Official Heroin Discussion Thread IV

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Nigerians don't fuck with SEA #4 which is white when pure

LLueBight said:
^^ Well you get regular white(ish) (it's much more tan than white) powder too right? I'm in chicago, so we get the same kind as the east coast does..it just looks a little different in my pic because it's 'uncut'. But 'uncut' (or raw) really just means not cut with diphenhydramine in chicago. Of course all dope is cut. it's cut before it even makes it to the states.

Our stuff is mainly from the nigerians but it is true the mexicans are increasingly getting a little bigger out here. I'm lucky enough to know exactly what kind I'm getting- which is SE asian #4.

I'm sure some of the other chicago vets like chinky know what I'm talking about. Chinky, from what I've read it sounds like you get the really good shit too. I guarantee you probably aren't getting the super white, super powderized shit thats heavily cut with diphenhydramine? Your shit is probably real chunky and tan, am I right?

I've been fuckin around with the chi dope for a minute now, I started out like most people do copping on the west side buying bags instead of grams. I bought into the whole 'red tape, black tape, green tape is flame!' blah blah. That shit would literally just be sooo white, and completely sift powder. you wouldnt even have to break it up most the time! The bags would even sometimes be almost full, which would trick you into thinking the bags were fat LOL

I remember a cpl times getting these fat ass bags from the west side, I'd weigh it out and they'd be like .4-.5 and I'd be all excited thinking i got a great deal..but I'd still have to do 3 of the bags to catch a buzz. And that'd be like doing a 1.5 grams of powder in a sitting for an avg buzz LOL. man oh man, have I learned from those days. Once in a great while, especially on the 'hand-out' days, you'd get some halfway decent stuff but the bags would always be way smaller, .1 at the most or even less.

So the point is-especially for ppl like j@ger that wanna visit and check the dope scene- you aren't gonna get fire stuff from the west side coppin from the street runners. It just doesn't happen. You have to find someone that isn't cutting it up 10fold.

Again, I'm sure chinky can verify this about the D in chicago. The street stuff is almost always pure white sift powder that burns the FUCK outta your nose. And if you're sniffing that stuff it eventually REALLLLY starts fucking up your nose, clogging the shit out of your sinuses and will eventually start fucking up your lung capacity and the way they function (side effect of insufflating large amounts of diphenhydramine). Good dope DOES NOT fuck up your sinuses. That's mainly because you are doing about a 1/10 of powder less in some cases, and because of the absence of the diphenhydramine.

Don't get me wrong though, good dope can have a nice little burn to it..but it's a GOOD burn. Sniffing westside bags burns like hell in a really awful way. Anyone whose had good dope knows what I mean by a 'good' burning sensation versus a bad one.

So Chinky and the rest of you chi-town vets..stand up for our good dope cause all those D boys on the westside are giving us a bad rep. Damn it's fuckin late. gotta love coming outta a nod at 3am..
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Not meaning to dispute you but Nigerians normaly only deal in SWA dope,as in persian/afghani,etc...but they could be expanding into SEA heroin,,But the photo of the heroin you had in an earlier post was brown dope,and #4 South East Asian dope is white powder when pure or at 90% which is how kilos of SEA heroin usually come,in white powder with a 10% cut of caffeine,,look this up if you do not believe it or ask an old junkie,if you know any,,I know a dude that lives in Philly that was doing #4 White SEA heroin while still in Vietnam and according to all he has told me and from every thing anyone has said or written concerning #4 SEA heroin it is white powder or chunks...SWA heroin looks like the brown #4 you have which is really good shit,but it is not the same color as SEA #4 ,although there is white#4 from afghanistan aka SWA,which is where most Nigerians get there supplys of heroin,from sources in SWA...sorry if that picture of the brown heroin you showed is supposed to be #4 SEA then you were informed wrong by whoever sells it to you or your connections because not only is SEA heroin rare nowdays it is always a white color,always,unless it was cut to hell and then it would not be "raw"...you got SWA #4 but thats all good,easier to get since Afghanistan produces over 90% of the worlds opium,SWA #4 is as good as it comes if pure like SEA is...I don't think at the same purity levels there is any difference between the quality of the two,both are frist rate grade A smack...just different colors and cuts,even at the "raw" kilo levels which come pure for both types...
 
I wish East coast dealers sold the dope in caps... That shit would take the nerves right out for copping for me..... All i would need is a drink and the stuff would be gone if i felt like it needed to be.... Not so easy with wax paper slips which are covered in tape to add to the shittyness of it.....


