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occasional IV?

Uber_Penguin said:
and chances are you aren't going to be able to take a responsible, non-addicted drug user and give them a needle and all of a sudden they're going to become a homeless bum sucking dick for money. I'm not sure how IVing has anything to do with not being able to maintain a normal life.

It just so happens that IV is the most efficient method while at the same time requiring a degree of self harm and patience/equipment collection, so as we all know it's the preferred method of those who are addicted and wouldn't have it together no matter what ROA they used. They don't have trouble living a normal life because they use needs, they have trouble living a normal life because they're addicted to drugs, and that's not going to change based upon how you take said drug
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yeah but the reason i was asking this is because sometimes people find one drug they love to IV and then just go out of control. like IV coke. you only shoot it for the rush that lasts 10 seconds, but its like an orgasm in your brain. imo its the best rush. and then you just kinda go out of control, and then it consumes your life.

i dont like coke when i sniff it. i think its pretty disappointing, but when i IV it im out of control and thats all i think about. go through 4 Gs in a day.. so thats why id be worried. if i went back to IVing i was just wondering if i would be able to control it, but id be shooting like dope, which i have NO problem with. so not saying the needle makes people homeless, i guess it is drugs, but imo IV is just better and if its coke i drop everything and run for it.
 
in the past year ive gone from being an every day iv user to an occasional user, mainly because ive been to broke to get any shit, but ive also been able to keep myself from doing anything stupid or illegal to get cash.
 
I've been IVing speed for >6 years now and so far doing just fine with everything, probably helped by the fact I'm only ever using speed for work not recreation. For the sake of statistics I've been running a calendar for the last couple of years and it shows on average I'm speeding for ~17 days per month, that also means I don't eat anything or sleep during this time. The rest of the days I might sleep a tad longer than normal (I've forgotten what "normal" is anyway) but this doesn't really get in the way of my responsibilities. I also smoke weed daily on the days I'm not speeding -- never mix them though, that'd be disgusting.

I must admit I got the needle fetish by large and had many beautiful experiences shared with fellow needle freaks over the years, and I also enjoy shocking people once in a while by injecting myself publicly. I only ever inject speed though (tried MDMA and few other things but never got hooked) although at times I enjoy a variety of drugs.

My only problem is I'm so thin it can hurt by the end of a longer speeding session. I try eating as much fat as possible but there's obviously no time for it to accumulate.. Possibly there's some vein damage building up as well although my sites look perfect from the outside, you just couldn't tell I'm an user.
 
My illicit drug of choice is meth - I've IV'd since the age of 17 (27 now) and have gone through various periods of addiction/abstinence. Over the last 2 years I've wound back my usage to once every 2 to 3 months....I have found it gets to the point where it's something I just don't want to do too often. It's almost like I set myself a challenge to not shoot any meth for as long a time as possible (can be up to 9 months) and the reward at the end is so much more satisfying. I think after a time the novelty factor wears rather thin also. Then again, quality, availability and consistency of meth (to myself anyway) in South Australia has taken a severe drop over the last few years, so I can't help but think this has had a hand in tapering off my usage.
 
i was a down n dirty no good dope shootin feen for years....but long story short i pretty much got forced into bein clean. probation, failed too many piss tests, was about to get a VOP so i begged till i got no jail and super intense supervision. too many tests to possibly use without gettin caught.

got on methadone and once my po trusted me again i used dope here there, like every few months at most. it took a long time to develop the discipline and willpower to just keep it occasional. At that point tho, i just KNEW that i ABSOLUTELY HAD TO keep it like that, there wasnt no fuckin option, no choice, so it was a lil easier. Anyways i kept it as a once in a while treat type of thing, got as much dope as i could do in one night, booted that shit til i was a noddin droolin mess, and then in the mornin woke up and just went right to my methadone and that was it til next time.

sone folks think that dont count cuz of bein on done.....but my bf did the same shit as me, usin when i did on some occasional shit, and he wasnt on no methadone. and he had spent the last 2 years shootin dope with me, so he was also a iv addict but he got clean without bein on done and was still able to shoot some d here n there without it becomin a problem...he wasnt on probation neither, so had no reason not to use more but he just didnt...it is p ossible but definatly not everyone can do it.
 
I've never IV'd. I've been curious about it since I was like 15. Never ran into the right environment for it. But now that I'm almost 22, I'm kinda glad I never did it, because I have such an addictive personality I know that I would most likely develop a serious problem.

As to the question, yes, I think it's possible for someone to occasionally IV and not have any problems, is that likely to persist over an extended period of time? Not likely, but nonetheless, still possible.
 
