Official 2011 NFL Season Thread

[Methadone84]

I was starting to really worry in that 2nd quarter falcons game phew

 

[Anachronism]

another week, another Tim Tebow miracle. Marion Barber has to win the dumb-ass award of the week. if he would have just fallen in-bounds that Chicago VS Denver game would have been over then and there

that was the weirdest ending I've ever seen....between that and Detroit's bs win today, I'm convinced that the universe is conspiring against the Bears. And I love how Tebow gets the glory - the credit goes mostly to barbers eff ups and their kicker. I hope he's enjoying this because his luck should run out soon. People can't really expect that he's going to keep winning in the nfl on 'heart' when it comes with that crappy arm.

 

[China Rider]

leave marion barber the fuck alone

one of the best runnings backs to ever dominate the big ten, ron dayne aint got shit on MB3

and lets go cardinals! win out so the 'worst division in the nfl' can have two representatives in the playoffs

cards have the browns, bengals and seahawks remaining

 

[suburu]

^Dumbass of the week goes to MB. He should be shot with his own shit. Fine him 200k.

And I love how Tebow gets the glory - the credit goes mostly to barbers eff ups and their kicker.

Matt Pratt and.......... Their D, Their D, Their D!! Man its like the Broncos defense doesnt even exist with the media. They've only played poorly in 2 games this season, V the Lions and against the Packers. Theyve allowed Timbo to work his 5 min magic.

Cowboys made so many mistakes in the last 3 mins they deserved to lose. On that 3rd and 5 with 2.30 left, Romo had a pretty easy pass to Austin for another blown coverage td. On the same play, the Giants jumped offside but the Cowboys O-line were like statues and the center didn't snap the ball either. Wouldve been a 1st down and surely the game.

 

[23536]

[blink]Sparano's Gone!!![/blink]

 

[atri]

this is what i look like when i watch teh bucs play

 

[axl blaze]

MNF prediction: SEA's Marshawn Lynch is going to run all over that weak St Louis run defense

 

[alasdairm]

28 total yards so far. last 2 plays went for losses. he's not going to town (yet).

in the game when the rams beat the saints earlier in the season, the saints had only 56 total yards on the ground so the rams rush defense can get it done (although they are about worst in the league against the rush overall).

alasdair

 

[Kenickie]

oh atri

 

[CoffeeDrinker]

I think that the NFL is a bit different from a sport as say, the MLB, where stats truly reign supreme. but, I can win my argument this way, as well, so I'll play

This is a very true statement that any serious sports fan would have to agree with. MLB is pretty much all about stats whereas NFL has a very large intangible aspect to it that you CAN'T deny, and it's why nihilistic number crunchers often find themselves befuddled and attempt explaining things after the fact whereas people who take into account the bigger picture in football will have a better understanding than just looking at the stats. The score isn't just one big stat, but I can see why someone would think that way. It's a reflection of the amount of effort and energy each side puts in, also taking into account flukes, luckiness, the quality of calls, and the mental toughness of each team. If you know how to read the tea leaves, as it were, you get a pretty accurate fix on how these things can turn out. Hell, even in Madden, the intangible aspect is undeniable. Also, stats are reflections of the past, which is no guarantee for future predictions in football. In baseball the law of averages almost ALWAYS works out predictably and reliably, but in football it's a much different beast. Who was going to predict how fucking shitty the Eagles turned out to be? Who was going to predict how amazing the Broncos were going to be?

Those are just two examples, but it's an inherent fact of football that you will always have a limited viewpoint if you only go by stats.

Even San Fransisco...jesus...there's another one...and The Colts on the other side of the coin as well...it's undeniable...

Keep in mind, I believe there's almost no intangible aspect to some games, and arguing with anything but stats is hard to do with those games (poker and baseball are two examples), but the NFL is just is a different animal and nihilists like alisdairm will never be convinced otherwise. I'm not saying stats don't play significant a role, and don't tell you some important things, but you cannot discount the intangible, which is kinda a misnomer because there are definitely "tangible" aspects to these so-called "intangibles" that people talk about, but that's another discussion I suppose. Psychology plays a large role in so-called intangibles, and we're learning more about it all the time.

I'm not saying I'd pick Eli over Aaron, but I'd definitely feel confident going up against him and winning if I had Eli as my best option. Just as an FYI. I'd definitely pick Tom over both of them though.

That being said, I highly doubt the Steelers have the best receiving corps, but you can definitely make a case for Wallace and Brown, but how much of it is Ben making them look better? Just a question....

I'm a Cowboy fan and I'd take their receivers any day, but I'd love to have Heins Ward for blocking and sheer mental ballsiness, but I think Dez is extremely tough and way more athletic, Austin is definitely tough as well. And almost all of their back-ups are threats to go the distance on any pass play. I'm so glad we got rid of Roy Williams, but I'm pissed we let go of Crayton, but I guess that's business. Not to mention we have 3 good Tight Ends, 1 superstar at everything and 2 solid compliment receiving tight ends that can also block.