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taking two slips to my face right now..... now i waiting for my bud man to get done dicking around and get back to town
 
I caught a case three years back for a nominal amount of dope (4 blows). It was a first time offense and so I got put in Cook County drug classes. I completed the classes but never really filled out any paperwork requesting my case be expunged. Does anyone know anything about the process to get your case expunged or does that just automatically happen upon completion of the classes? I've tried to do several background checks on myself and I can't find anything. Am I good? Just finished school finally and am looking for a job and I would hate to explain a dope charge.
 
DavisK4high247 said:
Not meaning to dispute you but Nigerians normaly only deal in SWA dope,as in persian/afghani,etc...but they could be expanding into SEA heroin,,But the photo of the heroin you had in an earlier post was brown dope,and #4 South East Asian dope is white powder when pure or at 90% which is how kilos of SEA heroin usually come,in white powder with a 10% cut of caffeine,,look this up if you do not believe it or ask an old junkie,if you know any,,I know a dude that lives in Philly that was doing #4 White SEA heroin while still in Vietnam and according to all he has told me and from every thing anyone has said or written concerning #4 SEA heroin it is white powder or chunks...SWA heroin looks like the brown #4 you have which is really good shit,but it is not the same color as SEA #4 ,although there is white#4 from afghanistan aka SWA,which is where most Nigerians get there supplys of heroin,from sources in SWA...sorry if that picture of the brown heroin you showed is supposed to be #4 SEA then you were informed wrong by whoever sells it to you or your connections because not only is SEA heroin rare nowdays it is always a white color,always,unless it was cut to hell and then it would not be "raw"...you got SWA #4 but thats all good,easier to get since Afghanistan produces over 90% of the worlds opium,SWA #4 is as good as it comes if pure like SEA is...I don't think at the same purity levels there is any difference between the quality of the two,both are frist rate grade A smack...just different colors and cuts,even at the "raw" kilo levels which come pure for both types...
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That's very interesting and the more I think about it I suppose you could be right. To be truthful I wasn't told it was actually SEA, I was informed it was asian dope and since it comes from a nigerian I did my own research and according to the DEA government website it said the nigerians were bringing mostly SEA #4 dope..So I just put 2 and 2 together and assumed it was SEA.

My hook is very special, but also very hush hush. I am not really aloud to ask questions about that kind of stuff. And even if I could, I wouldn't be able to understand it anyway..you ever tried to talk in english to a nigerian? lol. I thought I was dealing with an indian dude until I actually saw him. It was an accent I never really had heard before. Much Thanks for that information though DavisKnight, I stand corrected. Maybe I'll try to ask the question in a non-probing way next time I talk to him. but like I said, they take their career seriously, I don't know his name nor do I know where he lives or any of that kinda stuff.

I ended up picking up another batch of this, figured I'd stock before it changes. =D
 
Yeah i would not ask them either...

LLueBight said:
That's very interesting and the more I think about it I suppose you could be right. To be truthful I wasn't told it was actually SEA, I was informed it was asian dope and since it comes from a nigerian I did my own research and according to the DEA government website it said the nigerians were bringing mostly SEA #4 dope..So I just put 2 and 2 together and assumed it was SEA.

My hook is very special, but also very hush hush. I am not really aloud to ask questions about that kind of stuff. And even if I could, I wouldn't be able to understand it anyway..you ever tried to talk in english to a nigerian? lol. I thought I was dealing with an indian dude until I actually saw him. It was an accent I never really had heard before. Much Thanks for that information though DavisKnight, I stand corrected. Maybe I'll try to ask the question in a non-probing way next time I talk to him. but like I said, they take their career seriously, I don't know his name nor do I know where he lives or any of that kinda stuff.

I ended up picking up another batch of this, figured I'd stock before it changes. =D
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I would not bother asking the dealer either if I were you as it really does not matter as long as it's good shit!!. .lol..but anyway its like 6 of one and a half dozen of the other as some say..it really does not matter if it's SEA or SWA as long as it's fire i say..I only wanted to mention it becasue of the colors,not to cause you any troubles..lol..so I would be stocking up major on that shit too,even if it was from Hole in the Wall , Thailand or something...lol...purity is what counts and it looks to be quite the fire,altho looks are decieving but i think you said its fire so i believe it looking at the pic and hearing you say it's pure shit...I agree,and wish they brought more heroin like that down I-55 to Memphis and St.Louis ,both areas where i am found at one time or another ,or in between the two somewhere chilling...lol..anyway late ron and enjoy the fire dope...
 
After 4 minutes without O2 brain damge starts..