Personally once I started IV heroin it was over. Every single day use. Im married to that fucking needle. I would never ever recommend anyone ever start using a needle. I know no one that can manage a life IV'ing drugs without loosing everything, going to prison, dying, or becoming a full blown addict.
 
my first experience with a needle+drug was about a year ago. i had insufflated Heroin several times. i enjoyed it a lot. naturally became curious about what slamming it felt like so i gave it a try. i did it and liked it a lot. i've probably done it a handful of times since then. never got hooked or anything like that. don't get me wrong, IV Heroin is an amazing experience. for whatever reason, i'm able to totally handle it in moderation. on the other hand, you hand me a needle loaded with the love of my life, Dextro-AMP, i would probably get stuck on the needle until forever. anyhows, i guess my point is, for me, it's all about the substance. though, if i did acquire some micron filters i would probably do a little more experimenting. i kinda get a kick out of the whole IV'ing process. i've been awake too long. pardon me if this post sucks.
 
i used to shoot dope everyday 5-10x/day and have only been using IV heroin every 3 months or so on average for the past 2 years, but i'm on suboxone. i think it can be done, but i use the suboxone as a crutch to fall back on...
 
buddy iv'ed occaisionally, at first

dude i knew iv'ed occaisionally, was there with the dude when he hit the first nod, then he did it all the time really soon after that. downward spiral for about 3 months after, had to quit, did it cold turke

i ived a dilaudid once, got me huge, this was prob six months ago, first only time doing it, real crazy, ived a tiny bit of ron one time too actually, wasnt that good it was mostly water trying to get the most out of the last hit of ron i had (happened to be tiny as fuck, where snorting wouldnt have been an option anyway)

never done dope or it since, fuck needs
 
Honestly if you had a problem with IVing before and you are clean now...why the fuck would you want to play with fire again? Play with fire, you will get burnt - it's an old adage but a fucking true one. You WILL eventually suffer the negative consequences that come along with IV usage. I am so glad to be clean from a 5+ year IV heroin run and I know I can never slam anything ever again. I don't even try to fuck around with any drugs, I just smoke weed and stay on my MMT. If you are thinking about using again maybe consider MMT. It's not the answer for everyone - but I know that I would probably be in a much worse place without it. I was slamming 2-3 grams of powder a day (dope) not to even consider the other shit I was doing on top of it. To go from that, then being clean for over a year (but miserable as fuck from PAWS), to then get on the program and experience being stable on MMT it has made my life so much better.
 
If an individual were able to IV only occasionally, say, on the weekends, then that would be absolutely ideal. I take my heroin up the nose, but I know that this is somewhat wasteful. I could make a bundle last me twice as long if I were to IV it, and that would mean spending less money, etc.
 
I IV occasionally. IMHO there are two keys:
1- have little to no connects
2- don't keep needles around your home

With no drugs available and no needles to stumble across its pretty easy to IV occasionally. But if I had cash and connects I'd definitely be in trouble.

And 3-4 years ago I was shooting up at the very least 2x a day. So I think its possible for your drug use to evolve.
 
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1- have little to no connects
2- don't keep needles around your home
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i've thrown away a lot of my connects to help curb my IV use which was the most successful element in my plan to get away from it. at any one time i've got 100+ needles in my house and rarely get the temptation to load anything up.

craving the actual drug is my main problem.
 
It is not possible if you:

1. Have a great steady connect
2. Have the cash

You might start out using only occasionaly, but almost 100% of the time it will progress to constant use.

It also depends on your brain chemistry, and if you are at high risk for addiction. It also depends on how your current mental status is. If you are depressed and don't have much to lose, in my opinion, you will not be able to just use occasionally. I know I can't stop because

1. I have the cash
2. I have the connect or will find one fast
 
I've been IVing heroin every day for the past two months and my life has already become completely unmanageable. It happened so much faster than the 4 years I was sniffing. I have met a few people that can just stop using the needle when they know they are getting too comfortable with it but for me I wont even consider sniffing unless my veins are completely unusable.. Which has happened quite a few times already from not rotating sites. Anyway for me, occasional IV use is not possible..
 
In my experience you can have a "successful" life and IV. I knew a guy who worked full-time (construction) and IVed everyday. He was an addict but had things worked out. I used to, but I never really had things under control, I am one of those people if I have needles they'll be used.. Until I can't get anymore.
But the needle itself does become quite an addiction on its own as you may know. If you have a needle fixation thing going on and you've found, in the past, it wasn't working out then it may not this time... But people do change. The only way to know for sure it to try..
BUT if you go into it thinking it won't work then it probably won't, you know?
 
I do it all the time (switching from snorting/smoking/iving) I will only iv for about a day every 2-3 weeks but in that day i will prolly shoot up about 5 times and get the iv cravings out of my system then i will switch back to my normal routine for the next few weeks. I honestly hate having holes all over my arms, makes me feel like a piece of shit. I love to iv but in my mind its not worth it doing it all the time, too many risks involved and its not like you can iv anywhere anytime. I usually do my oc with buddies and most of them dont approve with the needle so i keep it to myself but those few days out of the month ill just kick it by myself and get fucked up with my needle and I :)
 
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