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occasional IV?

Well ive been IV'ing H for about a year now on and off, and when on normally 1-2 a week. I find i have alot of self control with the issue. I take breaks that might last a month or more then buy enough for roughly 20 shots. The only thing that i have noticed is that i have developed a very deep love of the needle and the ritual. So at the moment, for me its very possible.
 
I IV only occasionally. And at the moment I don't use on a regular basis.
Never really did. there was period when I used more frequently. one of my then close friend was a dealer so I had free heroin then.
And I never even tried to learn to IV myself. I never wanted to. I had people around me way experienced then I was, so I let a couple of them IV me.
One of the 2 times I OD'd I ended up in hospital. First ER early in the morning and then psychiatry supervision over the night.
The doctor asked me a couple of times why don't I have withdrawals. He really didn't believed I could overdose without being addicted.
 
I think it depends on what you are trying to IV. Trying to occasionally use heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine/crack IV'd is going to be much much harder than other drugs. I think IV DMT is the easiest drug to not want to re-dose, as it is so intense that you don't want to instantly repeat the experience; you need some time to absorb what you went through.
 
when I used meth, I would IV it when I reached the last shard in my stash. I've IV'd meth maybe 10 times. I could control my use like this, but with cocaine (and heroin, but not nearly as much as cocaine) if I IV'd, I'd keep IVing until I was a full-blown addict again.
 
IV morphine

The few times I have searched for anything morphine or drug related, I have been prompted to this site. My curiosity has gotten me tonight so I felt the need to register and make a post. Basically, I IV morphine about twice a month. I don't go off the deep end with it, I don't consider myself addicted. I should have prefaced this by saying that I was at one time a full blown addict, not a fun thing to be. But today I do it in moderation. I don't smoke marijuana or even drink. I just IV morphine. I am curious as to how many other folks out there walk a similar line as this? I believe that because I was once an addict I understand where to draw the line. That If I can't handle the low, don't get high. I do crave admittedly, but I don't jeopardize anything long term for a short term pleasure, other than the fact that it is a controlled substance and is illegal. I have been doing this for about a year now. Anyone else just like to shoot up every once in a while? I think what I am getting at really is if there's anyone out there that's been able to do this and not let it get out of hand? I can't seem to stop, thus I have a weird kind of addiction. But I'm not getting worse. But there's only one way to go if I'm still using and that's getting worse. It's just something that's been bothering me lately. My girlfriend has gotten really really suspicious since she found needles and a burnt spoon in a desk drawer at my office. It was pretty much getting caught except she lives in her own world and believes what ever she wants to believe. Does anyone believe that you can do this and not return to full blown addiction within some time? Hopefully I managed to get what's on my mind out appropriately. Thanks
 
With IVing think of it like this:

"You two are now blood related, and family tends to stick around."

^ damn, i never say this, but i just made a good fuckin quote.
 
ATLL765 said:
I have to say I get a rush to see the blood flush back into the barrel and that's just as much of an addiction for me as the heroin is.
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heh...good to know im not the only one who gets an odd little enjoyment from their dope. i know EXACTLY what you mean...nothing like seeing a nice thin stream flowing back into the barrel! I get my dope from baltimore, so its the scramble...and another part i really enjoy is heating it up...when the water gets mixed in, its a white, cloudy liquid...and while heating it up, i love watching the cloudy white disappear into a golden brown liquid.
 
First time I IV'd I got a hell of a rush, just from one bag. I used to only snort it, for 6 months I snorted it. Then one day I picked up the needle & plunged in. Never thought about snorting again.
 
i am a daily syringe user; i IV suboxone multiple times a day. i dont think i could only IV occasionaly, i dont i think i woud be able to have my cake and eat it too.
 
Znegative said:
Most of the people I know that used to be hardcore IV users and have gone back to sniffing have the same reason: they don't have any more superficial veins that they can hit-or even worse, they have DVT.