J@germe1ster said:
^Very true, "shooting more dope" isn't a good solution at all I should really think before I post. I guess its hard to tell what the true problem with out more info. I've seen plenty of people "fall out" so to speak but all were still breathing. I totally forgot the first time my GF oded she had stopped breathing before the medics came. Afterwards, she said she had a hangover that she had never felt before. When she described what it felt like it was not like anything I have heard of before with dope. Was this from the Narcan or the lack of O2 to the brain? And how long on average can a person go without oxygen to the brain before brain damage is imminent?
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After 4 to 5 minutes without O2 the brain starts to die off in areas permanately,luckily we have a lot of brain matter ,but 4 to 5 minutes and you will have some irrevesible brain damge altho not always a noticeable amount to the person...depends on which areas of the brain the cells died during the time without O2...after more than 8 or 10 minutes you are totally brain dead i think thats the maximum time..10 miutes until your brain is totally dead ...but people can and do dive and are able to hold there breath for 3 or 4 minutes at a time so i guess for them it might take a bit longer by a minute maybe..? dunno exactly...
 
Yeah I don't get rraw but its not garbage by anymeans.I never asked for raw though either..some might say I don't know shit cause I don't slam my shit so whatever

I took the weekend off and went and visitedf some friends at school and got so fucked up I ended up pissin in the livingroom..gave me the reminder why I don't like to drink
 
In response to the suggestion that the local busts have scared off the corner boys and girls in the main west-side dope spots...maybe for an hour or two...possibly even a day...BUT....the dope "game" is as strong as ever. Why? Some of you may ask...well, it's economics 101, with a side of addiction psychology. lol...

...as long as the area remains untouched by gentrification. Selling rocks and blows is the easiest way, or one of 'em, for the local population to "move on up", so to say, in the world. No government mandated education necessary, only street smarts. Law enforcement can shut down a crew or two, or even twenty, and those "shut down" corners will not remain (vacant) prime dope game real estate for long. Quite simply, it's an unwinnable war for the Narcos/Police, they can fuck with the supply side of the equation every now and then, sometimes significantly so, but they can't touch the demand side in any significant manner...and THAT, my friends, makes the dope game stronger than ever. Heroin and crack will never be legalized in my lifetime, just too many politicians pandering to "frightened" public for that to happen, but the "HAMPSTERDAM" experiment we saw in "The Wire" may be given a serious shot in some progressive area(imo, it is currently being attempted in various neighborhoods throughout various cities...not in the way portrayed in the show where the police come out and tell the dealers to do whatever they want in a given area, more along the lines of not giving a shit about certain dope spots...just my opinion, no way to really prove this one way or the other). That method is the best answer, imo, the only one given the circumstances. Just for the hell of it...I've been driving around the main dope blocks/areas/etc randomly for the past week(before meeting up with my main connect), and I've never heard so many whistles/hey-hey/right here/etc calls. A monkey could cop a jab at 9am tommorow, or 5pm, or whenever, if the monkey could figure out stick shift...

On to my question...been getting the off-white/grey powder in the small bags with blue stars(I know the packaging is somewhat meaningless in Chicago, just wondering anyone else has been getting the same). Ish literally knocks me out within 30 minutes, and I mean OUT...meaning I'll be asleep for a good 30-60 minutes and then wake-up feeling good.... Only takes 2 bags(well, 2 "dubs", and I'm thinking they are dubs because 2 bags have never knocked me the fuck out before)...this a usual experience for most of you snorters? Not the typical nod, or in and out every thirty seconds, but flat out asleep...wonder what the dope could be mixed with? Dude only sells to me if I'm buying a hefty amount, and is paranoid as shit...which I guess is a good thing, eh? Also, been taking 16mg of suboxone a day up until 7 days ago...could that play a role in what I've been experiencing? Take it easy y'all, and props to anyone who takes the time to read/answer my simple/stupid questions...
 
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Those busts are all smoke and mirrors. Shit looks good in headlines but does it really have in impact? I think we all know the answer to that.
 
Our economy sucks...so the police and government have to find ways to make money.....Drug busts can lead to millions of dollars and assets seized.... It is pretty hot all over with cops,meter maid, home inspectors and whatever else they can make money with.... The shitter the economy will get the more we will have to deal with them looking for money so hard.
 
nah i'm right near paterson, i've been cop'n some banggggginnn shit n it's not dry at all shit is spreadin like a wildfire.
 
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Unbreakable said:
Our economy sucks...so the police and government have to find ways to make money.....Drug busts can lead to millions of dollars and assets seized.... It is pretty hot all over with cops,meter maid, home inspectors and whatever else they can make money with.... The shitter the economy will get the more we will have to deal with them looking for money so hard.
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I would like to apologize for the rant that some of you are about to read, you've been warned! I'm tired of being ostracized by society for something I have very little control over. I'm sure we all go through periods of intense depression, periods where dreaming is preferable to living...and when we open our eyes to a new day....a sense of dread overwhelms us...anyway, sorry for the rant, all of my friends have moved away, and even though I was the best man in three weddings, apparently returning my calls is too time consuming. I shouldn't be sad, I have plenty of cash, no felonies, a decent job, but something is missing and I fill that hole with smack. I think I know what will "cure" my problems, but finding true love isn't as simple as it's made out to be in the movies. Maybe I'm too sensitive, maybe my issues have something to do with the physical/sexual/mental abuse I went through as a child, but for the most part I try and stay positive and empathetic to the needs of others. One last thing, thanks to those who took the time to read this mini-rant, even though I don't know you, and even though cries for help will most likely go unanswered as they always seems to, thank you...and take care. If any of you are feeling down and out, please feel free to contact me, a chat would be good for both of us, check my profile for my AIM/facebook/chat info. Life isn't fair, I've known that for too long, enough bitching, and on to the rant.

