Obama honest about drug use as a youth

^ It would still mean more if he admitted to it. An entire generation of new voters has now grown up with presidents that have admitted to at least trying drugs. Not admitting to using is, in this day and age, a big minus sign for any candidate, especially one so pompous to say that everyone is going to be naturally able to control themselves in a drug-war-free world. Not that I agree with that latter part, but hey, you just gotta look at it from every angle. Show me an AA/NA member and I'll show you someone who wont be voting for Ron Paul, I'd bet.

Obama, on the other hand, well, he understands, he wants to decriminalize, get people treatment, maybe, is how they might justify him in their drunk on sobriety ego-tripping mindsets.
 
i pray obama will become the next US president and i think he'd be a fool to say he'd like to decriminalise marijuana now - it would definitely cost him heaps of votes. he might still do something about it later.

voting libertarian is perhaps a sound move but evey libertarian vote is a vote lost to the democrats and thus a bonus point for the republicans because only a tiny minority is gonna vote libertarian anyway

2 reasons why i fear he might not win the election is that he sounds eerily like osama (bin laden -the terrorist puppet that comes outta the bush box once in a while) and that he is black. how many racist whites will not vote for him because of that?

but i'm european, what do i know...
 
methadon3000 said:
In the U.S.A. elections are meaningless. THE PRESIDENT CHANGES, NOT THE REGIME. The only thing that elections change is the face of the president but the sytem and regime will always be the same.

us foreign policy was very different under clinton than before or after. and i think some interior things were also more chilled - no?
 
yes, the Bush regime began cutting everything, the NSA, the FBI, even the Pentagon. 9-11 could have been prevented. The Iraq war was based on faulty intelligence. The Army Corps of Engineers Specialized Peacekeeping and Rebuilding Force had been dismantled back in early '01.

Lets face it, if we had a liberal government, we'd all be alot better off.
 
junctionalfunkie said:
He's got my vote.

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ditto <3
 
mulberryman said:
yes, the Bush regime began cutting everything, the NSA, the FBI, even the Pentagon. 9-11 could have been prevented. The Iraq war was based on faulty intelligence. The Army Corps of Engineers Specialized Peacekeeping and Rebuilding Force had been dismantled back in early '01.

Lets face it, if we had a liberal government, we'd all be alot better off.

The Iraq war was based on 9/11... lets be serious... we had to go get the "terrorists."
 
^yeah, and we still will in Afghanistan, maybe even Pakistan, since they seemed to maybe crossed the borders there, but not a one of them was from IRAQ!!??!!??!!
 
You must not know much about the Bilderberg Group or the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations).

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDR4cJVYnA8

Obama is a part of these groups, he was appointed as the AFRICAN-AMERICAN CANDIDATE FOR A REASON. TO DISTRACT AFRICAN-AMERICANS FROM THE CANDIDATE THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY WANT (NO IRS, NO CIA, NO FBI, PRO-CANNABIS) RON PAUL. THE SAME WAY HILLARY WAS APPOINTED TO DISTRACT ALL THE WOMAN.

OPEN YOUR EYES, THIS IS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT, THEY HAVE EVERY POSSIBLE ANGLE COVERED AND ALL POSSIBLE SCENARIOS PRE-DETERMINED.

It's so blatantly obvious that anyone that cannot see it... is getting played out just like the entire African-American community. Oh and all the woman too...

Also as a side-note, DeadHeads for Obama? What is that a joke? What real dead head who eats fungi like it's his job hasn't already figured out what I said above and is already for Ron Paul? Real hippies, they don't sell out to the obvious.
 
^ Well what good does it do to sell out to the impossible (even if one doesn't consider voting for a 75-year old pro-life Texas congressman selling out) Not all Dead-Heads are career microtopics who sit around all day bummin' about how the world's coming to an end. Some of us actually care about the fate of our country, care enough to not be so idealist to waste our vote on someone who'd never have a chance since, you said it yourself, they've already got every possible ablge covered. Might as well pick a winner, since good things do happen. Last week while a yound charismatic Democrat was speaking in Dallas, the secret service decided they didn't have enough men to control the crowd in the city of grassy knolls and guess what, nothing bad happened. ..oh, and, did I mention he was black? Did I even have to?

I've said it before all those rich corporate ("Zionist"/"Jews"/"American Great Satan"/"Whatever")'s can keep all that money and power, it really only brings misery and grief, and in the end they can't take it with them.

For us, the one thing we CAN take with us when we leave this Earth is in knowing that our planet will be a better place after we're gone than it was when we came into it.
 
mulberryman said:
waste our vote on someone...

I stopped reading here...

Listen, just because you watch Faux News doesn't necessarily mean you already know who's got it in the bag. Media is entertainment buddy, that includes the newspaper, THEY ARE NOT VALID SOURCES. Regardless, If you actually payed attention to what I was saying, you would have realized that by you voting for Obama, Hillary, McCain, wait lets keep going Guiliani, Romney, Bill Clinton, Bush Sr. , Bush Jr. , or even John Kerry; you're voting THE SAME EXACT REGIME INTO OFFICE, AS WELL AS THE SAME EXACT RESULT... maybe you want to wait around until 2012 "mister I care so much about the world," but I don't. This isn't a game anymore, whether you'd like to believe it or not. It's not oh well, hit or miss, with this election. It's RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THE CHANCE, to vote the right guy into office, his name is Ron Paul. It's clearly the obvious choice, so obvious that people are dismissing it because they don't believe it.

