Obama honest about drug use as a youth

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All that will do is take votes away from the democrats, do you want a republican in office more than Hillary or Obama?
 
no i dont want a democrat in office more, but why should i vote for someone i dont want in office just to keep someone i want even less

i dont trust any of them anyways
 
I didn't know you liked the republicans more. I'm not really big into politics, but it's not an all-or-nothing sport from my understanding.
 
i just dont care for politicians or politics , the only thing ive found that sounded half ass ok was libertarians

too bad theyre unknown
 
Time lags.

The trouble with issues and politics is the time lag between when a subject like this is raised, and the time it takes for anything political to happen.
Like Kennedy knew early on that he ought to deal with civil rights and the race issue. But he had a whole load of other issues that he felt under pressure to deal with before them and he let them sadly slip in his priorities quite a bit sometimes. So it is with Obama and the drugs issue. It's a sticky issue with the voters, and there are plenty of more clean cut issues with which to make his bid for the big chair appealing, before he might get anywhere near thinking about drugs.
His admission is just media management/ pre-emptive damage limitation. I/you/we all know if the issue matters to us or not, but there just aren't enough of us to make our votes worth pitching for at this moment in history.
No sane politician who is playing the game would campaign on it. Much as I have found Terrence McKenna's books entertaining, even I would be a little disturbed if he were president, so imagine how the general public would view a political candidate who ranked drug related civil liberties as equal to, say the race issue or poverty for example.
Politics just moves too slowly behind many cultural phenomen as they arise. Which makes it all rather frustrating that you still have to scuttle about surreptitiously to score your stash.
Peace and love - PippUK
 
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They won't. The way Obama worded it in his book, he made it look as though he was flirting with the dangerous path a typical young black man is likely to take. Attacking his drug use would be like attacking him because he's black, is probably what Hillary's team of consultants are telling her.. Even if he was white, attacking him because of his drug problem is like an open invitation to play dirty in public debates, and that would be "politics as usual." "Voters want to hear about the issues" is basically a tagline for both campaigns. And besides, Hillary doesn't want to play too dirty. It's not too hard to paint a dirty picture of her character as a whole, whereas Barack Obama did drugs... ammunition depleted.
 
there are three candidates who would try to legalize. dennis kucinich, mike gravel, and ron paul

none of them has any chance of winning. kucinich already dropped out
 
As far as drug policy goes, Obama is our best bet. He may not have the comprehensive reforms in mind that some of us would like to see, but those sorts of reforms aren't going to come over night, and the only candidates who have such radical views will never win. The best we can hope for is a mainstream candidate, like Obama, who takes the drug issue as progressively as he can and still having a chance at winning the election. While we probably won't see legal marijuana while Obama is still president, his victory will mark a positive course in the evolution of America's drug policy.
 
captainballs said:
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They won't. The way Obama worded it in his book, he made it look as though he was flirting with the dangerous path a typical young black man is likely to take. Attacking his drug use would be like attacking him because he's black, is probably what Hillary's team of consultants are telling her.. Even if he was white, attacking him because of his drug problem is like an open invitation to play dirty in public debates, and that would be "politics as usual." "Voters want to hear about the issues" is basically a tagline for both campaigns. And besides, Hillary doesn't want to play too dirty. It's not too hard to paint a dirty picture of her character as a whole, whereas Barack Obama did drugs... ammunition depleted.
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not to mention that they tried to attack bush for having a DUI and having used cocaine and marijuana and bush still won the election. plus bush wasn't even as honest about his drug use, answering questions about whether he had used cocaine with comments like "i have not used an illegal substance since 1974". obama may have used cocaine but at least he doesn't have a criminal record. if it didn't work against bush, i highly doubt it would work against obama and i think people appreciate his honesty more than bush's attempts at avoiding the subject.
 
IAmJacksUserName said:
As far as drug policy goes, Obama is our best bet. He may not have the comprehensive reforms in mind that some of us would like to see, but those sorts of reforms aren't going to come over night, and the only candidates who have such radical views will never win. The best we can hope for is a mainstream candidate, like Obama, who takes the drug issue as progressively as he can and still having a chance at winning the election. While we probably won't see legal marijuana while Obama is still president, his victory will mark a positive course in the evolution of America's drug policy.
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amen!
 
I agree that Obama is drug users' best opportunity because he's electable. People that make a big deal about legalizing drugs as part of their platform aren't qualified to work in Washington because they obviously don't understand how to play politics.

In the privacy of his own home, I bet Barack and his wife (a highly accomplished and intelligent person, like Obama) see the ridiculous waste of money that is the drug war, and especially how it hurts black people disproportionately. I'm anxious to see what kinds of Supreme Court justices Obama puts in power.
 
youarewhatyouis said:
so when are they going to use this against him?
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This question has already been answered unquestionably in my opinion; whoever gets the Democratic nomination will face the dirty politics and slandering of McCain.

We already got a slight dose of twice; once against a member of his own party and more recently now that Obama seems like a probable opponent.

McCain insisted, days before the Florida primary (before Romney had any sufficient time to respond) that Romney has said in the past that he favors timetables for withdrawal from Iraq, which is definitely not true. Romney referred to this kind of dirty rhetoric as "reprehensible", and I agree with him. McCain kept on parroting this idea until Romney eventually lost much support.

Recently, he suggested that the Dems were likely to support a position in Iraq that is tantamount to giving up and that they're soft and weak against terrorism.

Given McCains record to mouth off any accusation against his rivals whether it be true or not, I would expect more of the same against any Democratic opponent. I forecast a very dirty campaign on the Republican side.

And like people said, at least with Obama we'll have a President who won't be harsher on drugs than the current administration, even if he keeps the status quo. I don't exactly trust Hillary, especially taking into consideration her mini crusade against violent video games a while back.
 
junctionalfunkie said:
He's got my vote.

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i sure hope that is a joke....god i hope that is a joke.
 
captainballs said:
I agree that Obama is drug users' best opportunity because he's electable. People that make a big deal about legalizing drugs as part of their platform aren't qualified to work in Washington because they obviously don't understand how to play politics.

In the privacy of his own home, I bet Barack and his wife (a highly accomplished and intelligent person, like Obama) see the ridiculous waste of money that is the drug war, and especially how it hurts black people disproportionately. I'm anxious to see what kinds of Supreme Court justices Obama puts in power.
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Well said, we can only hope.
 
"not much from McCain, who is as militant about the war on drugs as he is about the war in Iraq. He favors increasing the penalties for selling drugs, the death penalty for drug kingpins, and even restricting the availability of methadone to heroin addicts. While he supports expanding federal education and treatment programs, he opposes making marijuana available for medical reasons."

what a fuckin psycho... I hope the USA has learnt their lesson with Bush... Republican party are a bunch of corrupt power hungry sociopaths...

Vote Obama...
 
did it actually say he admitted to flirting with heroin at one point in his life?
i'd have to hear him say that before i'd believe he admitted to that.
that sounds like the type of thing that could seriously hurt an election.
 
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