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occasional IV?

well its good to see that some people can do it. i did tar for the first time yesteday and fuck man it is so not as good as east coast powder. and fuck man when you sniff that it burns like HELL. I wanna try shooting it, but i just dont know if it would stay occasional.

dieselbaby said:
If you are thinking about using again maybe consider MMT. It's not the answer for everyone - but I know that I would probably be in a much worse place without it.
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as for mmt..my main problem was NEVER dope. i have done dope a million times in a million different ways, and its still just not my doc. so i think mmt would be a little silly. its a nice idea, and my bf was on subs for about a year and a half, but he finally just got off of it, and im not interested at all. plus i have no insurance. having some subs around probably isnt a bad idea though.

i dont know if i have a needle obbsession. i guess ill just have to wait and see. i think were gonna stick with pills for now, fuck tar dude. i just hope things go for the best. i think IV was only a problem when we started shooting coke, but the tricky thing with IV is that once you start shooting one thing, you shoot every drug.
 
It is possible. I have only been regularly IVing one drug for a long time. Any other IV drug experiences I have, have been on an occasional basis.

stoneydaze08 said:
Personally once I started IV heroin it was over. Every single day use. Im married to that fucking needle. I would never ever recommend anyone ever start using a needle. I know no one that can manage a life IV'ing drugs without loosing everything, going to prison, dying, or becoming a full blown addict.
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but you don't know everyone, so because you know 10, 100, 1,000 people like this, doesn't mean everyone is.
 
Welcome to the IV club

I have been a member of this forum for along time, and learned more then I can ever imagine. I am a casual but regular drug user. I keep myself clean but 1-2x a week I usually dabble my hands in something. I wasn't going to IV until I knew I was mentally prepared (2-3 years from now), but I have run into some situations and I IV'd heroin for the first time about 3 months ago. Since then I have IV'd heroin about once every 2 weeks, sometimes once a week the past two months, but I refuse to allow myself to get addicted to anything mentally or physically. Usually I run into these situations when I am exhausted from work, being up for 20+ hours and I just want to relax, so I hit up some friends and do some drugs and chill for the night.

Basically I want to hear if anybody has had similar situations to me and If anybody is a totally casual IV user. Unfortunately all my friends dabble into drugs far more then they should and they have problems that will only will take time (a few weeks) before the drugs take over their life. Has anybody here been a casual IV drug user only using 1-2x a month for multiple years, or has it grown into a serious problem? I absolutely do not suggest any sort of IV drug use as I am yet to meet anybody where it hasn't ended up in a classic rock-bottom situation. I am curious though; I think it is really productive for other members of this forum and myself to post their story of having IV drug use slowly but surely take over their life. I have a very harm-reduction approach, but should I quit while I am ahead, or does it always end in a typical drug-addict plot?

I'm not really sure what I am asking, but I am curious about what anybody has to say about their beginning stages of IV drug use. I would appreciate it :)
 
Hmm.

My answer goes like this...

I 'was' addicted to IV oxycodone/hydromorphone/heroin for a long time. Did some time, went to rehab. Went back to rehab. Went to detox. Went to a couple AA/NA meetings.

I found the only thing to really help with that issue was MDMA, and possibly ketamine (both used IV).

I have only dabble with IV Ketamine, MDMA and a few other stimulants, very infrequently after leaving my last detox.

It is just my preferred ROA.

Just gotta stay away from the painkillers.
 
whippa craka said:
I have been a member of this forum for along time, and learned more then I can ever imagine. I am a casual but regular drug user. I keep myself clean but 1-2x a week I usually dabble my hands in something. I wasn't going to IV until I knew I was mentally prepared (2-3 years from now), but I have run into some situations and I IV'd heroin for the first time about 3 months ago. Since then I have IV'd heroin about once every 2 weeks, sometimes once a week the past two months, but I refuse to allow myself to get addicted to anything mentally or physically. Usually I run into these situations when I am exhausted from work, being up for 20+ hours and I just want to relax, so I hit up some friends and do some drugs and chill for the night.

Basically I want to hear if anybody has had similar situations to me and If anybody is a totally casual IV user. Unfortunately all my friends dabble into drugs far more then they should and they have problems that will only will take time (a few weeks) before the drugs take over their life. Has anybody here been a casual IV drug user only using 1-2x a month for multiple years, or has it grown into a serious problem? I absolutely do not suggest any sort of IV drug use as I am yet to meet anybody where it hasn't ended up in a classic rock-bottom situation. I am curious though; I think it is really productive for other members of this forum and myself to post their story of having IV drug use slowly but surely take over their life. I have a very harm-reduction approach, but should I quit while I am ahead, or does it always end in a typical drug-addict plot?