You wanted change, you got it. It was actually created because the law of attraction decided to dream up the perfect candidate for America, and yet people are letting it slip through their fingers as if it is nothing. If the Giants can beat the Patriots, American citizens can beat the government; right now. They have been planning for this election for years. Fucking years. If you really think for a brief moment they're going to give us our freedom, then you must have forgotten what the past 30 or so years have been like; the same ignorant people like you, who live in Tornado Alley, are the same people voting the Bush's into office; four freakin times.

So look, you can dismiss me because I like taking an extreme stance. However, I'm not one to beat around the bush, waiting for the last minute to see if ALL THE PROPHECIES ARE TRUE. Don't take my word for it though.
 
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you know how much ammo that would give anyone anti-democrat/anti-negro if our first black president legalized weed. too much....too much.
 
BiG StroOnZ said:
Listen, just because you watch Faux News

I almost stopped reading right there, but I refuse to be a fundamentalist (someone who doesn't listen) and even if that means considering a whole century of open warfare as a good thing, then so be it.

You're4 right, it doesn't matter who you waste your vfote on, BECAUSE YOUR VOTE DOESN"T REALLY COUNT. the system is rigged.

Obama has already lost. Hillary will too, I doubt she'll even carry my home state of Michigan. Frankly we're all sick of stupid women leaders that haven't the foggiest clue about how to run things up here.

To the guy that said something about giving the Klan traction by legalizing weed or something, you really need to do some more research cause you really con't know what your talking about.

In any case, America is not a democracy, and while race doesn't really matter, anyone living in areas predominately black, hispanic, or even just impoverished and overpopulated are the first on the voting slate to be wiped out by our corporate masters. the rst of the country MIGHT have a slightly better chance of getting their voice heard, but that slight chance is diminishing by the hour.

No Libertarian, no Independent, no Ron Paul, no Ralph Nader, no Ross Perot is ever gonna be "elected", because THIS COUNTRY IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

If you're really interested in having a democracy again (if you believe there ever was one, it really doesn't matter at this point) then draw your attention to this post.
 
mulberryman said:
because THIS COUNTRY IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.

And you ever stop to think maybe you're the reason why...

You're just another Doubting Tom, always talking about the government this the government that, but never actually does a damn thing about it. Just complains and complains, "the government owns us and we can't stop it," type of guy. Well that's you, you want to be a negative whiny little bitch, than so be it. The rest of us REAL AMERICANS are tired of that same old mindset that has us going nowhere.

Fuck hope, take action... Ron Paul is here to stay, he ain't going anywhere dude. He's made more donation money than John McCain, Hillary, and Obama in the past 3 months combined. So look if you're putting Ross and Nader in the same category as Paul, then again, YOU CLEARLY WATCH TOO MUCH FOX NEWS. Paul isn't your run of the mill, independent no chance of winning candidate, the media sources just have you believing that with their BLATANT BULLSHIT. Notice how you haven't heard ANYTHING about the Republicans in quite some time? All the news sources are keeping the focus on the Democrats, as if the Republican nominee is already determined (...But in reality they don't even know wtf is going on) LOL

So keep on keepin on, whatever it is that you consider yourself doing, but I'll tell you what your not doing... Promoting any sort of change. Limit yourself to what the system gives you, and you will continue to remain in the system...

Looks like you want another 4 years of Bush by the way you're talking.
 
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^blah blah blah... You obviously don't read many of my posts, otherwise you'd know I don't even get Fox News (at least not until after 4am and before sunrise, and then its reeeealy fuzzy), due to a particularly odd glitch of my Comcast® Cablevision that I have attributed to possibly the last bastion of hope in the corporate world.

You, my friend, obviously haven't watched enough Google Video documentaries since you think that Ron Paul, or anyone the people may chose to lead them can actually be "voted" into office.

THE VOTE IS RIGGED. period.
 
mulberryman said:
^blah blah blah... You obviously don't read many of my posts, otherwise you'd know I don't even get Fox News (at least not until after 4am and before sunrise, and then its reeeealy fuzzy), due to a particularly odd glitch of my Comcast® Cablevision that I have attributed to possibly the last bastion of hope in the corporate world.

You, my friend, obviously haven't watched enough Google Video documentaries since you think that Ron Paul, or anyone the people may chose to lead them can actually be "voted" into office.

THE VOTE IS RIGGED. period.

I understand your frustration with HOW OBVIOUS it is that the system is rigged. However, do not be let down because, IT DOESN'T MATTER! The Ron Paul supporters have infiltrated the system... TRUST ME, I KNOW %)

You must not understand exactly how the Election works, so lets break it down, compliments of www.DAILYPAUL.com

I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and i am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so i know what i am talking about.

If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here :

http://www.gop.com/images/2008_Call_FINAL.pdf

PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THIER EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.

I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.
I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.

Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?

The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.

I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.

First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.

Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.

When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates

The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.

And we have lots of delegates.

Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September-
-463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.

- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.

- 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.

- 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.

I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here :

http://www.gop.com/Images/AllStateSummaries.pdf

Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?

So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.

This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.

The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?

This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.

Now i assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.

Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?

NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE

POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.

Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.

So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!

The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.

NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Info on how to become a delegate here :

http://www3.webng.com/ronpaul/delegatestates.html

-- Dr. Steve Parent
 
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