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i should eb gettin crazy and wild (gettin high on meth) again sometime this monf
and this time i'll have an actual pipe and be less of a nub at smoking.
 
Just ordered 100 grams of powdered Borneo Red Vein kratom.. My mom ordered it for me as an early x-mas present, lol. I'm eager to try and find a suitable replacement for bupe during the PAWS stages of getting off of heroin.

Thanks ma!
 
I was on 8-24mg's Suboxone per day for the last 6 months. I weaned down to about 4mg's a day then had to stop because I lost my job and could not afford to go to the Dr. anymore. It has been 16 days since I had any suboxone, xanax, valium, hydrocodone or oxydone. I went through about 2 weeks of very acute and hellish withdrawals. As I am over the hump, I know each day will get better. I am starting to sleep a little more each night. when I do doze off, it is only for about 30 minutes at at a time and the dreams are very intense. they are all about problem solving and figuring something out so it is not restful at all. today I took a few 15mg Opana and some valium. I just could not stand the anxiety and anxiousness. I am wondering where to go from here. I dont want to get strung out again but I am so glad that I am not a slave to the suboxone anymore. The downside is that all opiates once again work and I can feel them. I would love to stay off of everything but I needed some relief today. I guess I am looking for some encouragement, advice or similair stories. thanks to all reading this.
 
I may have a doctors appointment tomorrow or wednesday. I don't know what the fuck I am going to do when he writes my usual script for 240 dilaudids. I want like 20, max.
 
That doesn't work for me.

In the words of Bill Bourroghs, "Dope is profane, like money, the more you have, the more you use..."
 
BrokedownPalace said:
Just ordered 100 grams of powdered Borneo Red Vein kratom.. My mom ordered it for me as an early x-mas present, lol. I'm eager to try and find a suitable replacement for bupe during the PAWS stages of getting off of heroin.

Thanks ma!
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Yeah it's a good idea. Are you familiar with this particular RVB you're getting? It's generally a pretty good strain (I think it's pretty similar to what's usually called Bali), just wondering your experience level with it...
 
muvolution said:
That doesn't work for me.

In the words of Bill Bourroghs, "Dope is profane, like money, the more you have, the more you use..."
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Too fucking true. Never worked for me either, unless I hid my pills while I was already doped out and found em later while fiending. But in the end, they still got ingested.
 
Pegasus said:
Yeah it's a good idea. Are you familiar with this particular RVB you're getting? It's generally a pretty good strain (I think it's pretty similar to what's usually called Bali), just wondering your experience level with it...
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I have never used Kratom, actually. But I heard very good things about the vendor I used, and this strain seems to be the closest to what kind of effects I am looking for. Apparently it is more sedating, which is what I need.

I ordered 100 grams at a great price, so I have room to experiment.
 
100 grams will be plently to experiment with. While most of my experience has been with extracts, I've had good results from the regular old powder. Apparently if you're making a tea, the best thing to do is use the leaves + the powder and do a "toss n' wash".
 
Yeah that's what I heard.. I'm just uncertain of the dose I should start with. I have been off heroin for 15 days, but have used 8mg of bupe over the course of a few days. But I haven't used any bupe or anything since Sunday morning, I took my last 1mg. The kratom will arrive tomorrow according to the tracking number. I'm sure I still have some kind of perma-tolerance due to years of shooting dope and shit, but my tolerance is certainly far lower than what it was when I was using..

Anyone with powdered leaf experience have any suggestions? Peg? I know you have used kratom in the past.. I was thinking starting with around 10 grams.. Is that too much? Too little?
 
^Too much IMO... I'd start around 7g. If you go too high, you'll probably get kratom nausea, which sucks pretty badly. You can always top off after around an hour.

The most important thing IMO is to make sure your stomach is empty.
 
^My thoughts exactly. Don't think that because its not scheduled it can't pack a punch. There's a good deal of variability of the purity of various batches of the same strain/"strain" (even from the same vendor).
 
I guess I couldn't stay away ;)

BdP, I am with NT and peg - start a bit lower to ensure you don't have bad side effects (I get headaches when I go too high). Just don't expect this to produce effects on par with heroin or even bupe no matter how high you go but it can be useful to help with paws and so forth as long as it doesn't tease you into wanting the real thing which many feel it does.

I've really missed you, BL :)
 
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