No effects with 5k test count...

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I was doing 100 of Prop EOD and 250 of Test E 2x/week for 4 weeks. I felt nothing at all. No pumps, no íncreased mental state, no negative effects(oily skin, acne, etc.), nothing. I was eating less than maintance as I was continuing a cut and wasn't planning to go crazy with my diet until I felt it 'kick in.' So no real gains were observed either.

I was pretty positive my gear was bunk, but I went and got tested right after I stopped the cycle. A week later I just got the results. I was a surprised with the results to put it lightly.

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Probably a little higher than it should of been, but I was waiting to feel SOMTHING before I dropped the Prop. Does anyone else have this effect to test?
 
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Of course you didn't make any gains. You were eating less than maintenance and it sounds like your training wasn't on point and you lack the proper foundation. It also sounds like your gear was bunk.

Take it as a lesson learned.
 
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Of course you didn't make any gains. You were eating less than maintenance and it sounds like your training wasn't on point and you lack the proper foundation. It also sounds like your gear was bunk.

Take it as a lesson learned.
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Obviously I wasn't expecting to make gains on a calorie deficit, as I implied in my post.

I'm not sure where you got the idea I don't have a proper base and routine. I've been working out for 5 and a half years and am 5'11" 205 lbs. natural.

Does a total test count of 4,900 strike you as something obtainable naturally?
 
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did you notice increased libido?
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No, nothing out of the norm.


One 'abnormality' in my situation is that I was an amphetamine addict for 2 years, up until about a month before starting my cycle.

I'm still recovering from the neurotoxic effects exerted on dopamine receptors and hence wouldn't probably experience the dopamine-enduced euphoria users get on gear. The reasoning for the lack of other effects is still a mystery.

Despite my 'personal problems' and going days without eating on a frequant basis I still managed to maintain a decent physique. This was me about 2 weeks prior to starting my cycle. I was unpumped in this picture.

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I feel your pain bro. I don't respond to test cyp at all. My body lacks esterase enzyme to break down the cyp ester. I have talked to many people about this with the same problem like 12 of em and most were on trt from the doc. They say only test prop woworks. on theme
 
Not one said that test prop does not work. Maybe test e. Is legit and prop is bunk? You should only run the prop and get tested again. To see if prop is legit.
 
Then if the prop is legit then you might be shit out of luck bro. If that is the case please tell us your history as in natty test levels. Are a feminine person like you lack androgens? Maybe you have androgen receptor issue.
 
My fault for making all these posts phones acting funny. Any way bro when you started test e and prop did get light ach in the kidney and liver in the first 2 weeks? Also the best thing to do is start the prop only at like 300 a week. Sometimes it takes 5 to six weeks to feel. After 3 weeks on prop get tested to see if it ls legit.
 
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Is it possible that you are lacking in esteraze enzyme therefore you have a mass off esterified test built up in your system which the blood test actually tested for... NOW that makes some sense super high test levels on paper but no effects. Are you nuts atrophied BTW? (Smaller)
 
The labs show that your gear is fine. Testosterone is very mild in terms of side-effects. Most people feel more confident, a little euphoric and have higher libido on test but those effects are rather subtle (especially compared to recreational drugs). Some people may not feel anything at all even at 850mg/week.

I would continue/restart the cycle but this time EAT! You should notice a notable increase in strength and size within a few weeks.
 
Bro just drop the test e and run the prop at 2 to 300 a week. And then get it tested if its legit.

My theory you dont respond to long esters and your prop is fake.

Also have you ever taken a antispcycotic before?
 
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I feel your pain bro. I don't respond to test cyp at all. My body lacks esterase enzyme to break down the cyp ester. I have talked to many people about this with the same problem like 12 of em and most were on trt from the doc. They say only test prop woworks. on theme
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I've not heard this before but will reserve judgement upon receipt of further information... The blood results would suggest a hell of a lot of testosterone IS getting into the blood stream, this might lead me to believe the above information is incorrect...
I don't feel a lot from just a test only cycle anyway, I might suggest you increase your calories, and if adopting a correct training protocol stick with it, you will get stronger & you will grow.... It never happens in a couple of weeks, its months & years of dedication, thats why so many people give up.....
 
Its true trust me I have gone trough hell. As to why cyp was not working. All ester and test level is more then meets the eye. Its a lot more complicated then it looks. Test is test saying is wrong cause the ester comes before the test. Everyone responds different to different ester some different are minor that you notice and for others like me you don't respond at all LOL. About the high test levels I thing certain kinds of labs pick up the estrophied test also.
 
Thats what I would have thought that the lab would have measured test not still esterified test... But would explain a lot
 
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Its true trust me I have gone trough hell. As to why cyp was not working. All ester and test level is more then meets the eye. Its a lot more complicated then it looks. Test is test saying is wrong cause the ester comes before the test. Everyone responds different to different ester some different are minor that you notice and for others like me you don't respond at all LOL. About the high test levels I thing certain kinds of labs pick up the estrophied test also.
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I eagerly await a response from Voxide...!!!
 
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