On another note (I obviously don't want names or anything) but is this stuff still around? The 2 or 3 sources I knew for it have stopped carrying it. Again, I don't want sources, just to know if it is still being purchased by members of this board.
I only placed my first order after someone (it may even have been you) said that the one lab manufacturing it was no longer doing so. Since then I have placed another order and I placed another order today. Both order I have recieved thus far have been of excellent quality (is most definately not cut) and conform to Negrogesic's posts/dosage guidelines (I am in a similiar position to him) as well as his evaluation of the drug being best compared to pethedine both in effect and potency.
Without going into any details, it is still being carried by atleast one long-standing and highly reputable European vendor. However, as most Bluelighters are in the states, it should be noted that this particular vendor has a policy of not dealing with Americans/shipping to the US- so maybe the downturn in activity in this thread is more due to it being unavailable to Americans (although I'm fairly sure you're European...) than it being completely unavailable. However this vendor describes themselves as having a 'small quantity' so I doubt that it will continue to be available for that much longer- although if any vendor would be able to find an alternative lab to synth more it'd be these guys, so who knows? Fingers crossed boys...
As for this stuff causing hallucinations...well, all opiates cause a sort of OEV/CEV occasionally when nodding, those are the 'pipe dreams' people would talk about with regards to opium. Some people seem to be more prone to them than others, some people only have CEV. I experience a mixture, however OEV are considerably rarer than the CEV which generally take the form of strange symbollic 'mind movies' as I nod. I've had pipe dreams while nodding on o-desmethyltramadol, but I'd say that they're far more common with morphine (pharmacutical or any natural source- opium, poppy tea, poppy wash) than with any synthetic or even semi-synthetic opiate (including heroin, despite 'just' being a morphine pro-drug).
However, as this stuff is an RC and it is probably being obtained from a source that also sells a wide variety of extremely potent (dosage wise) psychedelics, so there is also the possibility of the cross-contamination of your O-Desmethyltramadol with some psychedelic, for instance a 2C or a substituted Tryptamine. It really comes down to how much do you trust yourself and your awareness of your own body chemistry (that it is causing psychedelic effects rather than it just being perfectly normal 'pipe dreams') and how much do you trust your vendor not to fuck up and accidently get some weird-ass psychedelic mixed in with your opiates? If you have any doubts flush that shit, it's just not worth it- you might have been lucky so far and only have taken small amounts, but there could be a big god-awful hotspot of 2C-P just waiting to be scooped up with some desmethyltramadol and snorted...even if it doesn't do you any harm, you don't need that shit in your life.
