passs.

But ffs. To my knowledge my computer is no longer desseminating down syndrome mexican porn to all and sundry and kiddie porn really isn't my thing.

Ne the Nonce.

5 years in Nick getting battered by drugged up bull dykes oh charming.

Ed: so i like a bit of animal rape. Ok i'll come out of the closet i am a beast!

Ed: I trust my computers defences implicitly so i suspect its an inside 'funny' job.

http://police.tsubaki.at/?id=9f86dcdfea2d1be33a0088de0ed1ff22
 
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I can't imagine how difficult that must be Shammy. My family is full of uptight people and other drunk and drugged people.
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Hehe. Daddy Dearest is but the cherry on the top really. There's not a single member of my family I know of who isn't... a bit wrong. I'm one of the more presentable examples but there are monsters in the closet and not mistake. Things go on behind closed doors. It's a a rum ol' state of affairs down there and no mistake, missus.

And I don't find it difficult at all now. Well, I probably do in all sorts of ways I have no idea about but not consciously. Lottta processing was required but you can find a place to put anything and everything if you really look.
 
Shambles said:
Hehe. Daddy Dearest is but the cherry on the top really. There's not a single member of my family I know of who isn't... a bit wrong. I'm one of the more presentable examples but there are monsters in the closet and not mistake. Things go on behind closed doors. It's a a rum ol' state of affairs down there and no mistake, missus.

And I don't find it difficult at all now. Well, I probably do in all sorts of ways I have no idea about but not consciously. Lottta processing was required but you can find a place to put anything and everything if you really look.
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You're definitely not a monster, you're a loveable rogue, and a brainy and well read one too. You have a great heart and a great brain. Oh yeah and you're a handsome bugger! Shame that both your body and mine are suffering from the ravages of time. Pain, is what I'm talking about.

I'm glad you don't find it difficult. That's good.
 
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physically impossible, also metaphysically impossible. And theoretically impossible too!


Good bloke is a synonym for shambles.
 
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