Mos def, on the other hand, lean times also make it more likely for LEO's, who may be facing tough economic times as well,(or hell, they may enjoy receiving a suitcase filled with cash to do some fairly simple things, ala cracking down on a rival crew/etc) to accept some "hush" money, of sorts. Of course, these types of deals have been going on for centuries, but a desperate person will use desperate means to keep his or her family in their comfortable middle class neighborhood.

Sorry for pointing out ish that most of the "enlightened" on this board and beyond have recognized for quite some time... deals between powerful/rich criminal organizations and law enforcement are nothing new and quite common. Power corrupts, no if ands or buts about that, if we bluelighters were given a decent amount of "power", lets say 10 years to run the Chicago political machine, the vast majority of us would be partaking in backroom deals, under the table handshakes, etc...left and right. Yeah, I agree that in today's marketplace/economy, the average law abiding citizen is going to get fucked in the ass over and over by the local/city/national government. Sickening, mos def, but such is life in our society.

Unfortunately, some of us have been used as pawns in this multi-billion dollar industry known as the international drug trade/marketplace. Powerful people pay off other powerful people, and those people make sure that their product(well...the vast majority of their product, of course law enforcement must put on a show for the "frightened public" who want to "win" the drug war, and as a result a few "pawns" are sacrificed, whether they be addicts, low-level dealers, and the occasional big fish who stepped on the wrong foot...lol) is sold and eventually finds its way into the nose of little 'ol NeedlessBeing.

So, yeah...it does appear to be "hot" on the streets, and many of those Narcs and officers will fuck you in the ass....it's their job and the ignorant public want to see the evil drug dealers/addicts locked up. Of course, in the grand scheme of things, we are nothing but a peon, a speck of dirt on the ass of a modern day Pablo Escobar/Bill Gates. We pay the price, we are the "demand" in the drug game equation, we go through hell day in and day out to feed our addictions, but again, in the end...we are nothing but pawns in this game. Most of us will get sacrificed for the "greater good", some of us will get out of the game before the day of reckoning comes, and one or two of us may be lucky enough to play the game till the very end, and in turn become one of the powers that be...just take it easy on my ass, ok?

Oh yeah, the west-blows I've been scooping have been outstanding recently. I described the product/packaging in a previous post, just in case some of y'all happen to be receiving the same stuff.
 
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chinky said:
I took the weekend off and went and visitedf some friends at school and got so fucked up I ended up pissin in the livingroom..gave me the reminder why I don't like to drink
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shit, yeah drinking sucks...but were you high too? My guess is you were and yeah, that'll make you piss in a living room. Such a terrible idea to combine dope with alcohol IMO. Last time I drank on dope I lost the ENTIRE Night. Not even a faint memory. THere are pictures though..
 
The last time I did dope I snorted some chunky tan, took a lot of benzos, drank maybe one shot, and just kind of blacked out and then passed out. I did the dope at 10pm, came to at 6pm, missed the last Lake Michigan sunrise I had planned to watch, stumbled to the beach anyway and dry heaved for a while. I was awake all night, I think, but not conscious for what was supposed to be my last nod. Fuckkk I still can't believe I missed it. There are no pictures either.

I should've gone easy on the Klonopin, but they're like Lay's, can't eat just one!

NeedlessBeing, I'm sorry you're having a hard time. I'm sorry you're lonely.
 
bout to go hit the open market and am hoping that it getting better like everyone saying. ill be putting it to the test. wish me luck all!!
 
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Got wheels, a solid phone connect again (finally). But no goddamn money! Just finished up getting my bachelors degree after a decade of on and off schoolin'. Wish getting a job was as easy as signing up for fall classes. Fuck, back to good ol' jim beam for a bit.
 
Unbreakable said:
I wish East coast dealers sold the dope in caps... That shit would take the nerves right out for copping for me..... All i would need is a drink and the stuff would be gone if i felt like it needed to be.... Not so easy with wax paper slips which are covered in tape to add to the shittyness of it.....


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taking two slips to my face right now..... now i waiting for my bud man to get done dicking around and get back to town
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Don't know about these days but, The Baltimore used to be gelcaps back in the day.
 
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