I'm not really sure what I am asking, but I am curious about what anybody has to say about their beginning stages of IV drug use. I would appreciate it :)
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@Tommyboy
Thanks

The sound of an opiate problem sends chills down my spine. Once I allowed myself to use them heavy for only 3 days. Just the void space you feel the day after is something I never want to have creep up on me again. I have enough to worry about, let alone some drug being on your mind all the time. The thought of how much a true addiction could hold me back in the long run keeps me away. I never go out and make a purchase on my own. I only have touched the needle with friends around and I plan to keep it that way. I promised to never buy a pack of cigarretes with my fraternity during my first year of college and I still have not -- but I will glady bump a boge at a party lol.

It's a great logic.... if you can actually stick to it. Are you really a smoker if you never buy a pack of cigarettes (thinking long term)? How hard would it be to let an IV drug problem develop week after week if you don't do it unless your chilling with your friends on the weekend? Sometimes I may IV 2-3 times in a week, but the thought of even reaching day #3 will keep me away from the goodies for weeks. It's not rationalization to do the drugs.... but it sure is a good way to keep a level head and get the best of all worlds.

This forum has definitely saved a future drug addict, me.

I thank this forum for this kind of approach. Otherwise I wouldn't even want to know who'd I be hangin with right now.
 
I've never regretted IVing a drug. For most drugs I tried it with it wasn't that great tbh. It's nice with MDMA crystals, amphetamines, cocaine, opiates and ketamine (I both like IM and IV ketamine alot, most often I'll go for IM though!)

I've injected amphetamines and some other opioides before as well and those were not at all

I am able to use needles very rarely, usually not even 1 syringe/month in total.. :)
 
Never met anyone who could pull it off for more than a couple years... forget about people who have already been down the road of hardcore addiction.. it's even harder then to limit your usage. The idea of the long-term "weekend warrior" IV drug user is one of the prime, if not the prime, reason people relapse or end up becoming full blown addicts.. because they think that if they give it a hard enough shot.. that they can defy the odds and maintain control. Just search around this site and read the posts from people who have been here a while to see just how well that's worked out for them..
 
I believe i have become 100% responsible and completely occasional IV user. I smoke weed daily 2gs/daily+ and I personally enjoy and use pretty much all classes of drugs. Opiates, Stimulants, psychs, benzos, etc. The drugs I mainly IV now are Meth and opiates. I never have had a problem with IV meth, just because one shot and you're tweeked all day. I only have problems with IV use where redosing is needed often.

I completely ruined my life to IV cocaine Jail, incredible amounts of debt, etc. Only drug that doesn't get anywhere close to my bloodstream now. Having an IV problem with one drug in my opinion doesn't mean you cant use another responsibly.
 
Never Knows Best said:
I only occasionally IV, but mainly because I only occasionally use IV-able drugs.
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I only occasionally IV. I don't like using that route but I had to try it with respect to a couple of drugs (cocaine, heroin) and ended up testing another couple for good measure (oxycodone, morphine). I can see myself using that route of administration again, but certainly not very often. I'm damn sure never shooting cocaine again, and I'm not shooting anything without a scale accurate to the milligram.

I've shot up 16 times - granted, all in the space of a year - but I'm pretty sure I've done most of my experimentation and will rarely resort to it again. I definitely won't shoot anything that can be adequately and efficiently administered via another ROA.
 
HxC MADxMAN said:
I was only going to IV once to see what it was like. Didn't get the rush that i was expecting so i tried again a week later. Same results, tried again the next week. Started IV every couple of days, and now it's been everyday for the past 4 weeks.

It's definitely possible to do it occasionally, but with my personality, the whole process of prepping and registering a shot has me hooked right now.
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I don't think only using for 4 weeks can justify a response claiming it's possible to do it occasionally... many people can do it sporadically for the first few weeks or months or even couple years maybe (though quite unlikely) but talk to me after a period of several years... most people are no longer "casually shooting up" at that point. Of course, what you are choosing to IV makes a large difference. If your thing is RC's or something and not an incredibly addicting substance like opiates or cocaine.. It could work out differently. But, standard IV drugs don't usually lend themselves well to occasional IV'ing...
 
Most of the people I know that used to be hardcore IV users and have gone back to sniffing have the same reason: they don't have any more superficial veins that they can hit-or even worse, they have DVT.

For me there is really only one way not to use drugs intravenously, and that is to use drugs that have no benifit when injected (I.e. any Dextroamphetamine formula, benzodiazepines, propylhexadrine, GBL, Buprenorphine IMO is better used rectally, etc..). For instance, when I do finally quit using Needles, it will mean that I will have to never use: Opiates (all of them, because it will just lead back to heroin, Dilaudid, or any of the other ones that provide a rush), Methamphetamine, cocaine, and any other stim known to produce a 'rush' (I prefer stimulant rushes over opiate ones). I have already put an end to my cocaine use, and meth is so sparse here (as well as expensive), that its not a problem for me. I'm basically just trying to cut out the heroin.
 
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