For me there is really only one way not to use drugs intravenously, and that is to use drugs that have no benifit when injected (I.e. any Dextroamphetamine formula, benzodiazepines, propylhexadrine, GBL, Buprenorphine IMO is better used rectally, etc..). For instance, when I do finally quit using Needles, it will mean that I will have to never use: Opiates (all of them, because it will just lead back to heroin, Dilaudid, or any of the other ones that provide a rush), Methamphetamine, cocaine, and any other stim known to produce a 'rush' (I prefer stimulant rushes over opiate ones). I have already put an end to my cocaine use, and meth is so sparse here (as well as expensive), that its not a problem for me. I'm basically just trying to cut out the heroin.
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what i dont see how you think plugged buprenorphine is better than IV sub? once i shot up suboxone for the first time, it changed everything. i just dont get the same relief from snorting or plugging suboxone anymore.
 
Ever since I've IVd, I could never go back to other ROAs. Just the pure fact that I can get 100% Bioavailability and a much faster effect is the main reason why I've never went back to other ROAs. As long as everything is a water soluble salt, I will just about IV anything. Cocaine, meth, heroin, oxycodone, hydromorphone, and even MDMA. Even curious to try LSD through the intravenous route. It's a destructive habit though and sometimes curiosity kills the cat, in which case I'm the cat and I've gotten into trouble and problems due to IV use. For some, they can control it, but for a guy like me? As long as I have the drug, I will IV it until the bag is empty and then I was end up with some ugly ass marks on my arm.

All I'm going to say is this. For first time users. Discretion and caution is advised. Research and know the consequences.
 
I IV'd twice, morphine, about a year and a half ago, hydromorphone, about 7 months ago - I haven't done it again since for the exact reasons of "this is a special occasion and I can't do this often" and I'm perfectly happy taking things orally (insufflation isn't for me), but I'm not against doing it again in the future.

I guess if it was very infrequent it wouldn't be too difficult for a person to maintain that. It seems like somebody can do it once and be fine, and that doing it in succession over short periods of time is where the trouble begins because you get too used to it.
 
laCster said:
what i dont see how you think plugged buprenorphine is better than IV sub? once i shot up suboxone for the first time, it changed everything. i just dont get the same relief from snorting or plugging suboxone anymore.
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What do you get out of IV bupe? The majority of people, me included, report zero rush anyway.. just instant onset. Nothing to make IV more worth it than plugging or any other ROA.
 
Its definitely possible but moreso with someone who hasnt had a previous IV addiction. I know quite a few people who have a shot every now and then but pretty much all of them have kept it that way since they started using and they are mostly speed/ice users. Pretty much all the heroin injectors are regular users/addicts. I myself enjoy smoking meth just the same as IV'ing it but only ever IV heroin but due to the cost of heroin in Australia I couldnt see myself using it in any other way than IV, its just too expensive and IV is the most cost efficiant way of using it. Plus I love the whole ritual of mixing up, finding a vein and shooting it up, it will forever be ingrained deeply in my brains pleasure centre.

But for obvious reasons I wont introduce other people to IV'ing. So yeah I wouldnt risk trying to keep it to every now and then, too much risk of becoming full-blown addicted again or at all if you had never become addicted before. Once I started IV'ing things got to a whole new level of bad :/
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
What do you get out of IV bupe? The majority of people, me included, report zero rush anyway.. just instant onset. Nothing to make IV more worth it than plugging or any other ROA.
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Hmm well there is certainly no rush like cocaine or dilaudid, but there is there is definitely some resemblence of a rush. Could be more so the instant onset but sometimes going from zero to sixty feels like a rush. Idk I'm kind of at that point where like you said, I don't get much from IV vsother ROA but it just is hard as fuck to stop. IV bup has just a big jump in BA that makes it feel so much stronger. I am currently trying to switch to IM once I get more benzyl alcohol soln so I can make a 30ml microned sub vial and and then switch to plugging. I dislike the fact I have this habit but things don't change overnight yah know?

. Idk how u can tell someone what they feel isn't a valid feeling. That's like saying, 'im happy today'. And another person saying, 'oh you can't be happy because I'm sad'

I can easily find the study for you , and I think u know which one I'm talking about, where heroin addicts are given a shot of bupre and they recognize it falsely as being heroin .
 
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