That being said the Cowboys have all sorts of messes in the intangible/psychological department so I'm not even going to go there.....

its all horseshit so far... if tebow beats the pats, I'll reacquaint myself with the inside of a church, though.

This.

 

[Care]

Are you guys forgetting that the Pats almost lost to the lowly Redskins this week? Upset is definitely possible, I would not rule it out by any means.

 

[axl blaze]

and the Colts gave the Pats a helluva game for a bit!!

I am cheerily rooting for Tim Tebow and Von Miller to take down Alasdairm's Pats last night

anybody see the meltdown Tom Brady threw at his Offensive Co-Coordinator when his Coach was reprimanding/yelling at him for that ugly INT that almost cost his team the win??

it's classic ESPiN trying to make a story out of a mole-hill, but the fight was so full of vitriol that H/C Bellicheck and others had to intervene and disseminate

 

[alasdairm]

Steelers receiver Mike Wallace is among the league leaders in receptions(43), yards (800), touchdown catches (five) and yards per catch (18.6)...

I just read "league best" for one WR, and "league leading receptions...

there's a notable difference between among the leaders and leader. when you have to embellish the facts to make your point, you're admitting that your case doesn't stand up on its merits.

for what it's worth, if you bothered to check yourself instead of just drinking somebody else's kool-aid, wallace isn't the league leader in any of these categories. he's 19th in receptions, 8th in yards, 7th in touchdown catches and 13th in yards per catch.

among the leaders. not even close to leader.

...I would hazard that many posters here in S+G agree with me, or agree with me mostly

I am cheerily rooting for Tim Tebow and Von Miller to take down Alasdairm's Pats last night

well, elite teams always have more haters than the mediocre teams. if you're (plural) so desperate to see new england lose, they're doing something right.

denver seems to have new england's number the last few times they've played so this one is certainly not a forgone conclusion.

how do you feel about pittsburgh's chances on the road against that monster 49ers defense?

alasdair

 

[Pander Bear]

between graphic video of lovers' quarrels on the Pats bench, and shit like this (saying tebow's name like 100 times in an hour), and lets not forget the sports press's obsession with Brett Farve— it should be clear that espn is no better than TMZ, and that is largely because your average sports fan is no better than his insufferable cunt of a girlfriend.

 

[alasdairm]

and that is largely because your average sports fan is no better than his insufferable cunt of a girlfriend.

it's shit like this that makes me wish i could still have a signature

alasdair

 

[Pander Bear]

kenickie excluded, of course, for being "one of the guys" in some respects

thanks ali

 

[axl blaze]

if you're (plural) so desperate to see new england lose, they're doing something right.

denver seems to have new england's number the last few times they've played so this one is certainly not a forgone conclusion.

how do you feel about pittsburgh's chances on the road against that monster 49ers defense?

it's good to be hated, dude. I hate the Patriots because they are also the class of the AFC - which is the class of the NFL. my team is perhaps the most hated team in the League. if you feel frustrated by third parties of ill will, you should come to Ohio and watch a Bengals/Browns VS Steelers game with me you've been near the two Coasts so much, that watching football in the State it was at least invented in, but at the most perfected in - you would walk out of that bar rather chaotically quixotic

and the 49ers VS Steelers game is game of the week. two great defenses, and finally a MNF game that us nice-non-commie-red-blooded-American-males(and Keni!) deserve! I've already conferred a bit with huge Niners fan Care (or wait, did he say he likes Seattle moar?) in a thread or two here. I believe that both defenses will bloodily bash the field in, while Big Ben will prove that Alex Smith just can't match up to the same game speed as him

I will say Niners are damn lucky James Harrison cold-cocked his way into suspension and that our top defenseman in LaMarr Woodley is injured. however, no excuses. honestly, I was a little upset in the Niners letting themselves get beat against their Arizona Cardinals. that loss just lessens the sweetness of victory potential, for my black + yellow (gold)

 

[Care]

The cardinals did what every team that has beaten the niners this year has done, score on long passing plays. You cant run vs the niners and redzone defense is top in the league. Other than that the cardinals did almost nothing on offense. But what really gave the game away was our horrendous redzone offense. We had 4 or 5 redzone opportunities in the first half and got 0 touchdowns. We were also +2 or 3 in turnovers.... but still managed to lose.

If we do well in the redzone on offense, and our secondary doesnt allow tons of long plays then the 49ers are nigh unbeatable. Those are definitely the weak points of the team though.

And no im not a dirty seahawks fan.

 

[axl blaze]

everybody else hear about former Chicago WR Sam Hurd, who can be facing life in prison after buying kilos of cocaine and marijuana, and planning to distribute in the Chicago-land area??

damn. I wonder to how many NFL players Hurd dealt to? they must be desperately deleting his cell phone number from their collective phones!!

I think Hurd is being charged officially in Texas for some reason. this doesn't look good for him as Texas is notoriously tough on drug crimes

what a waste of young talent (dude is 26 - and just got officially cut from the Bears' squad)

 

[Care]

Another dangerous deviant locked up by the righteous hand of the law 8)