Thanks! TMP's original TR made me really inspired to write some of mine down, especially in this thread as the correlated to his experience's.
I really do want to write a TR for my 100mg IV MDA trip, so I will have to get around to writing it down, at least a little bit more in depth.
Hey Captain H - I hope you don'tmind - I'm bringing my response to your last PM out into the open, sp others can share.
Looks like the same peoplethat liked my original Gascid Post are into your writing style, too. That's great - keep 'em coming. I'm going to start a neat and dandy DMT thread soon. DMT is worthy of it's own thread. Here's my reply...
Captain.Heroin said:
Anyways I am rambling, but yeah I am 100% sure there was no mix up. DMT goes for way more than the MDA did ($20 for 200mg) and also it felt like a MD molecule when I too it orally. IV was a whole other world for real! Crazy shit man.
Hey - Of course I believe you and trust your certainty - it's just that I have never ever heard anything like this before - and it sounds like something I would want to try - but perhaps with someone else around -= just so I don't do something too reckless.
If you ever did DMT, you would never have any doubts about what you were doing if you did it again. For one - you have to smoke it (You can IV it too, but it needs to be the Hydrochloride salt, and not the Free Base). I'd actually like to try IVing it (or IM would probably work too) because when you smoke it, it tastes and smells like burning plastic. It's fucking *horrible* - and it's the thing that makes me pull back from the pipe, cause it feels like the shit it burning my lungs (It is, however, completely harmless [... well, asd far as breathing in *any* smoke goes]).
When you smoke a full hit pf DMT, by the time your lungs are full of smoke, you can hear a roar approaching you. About 20 - 30 seconds after you take the hit, you hear a sound that's something like the sound of the Universe being torn in two, and then you are gone.
For the next 5 minutes, what you experience has got pretty much *nothing* in common with the Universe that you normally live in. It's barely possible to describe the DMT experience as there is pretty much nothing in *this* life to compare it against. There's just no frame of reference. You go to 'another universe' that has a completely different set of rules - in every way - to this one. Your Ego is annihilated - you completely and instantly lose all sense of 'self - both mentally and physically. You cannot control or fight it - and trying to will just make the experience more uncomfortable.
I would say that my first *full* DMT experience - the first time I really 'crossed over' was up to that point the most terrifying experience of my life - and when I returned, when the jumble of perceptions started to appear in some ways familiar - when I became aware again of my corporeal existence - remembered that I was a sentient animal life-form - that I had a body.. when I remembered that I was alive and finally, when I remembered that I had taken a drug - I remember thinking that I would never again be afraid of... well... anything!!! - as I had just experienced and survived something more terrifying than anything my normal waking mind could ever conjure up.
When trying to describe the nature of DMT to someone who has no frame of reference, I tend to resort to comparing it to "death" (except that that I have never been consciously aware of being dead before - outside if psychedelically induced near death experiences.). I guess it's more like saying to the person who is considering doing DMT, that you should prepare yourself for the reality that the absoluteness of the DMT experience could be compared to preparing yourself for the absoluteness of dying - but with the fortunate side effect of knowing that you would in fact, come back to life again) .
([ Only on Bluelight could I write in a sentence like "I have never been consciously aware of being dead before " - and be completely serious...)]
SO
why would anyone want to do thins thing again???
Well - as Shamen we know why by default - but knowledge and experience are not the only reasons. I have found that approximately one out of three DMT experiences to be as Ecstatic and wonderful as their horrific counterparts.
I can't bring myself to quantify DMT experiences as being 'good' or 'bad'. I find it seldom to be a 'comfortable' experience - I find it quite often to be a 'painful' experience - even the most wondrous DMT insights can be exquisitely uncomfortable.
I would enjoy to share some of the actual experiences. I know I have written up a few of them (but they are still in the original draft format). As I came to know DMT - having repeated it a total of about 50 times - some of these at very low doses, and only about 15 of them being full blown - I came to know the realm - and I find that it is easier to describe my experiences if I start at the beginning, and then use my previous writings as reference points for the newer ones.
I must - in fact - do this - so I will stop writing DMT thoughts in here,as this is really a new topic - deserving of a thread of its own. Captain H - I hope that you don't mind me bringing my response to your PM out into the open forum. I'd rather share the thoughts that try to repeat them in public. I will bring a few more of them, when I respond.
TMP